slf Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 Yeah its not difficult to engage with fans these days and the club should be doing a whole lot more. Chris Millars video's when we were in Europe were fantastic and i think a weekly vlog/snapchat sort of thing would go down well with the fans. do you expect this all for free ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 do you expect this all for free ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sconesjfc Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 do you expect this all for free ? Yes..its not difficult and it costs them f... all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 do yos xpect this all for free ? Yes, Its called engaging with your customer. Kevin James Is On Stilts and R.B.B:- Adz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 Yes, Its called engaging with your customer. First time I have heard football supporters being called a customer . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 Yes..its not difficult and it costs them f... all Well why don't you volunteer for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sconesjfc Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 Well why don't you volunteer for free. Id imagine fans want footage of goings on backstage, training clips, player interviews, injury updates etc. nothing mental. As has been said before, the club should be doing more to reqch out to our small support and only those who are employed by Saints can do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 Id imagine fans want footage of goings on backstage, training clips, player interviews, injury updates etc. nothing mental. As has been said before, the club should be doing more to reqch out to our small support and only those who are employed by Saints can do that. I can agree with that so Why don't you volunteer then .no use moaning on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 I can agree with that so Why don't you volunteer then .no use moaning on here. Why should people work for nothing? Saints are a wealthy company with a significant turnover. People aren't asking the earth by expecting them to engage with their supporters (who are, after all, their customers). SaintSam1884 and Kevin James Is On Stilts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 Why should people work for nothing? Saints are a wealthy company with a significant turnover. People aren't asking the earth by expecting them to engage with their supporters (who are, after all, their customers). If yer expectations are not being met then do something about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 If yer expectations are not being met then do something about it. I don't get your logic with this. If you go into a shop or restaurant and your expectations aren't met, do you volunteer to work there for free? SaintSam1884, Highland Saintee, Mr Dennis Wise and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 I don't get your logic with this. If you go into a shop or restaurant and your expectations aren't met, do you volunteer to work there for free? Do something about if yer not happy . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted July 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 We've a full-time media officer. However, this isn't reflected in the actual output. fazman1977 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 We've a full-time media officer. However, this isn't reflected in the actual output. Make a complaint and outline your grievances . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 Do something about if yer not happy . It's not my job to do anything about a professional football club's media output. Incidentally, I haven't said I'm not happy. I just don't get all this "if you don't like it, do it yourself" stuff - I don't think it make any sense. If I'm not happy about the way a Saints player plays, I can't just volunteer to play myself instead. SaintSam1884 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 It's not my job to do anything about a professional football club's media output. Incidentally, I haven't said I'm not happy. I just don't get all this "if you don't like it, do it yourself" stuff - I don't think it make any sense. If I'm not happy about the way a Saints player plays, I can't just volunteer to play myself instead. I think Ross made it clear last night that the club are dependent on a great number of volunteers to help with the media output. We all know saints don't have the financial capabilities to employ the number of staff that they probably require , but I wonder if the staff we do have are being spread too thinly. I wonder what other duties Ross has other than media relations. I also don't know how many staff some other club's have working on this side of things but I suspect it is more than 1. Blue heaven do you know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul N Shark Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 I think Ross made it clear last night that the club are dependent on a great number of volunteers to help with the media output. We all know saints don't have the financial capabilities to employ the number of staff that they probably require , but I wonder if the staff we do have are being spread too thinly. I wonder what other duties Ross has other than media relations. I also don't know how many staff some other club's have working on this side of things but I suspect it is more than 1. Blue heaven do you know? That's why Saints are in the Black and most others clubs are up there necks in debt. However, The club website is a bag of spanners and does need a new look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
541ntees Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 Id imagine fans want footage of goings on backstage, training clips, player interviews, injury updates etc. nothing mental. As has been said before, the club should be doing more to reqch out to our small support and only those who are employed by Saints can do that. apart from a video of danny swanson doing keepy uppies at stirling saints have pretty much provided all your needs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldPoster Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) Well why don't you volunteer for free. I've offered to give my time and experiance up and nobody was interested And lets be honest they could easily hire someone to do this - give them a phone/laptop and they can do all social media Edited July 6, 2016 by saint_markperth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 It's not my job to do anything about a professional football club's media output. Incidentally, I haven't said I'm not happy. I just don't get all this "if you don't like it, do it yourself" stuff - I don't think it make any sense. If I'm not happy about the way a Saints player plays, I can't just volunteer to play myself instead. well what are you moaning about ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ScottMann Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 Saints just need one proper marketing person to sort themselves out. Do their job properly and they'd soon pay for themselves. It's not that we can't afford to employ one...it's 2016 and we can't afford not to employ one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 Saints just need one proper marketing person to sort themselves out. Do their job properly and they'd soon pay for themselves. It's not that we can't afford to employ one...it's 2016 and we can't afford not to employ one. Not arguing with you here but do you think it would lead to an increase in attendances or revenue? Engagement may be one thing but the club is always thinking of £. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 well what are you moaning about ? I wasn't "moaning" about anything relating to the club's media output. I was disagreeing with your view that anyone who is ever dissatisfied with anything should volunteer to work for free to fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldPoster Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 Not arguing with you here but do you think it would lead to an increase in attendances or revenue? Engagement may be one thing but the club is always thinking of £. Nowadays Marketing people have sales/conversion targets, when i am designing implimentations at the moment each marking campaign has a cost against it and a ROI % that it needs to meet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 If yer expectations are not being met then do something about it. If it was a shop or restaurant I would not go back but with my football club that is not an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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