MrBored Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 For me playing against the likes of Hamilton, we have to go two up front. So Morgan should get a start and lets see what he can do. From last night you would expect Wotherspoon to be back in and that will probably mean O'Halloran or Croft drop out....I suspect it will be Croft. Brown will be back instead of Caddis and I'd like to see Morgan in instead of McDonald, but that will never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali91 Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Played properly the 4-5-1 can be just as offensive as a 4-4-2. I don't understand the clamour for 2 up front against the lesser lights, if you don't win the midfield battle you aren't going to create chances. 541ntees 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 The 4-5-1 is working well, no need to change it. Mannus Mackay Ando Scobbie Easton Brown Millar Spoony Macdonald O'Halloran Macca Thought Caddis played well last night, but Brown looks a cut above and deserves his place back. Not really fussed which two start out of O'Halloran, Spoony and FBLC as all three will have good days and bad days. Three points and a braw day out. COYS. Wrong decision by Tommy taking Liam off but maybe im biased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Played properly the 4-5-1 can be just as offensive as a 4-4-2. I don't understand the clamour for 2 up front against the lesser lights, if you don't win the midfield battle you aren't going to create chances. It is more the way that we get the ball to MacLean, recently it hasn't been a close pass to him so he is all alone and very restricted with what he can do. For me that is where the need for two up top comes from. If we play a 451 with short passes into MacLean then we are far more effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali91 Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Wrong decision by Tommy taking Liam off but maybe im biased. I thought he must have picked up an injury or something as he was getting lots of joy down the byeline and looked dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Drummonds Perm Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 It is more the way that we get the ball to MacLean, recently it hasn't been a close pass to him so he is all alone and very restricted with what he can do. For me that is where the need for two up top comes from. If we play a 451 with short passes into MacLean then we are far more effective. Maybe Wright will change it with Mclean just behind Morgan or vice versa. Similar to the May partnership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Good chance to bounce right back after the unpleasantness of last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Col Kojak Slaphead II Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) I think it's time people removed the 'Caddis tinted glasses' here he was woeful last night, far too timid in everything he does, he simply does not have the required confidence to be a player at this level. On the few occasions he had the ball at feet last night, all too often he was caught in posession or produced a poor pass, one time he broke into the box he didn't have a clue what he was going to do with the ball, in the end the move broke down. Time and time again this happens. In my opinion, and as harsh as it may be, he is not good enough and wont ever be deemed good enough to have a future with Saints in the SPL. Championship level player at best unfortunately. Edited August 14, 2014 by Lt. Col Kojak Slaphead II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Played properly the 4-5-1 can be just as offensive as a 4-4-2. I don't understand the clamour for 2 up front against the lesser lights, if you don't win the midfield battle you aren't going to create chances.We have to get someone closer to McLean though. I think TW tries that Caddis & Spoony played in the hole last night but they are not suited to it. I think Spoonys best position is wide left. Maybe O`Halloran in the hole behind Macca would be best as I don`t like him on left as he is not great at tracking back.On the other hand maybe Morgan in the hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.B.B:- Adz Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 We play much better football with MacKay Anderson, Scobbie and Easton. All comfortable on the ball and have the ability to take it for a wander when the midfielders are not showing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 I think it's time people removed the 'Caddis tinted glasses' here he was woeful last night, far too timid in everything he does, he simply does not have the required confidence to be a player at this level. On the few occasions he had the ball at feet last night, all too often he was caught in posession or produced a poor pass, one time he broke into the box he didn't have a clue what he was going to do with the ball, in the end the move broke down. Time and time again this happens. In my opinion, and as harsh as it may be, he is not good enough and wont ever be deemed good enough to have a future with Saints in the SPL. Championship level player at best unfortunately.Poor first 20mins but I thought be did well for the rest of the half. MrBored 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 I think it's time people removed the 'Caddis tinted glasses' here he was woeful last night, far too timid in everything he does, he simply does not have the required confidence to be a player at this level. On the few occasions he had the ball at feet last night, all too often he was caught in posession or produced a poor pass, one time he broke into the box he didn't have a clue what he was going to do with the ball, in the end the move broke down. Time and time again this happens. In my opinion, and as harsh as it may be, he is not good enough and wont ever be deemed good enough to have a future with Saints in the SPL. Championship level player at best unfortunately. Good job Tommy has more sense than you. Pelosi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Col Kojak Slaphead II Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Good job Tommy has more sense than you. We will revisit this comment in a few months time when either Caddis has once again been loaned out to a championship club or spends the majority of his time in the stand. I've got nothing personal against the lad, he works hard, he tries his best, but for me he just isn't quite up to the required standard. What is his best position? is he a winger? (he can't cross, he rarely beats a man, isn't blessed with blistering pace) is he a centre midfielder? (his passing isn't great, his decision making is weak, he is not a great tackler). I just can't see where he fits into the team on a consistent basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 We will revisit this comment in a few months time when either Caddis has once again been loaned out to a championship club or spends the majority of his time in the stand. I've got nothing personal against the lad, he works hard, he tries his best, but for me he just isn't quite up to the required standard. What is his best position? is he a winger? (he can't cross, he rarely beats a man, isn't blessed with blistering pace) is he a centre midfielder? (his passing isn't great, his decision making is weak, he is not a great tackler). I just can't see where he fits into the team on a consistent basis. Thats your opinion , will wait 2/3 months as you say , I am confident Tommy will keep playing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Col Kojak Slaphead II Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Thats your opinion , will wait 2/3 months as you say , I am confident Tommy will keep playing him. Answer me this, is he a better option across the midfield than any of the current Squad? Miller, MacDonald, Spoony, Croft, O'Halloran, Brown, Davidson If all these guys are fit, do you see Caddis starting ahead of them? and I will pre-empt the point you will probably make about him starting last night, but that was purely down to circumstances as Tommy deemed it necessary to give Spoony and Brown a rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 I think Caddis is the weakest midfield option when everyone is available, but I wouldn't write him off yet. He's definitely got his uses. If anything does hold him back, it's the fact that he doesn't really have a position. We've seen him at right back, right wing, central midfield, playing just in behind the striker...bearing in mind he's probably only played around 10 matches, that's a lot of moving around. He actually reminds me a bit of Ryan Stevenson whilst he was here. He looks like a footballer, we just can't quite pin down where to play him. Lt. Col Kojak Slaphead II 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patsy Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 I thought caddis was awful for first 20 mins he gave the ball away countless times on the edge of our box but I thought he grew into the game and I was surprised he was taken off. Also was o'halloran injured? If not can't believe TW took him off. There was a few boos I heard about that decision SundayGirl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Col Kojak Slaphead II Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 I thought caddis was awful for first 20 mins he gave the ball away countless times on the edge of our box but I thought he grew into the game and I was surprised he was taken off. Also was o'halloran injured? If not can't believe TW took him off. There was a few boos I heard about that decision Unsure about O'Halloran, I think he may have taken a knock. He came into the Muirton after the game and did appear to be slightly limping so i'd imagine it was a pre-cautionary move to take him off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.B.B:- Adz Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Lee Croft will find himself in the stand more than Caddis if he doesn't buck up his ideas. dave mc and gingermunkie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byebyedundee Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 I'd start like this (in the circumstance of Mackay being unavailable) - Mannus Miller - Anderson - Wright - Easton Wotherspoon - Brown - Millar - O'Halloran MacLean Morgan Yes back to 442..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byebyedundee Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Lee Croft will find himself in the stand more than Caddis if he doesn't buck up his ideas. Dont understand .... watched the game and thought he was excellent till the penalty aginst us.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajs Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 If we appeal MacKays suspension before Saturday I'm assuming he would be available against Accies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss75990 Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 If we appeal MacKays suspension before Saturday I'm assuming he would be available against Accies? I think so but might risk him missing the aberdeen game if it is refused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 I'd start like this (in the circumstance of Mackay being unavailable) - Mannus Miller - Anderson - Wright - Easton Wotherspoon - Brown - Millar - O'Halloran MacLean Morgan Agree on this, just wonder where muzz fits in....ahead of Brown when fully fit?? Thought Morgan looked pretty good on his debut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) I think so but might risk him missing the aberdeen game if it is refused Don't worry. Any right thinking and impartial football authority will rescind Cap'n Dave's red card. Nae chance then Edited August 14, 2014 by rik2304 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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