Ali91 Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) Lomas hating is ridiculous. He did a great job for us and this witch hunt against him is just silly to be honest. ETA: But of course Sir Tommy is the king and >>> Lomas. Edited May 21, 2014 by Ali91 garydavidson, auld reekie saint, andrew and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Brains behind Lomas imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajs Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 I too believe that Wright is better than Lomas, but Wright has just managed the club to its best ever season, Lomas was still an excellent manager for us and was the man who appointed Wright to Assistant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 There is no doubt that Lomas had many good qualities, but he also had many bad ones. He was also not that nice a person (I found). He wasn't evil or anything like that, just a bit of a whinging sod The difference with Tommy is that he seems a really genuine, likeable guy, and his qualities far outweigh his faults Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templar Saint Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 The bottom line is.................................. There is only one manager (so far) that has led us to a National Cup Victory. (For clarity the challenge cup is not being counted, although that is something even the the the and Tic have not won but Saints have). So Mr Lomas perhaps Mr Wright was and is superior in management than you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 You could talk about it all day and come to different conclusions. There is no doubt that Lomas did very well for us and signed some great players. Tommy did superbly well to keep and build on that squad and get us our first ever national trophy. Lomas may have said some stupid things but he did a cracking job at Saints. Tommy Wright has done better than any manager, does that make him any better than those gone before? That depends on your perception of what makes a great manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Never met the guy, but his interviews were just like so many generic managers - whingey and full if negativity. Maybe he was different away from the cameras though, so it's not a fair way to judge. Tommy is the best manager we've had at dealing with the media. Sometimes I wonder what it's like from the other side of the camera. Football clubs are, by their nature, quite insular. Everyone in the team and management and club knows what's going on, and everyone outwith doesn't. The media is our window into that, and to understand that interface between fans and club is very difficult in my opinion. You aren't talking to a camera, you are talking to thousands of people who are trying to glean more than you can or want to tell them. Lomas was shit at it. Doesn't mean he wasn't a good manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthandproud Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 What's the criteria for what we are basing Lomas as a "manager" on? Is it purely results on the pitch if it is then he's a great manager. Is it ermmm ehhh off field antics, well he was great at those too but not in a good way. I would rather have a less successful manager anyday over a complete arse, just so happens we have a really decent bloke and a great on the field manager rolled into one. Well he's decent this now unless things go wrong, then i may change my mind (football fans prerogative) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleveland-Saint Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 You could talk about it all day and come to different conclusions. There is no doubt that Lomas did very well for us and signed some great players. Tommy did superbly well to keep and build on that squad and get us our first ever national trophy. Lomas may have said some stupid things but he did a cracking job at Saints. Tommy Wright has done better than any manager, does that make him any better than those gone before? That depends on your perception of what makes a great manager. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I agree with this by the way, my statements wasn't about his talent as a manager and bringing Tommy in etc, purely the timing of his message and where he is with his career right now. His lack of any communication with Tommy or Saints after he left, no good luck message, then this after we win, questioned his sincerity to me thats all. I hope I'm wrong though. garydavidson and XxLeahSaintxX 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Rave Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Steve Lomas wanted St Johnstone to do well so Steve Lomas looked good. He would have released or put May out on loan again. He wanted proven journeymen that would get results. Tommy Wright wants St Johnstone to do well and work with the chairman on his vision of the way forward for St Johnstone. Tommy Wright won't whore himself around for his next payday, or stepping stone. Tommy Wright brought May back, played him and trusted him. Expect more Academy players to break through, to be sold on when the time and money is right. I don't hate Lomas, but he was interested in being here short term, and selfish. Wright likes it here, and wants to stay here. That alone makes him better in my book Jad, Denzil, andy rhodes fancy watch and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Is the book on Amazon? What's it called? The Wright Stuff Rock On, Tommy. Twenty Shades of May. I'll fetch ma jacket. t.mcneil99, uphallsaint and SaintinReading 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunkeldneil Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 That made me chuckle abernethy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Saints Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Saint Tommy if you don't mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Lomas was at our table last POTY. He was decent with us and gave us his full attention. He had a good season on the park, bad one off it (allegedly) and wasn't good at talking us up in the media. I wish him well. SundayGirl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Hope the Timothy's don't come calling for him :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhq Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Hope the Timothy's don't come calling for him :-) They won't - ability as a manager is not top of their priorities for there position of erm manager auld reekie saint and dave mc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 TW has never proved his ability to complain about referees to the point of sounding like a toddler with no sweeties. Never work out. Jad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE LARK SAINT Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Hope the Timothy's don't come calling for him :-) They wont-Larson!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) The bookies have stopped taking bets on Henrik coming apparently Edited May 22, 2014 by dave mc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Still would get him tied down as soon as Possible His CV looks very Positive for a first year Manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byebyedundee Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Steve Lomas wanted St Johnstone to do well so Steve Lomas looked good. He would have released or put May out on loan again. He wanted proven journeymen that would get results. Tommy Wright wants St Johnstone to do well and work with the chairman on his vision of the way forward for St Johnstone. Tommy Wright won't whore himself around for his next payday, or stepping stone. Tommy Wright brought May back, played him and trusted him. Expect more Academy players to break through, to be sold on when the time and money is right. I don't hate Lomas, but he was interested in being here short term, and selfish. Wright likes it here, and wants to stay here. That alone makes him better in my book BEST BY FAR STJOHNSTONE MANAGER>..... WHY BECAUSE IF IT WASNT FOR HIM THERED BE NO TOMMY WRIGHT AND I BELIEVE IF HE STAYED WE MAY HAVE WON THE CUP ALSO>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastered Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 I still have mixed views of Lomas. On the plus side: the team did very well, he created a good side, he bought in TW, he showed enthusiasm and support for his players. On the negative side: His public support of Rangers during their downfall stank and p!ssed off many Saiints supporters, his attitude to playing in Europe stank before the Turkey trip, his public statements about budgets stank, his continuing comments about over-achieving and talking down the teams potential stank, and none of us were left in any doubt that his first priority was Steve Lomas and moving back south. He just didn't get the way that the club works or understand those who supported the club. He didn't know when to keep his mouth shut. Moving to Millwall just showed that he leaned nothing about understanding supporters. There was no way that an ex-West Ham man would win over that bunch. TW is enthusiastic about Europe, knows no limits on what can be achieved, knows how the club works and embraces it, keeps supporters on his side, puts the club first, doesn't drool over Sevco, and his team does even better. Steve Lomas - Watch and learn. XxLeahSaintxX, 55saint, croc and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 They wont-Larson!! Steve Kean in the frame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastered Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 I got round to watching the entire cup coverage on the BBC iplayer before it disappeared and heard the comments about Lomas (no doubt already mentioned on the forum) beginning to 'lose the dressing room' , and also that May would not be in the team if he was still the manager as he just didn't rate him. A stark contrast to TW in both respects. I would like to know what Lomas now thinks of Stevie May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denzil Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 I got round to watching the entire cup coverage on the BBC iplayer before it disappeared and heard the comments about Lomas (no doubt already mentioned on the forum) beginning to 'lose the dressing room' , and also that May would not be in the team if he was still the manager as he just didn't rate him. A stark contrast to TW in both respects. I would like to know what Lomas now thinks of Stevie May. I'd guess he'd say "Who the **** is Stevie May?" sjfc99 and Plastered 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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