chips Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Interesting little piece written by a Killie fan on Pie and Bovril,i dont follow european football so no idea how spot on this is... I've had the chance to have a proper look at it, and here's what I think the situation is. 60 of the 66 teams for the QR2 draw have been locked in. There are 6 spaces still up for grabs. The top 33 teams will be seeded. Of the 60 who are already in place, St Johnstone are currently ranked 30th. St Johnstone will be seeded if at least 3 of the remaining 6 clubs who qualify have a coefficient lower than 6.080. The spots which are still to be decided are as follows: Switzerland - 1 spot Switzerland's lowest ranked qualifier will enter QR2. This spot will be decided by the outcome of the Swiss Cup final next Sunday between Basel and Sion. If Basel win the cup, then St Johnstone's old pals, 5th placed Luzern, will enter QR2. Their coefficient is 9.875. If Sion win the cup, then 4th placed FC Thun will enter QR2. Their coefficient is 10.375. In other words, whichever of these sides end up in QR2 will be ranked above St Johnstone and will be seeded. Greece - 1 spot Greece's lowest ranked qualifier will enter QR2. This spot will be decided by the outcome of their European play-off group - whoever finishes 4th (and bottom) in the group will enter this round. With 2 matches remaining (on Thursday and Monday), three clubs could still qualify: Asteras Tripoli are currently 2nd on 6 points. Their coefficient is 13.380. PAOK are currently 3rd on 5 points. Their coefficient is 40.880. Atromitos are currently 4th on 4 points. Their coefficient is 10.380. Again, this means that whichever Greek side ends up in QR2 will be seeded above St Johnstone. Austria - 1 spot Austria's lowest ranked side will enter QR2. This will be decided by the Austrian Cup final on Wednesday between Red Bull Salzburg and Austria Vienna. If Red Bull Salzburg win the cup, then 5th placed Wolfsberger AC will enter QR2. Their coefficient is 5.135. If Austria Vienna win the cup, then 4th placed Sturm Graz will enter QR2. Their coefficient is 9.135. St Johnstone therefore obviously want Red Bull Salzburg to win the cup, because Saints would be ranked ahead of Wolfsberger AC. Poland - 3 spots This is by far the most complex country remaining. Poland's top ranked side will enter QR2, while their 2nd and 3rd ranked sides will enter QR1, but will be seeded in QR1 and will therefore also take up a place in the QR2 draw. That means that Poland still have 3 places in total which affect St Johnstone's seeding. These will go to the clubs finishing 2nd, 3rd and 4th in the Polish league. There are 2 matches remaining in the league, which will be played on Wednesday and Saturday. 7 clubs can still qualify for the Europa League: Lech Poznan are currently top of the league with 39 points. Their coefficient is 17.300. Legia Warsaw are currently 2nd with 38 points. Their coefficient is 24.800. Jagiellonia Bialystok are currently 3rd with 35 points. Their coefficient is 5.550. Slask Wroclaw are currently 4th with 29 points. Their coefficient is 8.800. Lechia Gdansk are currently 5th with 28 points. Their coefficient is 4.300. Wisla Krakow are currently 6th with 27 points. Their coefficient is 13.300. Gornik Zabrze are currently 7th with 26 points. Their coefficient is 4.300. Lech Poznan, Legia Warsaw and Jagiellonia Bialystok are all guaranteed a spot in Europe for next season. One of them will win the league and qualify for the Champions League, while the other two will end up in the Europa League. Therefore at least one of Lech Poznan or Legia Warsaw will be in the Europa League QR2 draw and will be ranked above St Johnstone. St Johnstone are hoping that Jagiellonia don't win the league, and that either Lechia Gdansk or Gornik Zabrze finish 4th. Summary Three sides are guaranteed to be ranked above St Johnstone - one from Switzerland, one from Greece and one from Poland. For St Johnstone to be seeded in QR2, they need each of the other three spots to be taken by sides ranked below them. That means they need the following outcomes: Red Bull Salzburg beat Austria Vienna in the Austrian Cup final. Jagiellonia Bialystok don't win the Polish league (and therefore finish 2nd or 3rd). Lechia Gdansk or Gornik Zabrze finish 4th in Poland. Jiangsu Sainty, blueheaven, Oldermoresensiblepack and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Blimey, that's an impressive piece of research! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiangsu Sainty Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 (edited) My Polish mate figures Jagiellonia Bialystok will categorically not win the league so that is 1/3 in the bank. Gornik have tough fixtures so probably won't make it up to 4th, but Lechia have a slight chance although also tough fixtures (2 games left v 2nd and v 3rd). I'm not too optimistic sadly Edited June 2, 2015 by Jiangsu Sainty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David123 Posted June 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 If we're not seeded in round 2, we could draw Basel or west ham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhq Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Or luzern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Bring it on who ever they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 If we're not seeded in round 2, we could draw Basel or west ham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Saintee Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 I'm pretty sure the Courier says that our seeding is confirmed.... Maybe I'm wrong. I was reading it in the hair dressers panicking that the woman who's face looks like a cats bum hole was going to cut my hair or the hot burd..... Maryburghsaint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiangsu Sainty Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 I'm pretty sure the Courier says that our seeding is confirmed.... Maybe I'm wrong. I was reading it in the hair dressers panicking that the woman who's face looks like a cats bum hole was going to cut my hair or the hot burd..... For 1st round, not second Second is looking v unlikely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noose76 Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 If we get Airbus Broughton then the game will be played at Bangor Town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethamsaintee Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 If we get Airbus Broughton then the game will be played at Bangor Town. Why is that? Stadia issues or some such? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noose76 Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Aye. They've got a poxy wee ground so I called their general manager yesterday and asked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethamsaintee Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Aye. They've got a poxy wee ground so I called their general manager yesterday and asked! Just done a wee Google. Runway right at the ground. Would have been perfect for a wee Charter from Scone Aerodrome! fazman1977 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noose76 Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 They've got retractable floodlights for that very reason! On the subject of seeding in Q2, what will be will be and there's many teams in the middle ground who are much of a muchness so I'll take our chances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejksjfc Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 The grounds of the Welsh teams would struggle to cope. I don't know if there is any prospect of moving to am bigger ground nearby. The Irish teams both North and South look good with nice grounds (though UCD might struggle to cope but plenty other grounds in Dublin if needed) Saints playing at the Aviva or Croke Park (unless they have reverted to their no "foreign" games stance) would be brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerthSeany Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Woudnt be the Aviva. It holds 50k. Would be daft having it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 The grounds of the Welsh teams would struggle to cope. I don't know if there is any prospect of moving to am bigger ground nearby. The Irish teams both North and South look good with nice grounds (though UCD might struggle to cope but plenty other grounds in Dublin if needed) Saints playing at the Aviva or Croke Park (unless they have reverted to their no "foreign" games stance) would be brilliant Not sure what would be so great about a stadium at less than 10% capacity Kevin James Is On Stilts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave H Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 See you all on 18th May 2016 in Basel! Put my holiday request into work today..think I'm first in the book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Paddy Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 The grounds of the Welsh teams would struggle to cope. I don't know if there is any prospect of moving to am bigger ground nearby. The Irish teams both North and South look good with nice grounds (though UCD might struggle to cope but plenty other grounds in Dublin if needed) Saints playing at the Aviva or Croke Park (unless they have reverted to their no "foreign" games stance) would be brilliant If it's ucd, certainly won't be aviva or corker. Probably tallaght stadium, 15 - 20 minutes away, possibly Richmond or rds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
541ntees Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 when i started following saints i never signed up for this. the ormond deal is great but having to save every yr to watch saints in europe? Mental! HOODLUM65 and Dave H 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejksjfc Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Yes sorry forgot to put smiley face on my post above I wasn't being entirely serious when I suggested The Aviva or Croke Park which is actually the 3rd largest stadium in Europe. Ireland or Wales would be good though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergiefootball Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 On the subject of travel to a fellow E U Country...a friend told me you don't need a passport only a driving license[both parts]..can anyone clarify this please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Drummonds Perm Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 On the subject of travel to a fellow E U Country...a friend told me you don't need a passport only a driving license[both parts]..can anyone clarify this please. Only if it's all ticket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Paddy Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 On the subject of travel to a fellow E U Country...a friend told me you don't need a passport only a driving license[both parts]..can anyone clarify this please. that's to get across the border. If you are flying, airlines can insist on a passport or specific id at time of booking and for access to cabin. Ryanair do not accept driving license I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint in the city Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 See you all on 18th May 2016 in Basel! Put my holiday request into work today..think I'm first in the book. Need to get Stevie back and give him the number 18 jersey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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