ex-montrosesaintee Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 There weren't too many options for Tommy. I would have gone with: Mannus Shaughnessy Anderson Wright Easton Caddis Brown Scobbie O'Halloran Sutton Kane Yup Havana Saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brogan Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Yup I think most of us would have gone for something like that unless there was a better option for Scobbie. In hindsight though, I'd have had McKay on from the start at the back in place of Anderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintj Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) Personally I don't see how that team is any better than the one Tommy picked. There's no width in it at all and the idea of starting a crucial European match with both Brown and Caddis in central midfield really wouldn't have filled me with confidence. Perhaps i should have explained a bit more. The idea was that it would be more of a midfield 3 with Scobbie sitting and Caddis and Brown getting forward with M O'H getting freedom to go wherever behind the front 2. Did we not have Brown and Caddis in the middle against Lucerne in 1 of the matches? Even this would do. M O'H Brown Caddis Scobbie Edited July 10, 2015 by saintj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.mcneil99 Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Surely it would have been more balanced to have had a back 4, a midfield 3 of scobbie brown and caddis and then having michael out right, kane or macca through the middle and sutton wide left. obviously sutton wouldnt have been able to do a lot, but playing a sort of wide target man ( lee mcculloch for scotland ) can be effective, and the way o'halloran was getting down the right would have had a few crosses to go at. It was worrying that kane was stuck wide left, where he struggled due to lack of pace/trickery and not strong enough when it came to feet, the problem was clearly the formation ended up a sort of 5-1-4 with brown sitting very deep and scobbie sitting more with the back line, it meant they had 40-50 yards of space with often one or two saints players to their 4/5 which will always outpass us, and was it a case of unfit players being able to close down, or a startling degree of too much respect being given to the opposition, if you stand off any player long enough they will make something happen. I dont understand the deal with caddis, surely he is being paid a senior player salary, and is signed on as part of the first team squad, there is no point in keeping him for the u20's league, you would have thought that being one of 2 centre mids fit then he has to play, if tommy cant trust him then why was he signed on? he is a recongnised centre mid, play him there, To compare it to scottish football as a whole, the best teams ( including the national team ) seem to be able to counter with a bit of pace, and a bit of decisiveness to create chances, we are an example of a well organised side who cannot make chances, and when that gets found out ( which it seems it may have been ) must be nearly impossible to fix overnight. We could still be playing now and nobody would look like being able to slip a pass in behind the full back or centre backs to create an opening, its pretty worrying viewing. still maybe its a blessing, kairat almaty would have royally humped us based on this. Al C 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintj Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 What happened to the minutes silence as well? That was bloody awful as well PauloPerth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Sutton on the wing PauloPerth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejksjfc Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) I don't think anyone actually deliberately knackered the silence, more a misunderstanding after the rather garbled tannoy announcement.It would have been better to put something in the programme and then just start the silence. Edited July 10, 2015 by ejksjfc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 what happened to the raffle ticket draw at half time too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babychunder Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Big disappointment. Was right in line in the East stand when that ball got pumped forward for their goal and their guy looked offside, French kunt never gave it, probably coz we laughed at him when he fell on his erse pre game. MoH was great, also thought Brown had a no bad game. Mannus looked at fault for the goal. Sutton and McLean both need to raise their game, Cummins looked ok in his short cameo. These guys were better than their ranking but we still should have put them out. This game was an even bigger let down than the one in Yerevan but at least my travel time for this one was six hours rather than sixteen. Dave Ferg, akuram and SaintJet 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJet Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Big disappointment. Was right in line in the East stand when that ball got pumped forward for their goal and their guy looked offside, French kunt never gave it, probably coz we laughed at him when he fell on his erse pre game. MoH was great, also thought Brown had a no bad game. Mannus looked at fault for the goal. Sutton and McLean both need to raise their game, Cummins looked ok in his short cameo. These guys were better than their ranking but we still should have put them out. This game was an even bigger let down than the one in Yerevan but at least my travel time for this one was six hours rather than sixteen. Good shout. Common sense sprinkled with the right amount of criticism about the performance: obviously you have a wee bit of a fitba heid and a grip of reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Center Half Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 just watched the visitors goal for the first time since it happened last night. not clear if off side or not but basic defending stay goal side of the attacking player especially if you are our Tam not blessed with the fastest turn of speed, but more than ever Mannus what the Phuque are you trying to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunblanemike Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Any news on Ando's injury? Quite a lump under they eye on a pic on the bbc website, and this as he was walking off the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBored Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Any news on Ando's injury? Quite a lump under they eye on a pic on the bbc website, and this as he was walking off the pitch. Cheekbone not broken. Should be fit for the start of the season ex-montrosesaintee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Glad he's not had a fracture, think he's got a challenge for his place from McKay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Just noticed someone else has made the same point on a different thread, but we were talking earlier today about the media coverage there would have been if celtic went into a European game with no Van Dijk, Denayer, Brown, Johansen, Armstrong, Griffiths and Armstrong. And yet we, with a far more limited squad, are meant to cope with our equivalent of that and cruise to victory. It's a bad result, a poor performance, but a bit of perspective is needed. I think we were all getting carried away with being European regulars, and thought that meant we'd stuff a team because we've never heard of them. I know I completely underrated them. That was our first home win in Europe since 1999, and but for one crazy mistake we probably would have gone through the tie. Not scoring away from home is massive. It's the reason aberdeen are still in the competition and we're oot!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Lethamite Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 On the plus side, last night was Saints' first home win in normal time in European competition since beating VPS Vaasa in 1999, so progress of a sort. Well, the straw was there to be clutched ........ 541ntees and Abernethy Saint 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croc Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) As Rab C Nesbitt says.! " i will tell ye this" you will have tae go a long way tae find a forum with more football managerial nouse than the we are perth forums .! Only if Saints get gubbed though.!LAUGH OUT LOUD Otherwise its "In Tommy we Trust".! Edited July 10, 2015 by croc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave H Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Still in shock, really feeling pretty depressed at this moment. How long will this take to fade? I do hope that not progressing makes us eager to kick the season of with a few wins and not be sluggish. Wish the Europa draw was regionalised at this stage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSam1884 Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Still in shock, really feeling pretty depressed at this moment. How long will this take to fade? I do hope that not progressing makes us eager to kick the season of with a few wins and not be sluggish. Wish the Europa draw was regionalised at this stage! I was fine after coming on here this morning and reading absolute nonsense from some absolute roasters. Made me feel so much better about everything. Keep things in perspective, we wouldn't have gone out if we had our first team available. That means we need more strength in depth. It's not the end of the world. dave mc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancientsaint Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 I was fine after coming on here this morning and reading absolute nonsense from some absolute roasters. Made me feel so much better about everything. Keep things in perspective, we wouldn't have gone out if we had our first team available. That means we need more strength in depth. It's not the end of the world. Does anyone know where "the end of the world " is ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Just noticed someone else has made the same point on a different thread, but we were talking earlier today about the media coverage there would have been if celtic went into a European game with no Van Dijk, Denayer, Brown, Johansen, Armstrong, Griffiths and Armstrong. And yet we, with a far more limited squad, are meant to cope with our equivalent of that and cruise to victory. It's a bad result, a poor performance, but a bit of perspective is needed. I think we were all getting carried away with being European regulars, and thought that meant we'd stuff a team because we've never heard of them. I know I completely underrated them. That was our first home win in Europe since 1999, and but for one crazy mistake we probably would have gone through the tie. Not scoring away from home is massive. It's the reason aberdeen are still in the competition and we're oot!! Not conceding at home is equally important, and that's what got the sheep through in the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich77 Posted July 10, 2015 Report Share Posted July 10, 2015 Does anyone know where "the end of the world " is ? If Saints had gone through they would have been playing there in the next round. Dave H and SaintSam1884 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Can we not do a Celtic & check that all their 7 new signings are registered, especially the 2 sub's that came on in injury time that I don't think the rrf added time for. MySpazz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MySpazz Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 Just watched the highlights...... brutal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David123 Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 There was more action in the highlights since they scored than there was in the rest of the match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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