RandomGuy Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 If hes going id rather he go tomorrow than after the Semi. Would save us the whole transfer circus and would give us a decent chance to replace him. He seems the type who'd quite happily put in a half arsed performance if he knew he was a goner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ghost of Jim Morton Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 If Tommy / Steve have any sense any contact from the the should be met with the we are concentrating on the 30 Th contact us after that.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This 100%. If he goes he goes. Footballers, good and bad, come and go. I would rather he went to a non Scottish based club, but the facts are simple, St.Johnstone as a club cannot survive , let alone flourish, if we do not move assets on for decent sums of money. If he goes to Sevco then so be it. As long as we get what our chairman thinks is good value AND the payment terms are solid ( COD if it's Sevco) then we should accept it. With a core support like we have, balancing the books and having a full time team for the foreseeable future can only be secured by selling players. The Broons have served us well and are hardly idiots when it comes to business. We have a well run financial stable club, we now have a Scottish Cup in our honour list, we have made Europe 4 seasons in a row , we have beaten some very decent European opposition and we are about to play yet ANOTHER cup semi. FFS guys get yer heads oot of yer arses. rammsteinally, Eduardo, Saline Saint and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 Feel sorry for Tommy, trying to plan a semi not knowing if your key player is available. However, he knew the score with Saints when he signed up. I hope he plays, and has his head in the game. Any replacement we got in before next weekend would likely be cup-tied anyway, surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranmere Saintee Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 JHQMy answer to you seems to have disappeared ? then a weird post from a moderator fellow about a threating posts? , so I do not know if I have overstepped the mark but I do apologise if I have upset you or any other one on here? must be the modern world ! If being asked to calm down is seen as a post about threatening behaviour then I think you do need to really calm down. Telling somebody to eff off is not acceptable behaviour and against Forum rules hence the post. Jiangsu Sainty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indicator Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 If, as seems likely, Moh's days at McDiarmid are numbered then I would hope that sensible negotiations with any club other than Sevco are proceeding quietly in the background.Should a satisfactory deal be agreed, one which will likely to have been conducted in a sensible manner without the daily grandiose statements by a discredited and clearly Sevco orientated Scottish media, then it should then be announced following the game v Hibs.The way that any perceived interest in a player by that club immediately leads to all sorts of underhand tactics, time and time again, beggars belief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 If MOH goes, which is seeming likely, then I hope it's soon.Unlike some who want to keep him till after the Hibs game on the 30th, which is understandable .... It therefore only gives St. Johnstone a couple of days to find a decent repacement for the rest of the season. It would make more sense to me to try and get someone sooner rather than panick buying at the 12th hour.I personally think St. Johnstone will triumph over Hibs without MOH in the team, so if its going to get done ... get it done quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indicator Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 For the new'ish contributors to this site, and any interested Saints negotiators currently involved in the MOH transfer saga. (although I'm sure you are already aware of the financial trials and tribulations of the Govan club).With a warning - this guy tells it how it is:https://johnjamessite.wordpress.com/2016/01/23/transfer-activity/ SaintJet, slambrother, Abernethy Saint and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 How about if we are giving him to Sevco at cut rate price,we get him back on loan til end of season as they are buying him for their push on Europe next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This 100%. If he goes he goes. Footballers, good and bad, come and go. I would rather he went to a non Scottish based club, but the facts are simple, St.Johnstone as a club cannot survive , let alone flourish, if we do not move assets on for decent sums of money. If he goes to Sevco then so be it. As long as we get what our chairman thinks is good value AND the payment terms are solid ( COD if it's Sevco) then we should accept it. With a core support like we have, balancing the books and having a full time team for the foreseeable future can only be secured by selling players. The Broons have served us well and are hardly idiots when it comes to business. We have a well run financial stable club, we now have a Scottish Cup in our honour list, we have made Europe 4 seasons in a row , we have beaten some very decent European opposition and we are about to play yet ANOTHER cup semi. FFS guys get yer heads oot of yer arses.One week wont make any difference, the build up to the Semi starts now and a bigger cut if we get to the final, Concentration should be on that not selling a player and the the distrupting it, get your head out your arse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ghost of Jim Morton Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 One week wont make any difference, the build up to the Semi starts now and a bigger cut if we get to the final, Concentration should be on that not selling a player and the the distrupting it, get your head out your arseYou have soooooooooo taken what I said as if I was speaking to you mate, when in fact, before I started, I said I agreed with your post 100% That's why there are wee arrow things pointing upwards to you post which i quoted. This is why I love WAP... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 You have soooooooooo taken what I said as if I was speaking to you mate, when in fact, before I started, I said I agreed with your post 100% That's why there are wee arrow things pointing upwards to you post which i quoted. This is why I love WAP...Teach me to read things Properly Ghostie The ghost of Jim Morton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Saints Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 I truly hope that if/when he goes it isn't to TFOD, I feel & this is a personal view, the money we would receive would be tainted. I don't know if this view is shared by all Saints fans but I would feel we as a club had sold out! I know £500000 is a lot of money to a club like ours but we would manage.I always feel proud to be a Saints fan because I think as a club we have integrity, something fairly unique in this game, it would be a shame to lose it so cheaply.... dunkeldneil, saintscotty, Seannachie and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJet Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 How about if we are giving him to Sevco at cut rate price,we get him back on loan til end of season as they are buying him for their push on Europe next season.Cagey. It's Sunday, I'm assuming you are back to work tomorrow. Slow down on the herb eh. The ghost of Jim Morton, dunkeldneil and Cagey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscotty Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 (edited) I truly hope that if/when he goes it isn't to TFOD, I feel & this is a personal view, the money we would receive would be tainted. I don't know if this view is shared by all Saints fans but I would feel we as a club had sold out! I know £500000 is a lot of money to a club like ours but we would manage.I always feel proud to be a Saints fan because I think as a club we have integrity, something fairly unique in this game, it would be a shame to lose it so cheaply....In an ideal world Steve Brown will tell Sevco to gtf and that MOH is not for sale in this transfer window. MOH then goes on to play the remainder of this season as he started it and puts himself in the shop window and attracts an offer in the summer from a decent club (one with money that isn't from a monopoly box). Edited January 24, 2016 by saintscotty SaintJet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJet Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 You have soooooooooo taken what I said as if I was speaking to you mate, when in fact, before I started, I said I agreed with your post 100% That's why there are wee arrow things pointing upwards to you post which i quoted. This is why I love WAP...Ghost, I like your posts and in the norm they are fairly cerebral. Everyone is getting exasperated by this fu@@ing nonsense.I'm with you on Broon, but the timing and the way the club are carrying on just now is driving us up the wall. Here's my message - Tell sevco to fu@@ off. MOH and his agent aren't happy - tough.What everyone on this board have failed to recognize is that next weeks game is a "game changer" for St.Johnstone. We are in the middle of a pretty serious slump- no wins since 5th December. The fixtures and postponements have conspired against us, whilst we are playing our cup tie next week there is a full league card and we are playing catch up. Can you imagine the negativity around the club if we lose next week? If we win this semi final it keeps everyone hungry at least until April. Lose and we better buckle up for a nervous few months. Lets keep MOH. The ghost of Jim Morton, fazman1977, Wendy Saints and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunkeldneil Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 Lets forget about this whole micheal o halloran saga, we have a huge game coming up that could shape our whole season and could even make history, lets all get behind the boys and help them nail these turkeys south inch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheYellowBox Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 If MOH goes, which is seeming likely, then I hope it's soon.Unlike some who want to keep him till after the Hibs game on the 30th, which is understandable .... It therefore only gives St. Johnstone a couple of days to find a decent repacement for the rest of the season. It would make more sense to me to try and get someone sooner rather than panick buying at the 12th hour.I personally think St. Johnstone will triumph over Hibs without MOH in the team, so if its going to get done ... get it done quickly.Sell him to Celtic for £500k and use £150k on Waghorn. MOH wouldn't get in Celtic starting 11, so unlikely to come back to haunt us.Waghorn totally untested at a higher level, but would make a decent squad player in a Liam Caddis kind of way and could come in and do a job when needed. Agree? Jiangsu Sainty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldermoresensiblepack Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 Sell him to Celtic for £500k and use £150k on Waghorn. MOH wouldn't get in Celtic starting 11, so unlikely to come back to haunt us.Waghorn totally untested at a higher level, but would make a decent squad player in a Liam Caddis kind of way and could come in and do a job when needed. Agree?No he's shite unless we were playing part timers every week. TheYellowBox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 (edited) Sell him to Celtic for £500k and use £150k on Waghorn. MOH wouldn't get in Celtic starting 11, so unlikely to come back to haunt us.Waghorn totally untested at a higher level, but would make a decent squad player in a Liam Caddis kind of way and could come in and do a job when needed. Agree?Yeah ok then, just forget the fact the he's played over 100 games for Leicester ... oh, and his Premiership debut for Sunderland just happened to be against Man Utd. Also capped at U-19 and U-21 level for England.But, yeah untested.Nugget. Edited January 24, 2016 by Saint Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheYellowBox Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 Yeah ok then, just forget the fact the he's played over 100 games for Leicester ... oh, and his Premiership debut for Sunderland just happened to be against Man Utd. Also capped at U-19 and U-21 level for England.But, yeah untested.Nugget.seem to know an awful lot about him for a saints fan?By your logic, Lynch must be world class as he played for Man U in the Champions league then? Mind him do you?Plenty of players who played in the premiership who were shocking. Jiangsu Sainty and SaintJet 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 seem to know an awful lot about him for a saints fan?By your logic, Lynch must be world class as he played for Man U in the Champions league then? Mind him do you?Plenty of players who played in the premiership who were shocking.To be fair, there is a thing called Google that is quite handy for bringing up stats to help disprove unsubstantiated rubbish, I also knew Waghorn had played at a higher level. Most FM fans would. In fact, he's spent his career at a higher level, in and around PL and Championship clubs and was very highly rated as a kid. Saint Scott 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 To be fair, there is a thing called Google that is quite handy for bringing up stats to help disprove unsubstantiated rubbish, I also knew Waghorn had played at a higher level. Most FM fans would. In fact, he's spent his career at a higher level, in and around PL and Championship clubs and was very highly rated as a kid.I was just about to post this .... although Wiki, not Google is where I got the stats from.I went there as I knew he had played at a higher level before, and just wanted to prove my theory. He just fell out of favour at Wigan, the reason Rangers got him as cheap as the did. He wont be there long, I predict he'll be gone within 18 months back down south, for a 7 figure sum (assuming Rangers are in the Prem by then) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheYellowBox Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 (edited) True, but Google would tell you that he only ever played 6 games in the premiership and has spent most of his career in the championship scoring 30 goals in 200 appearances, so he's just not that good then?So you reckon saints should be going in for him then? Waghorn plus £500k for MOH? Edited January 24, 2016 by TheYellowBox Jiangsu Sainty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 Yeah ok then, just forget the fact the he's played over 100 games for Leicester ... oh, and his Premiership debut for Sunderland just happened to be against Man Utd. Also capped at U-19 and U-21 level for England.But, yeah untested.Nugget.Took the bait. Jiangsu Sainty, Cleveland-Saint and TheYellowBox 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 I was just about to post this .... although Wiki, not Google is where I got the stats from.I went there as I knew he had played at a higher level before, and just wanted to prove my theory. He just fell out of favour at Wigan, the reason Rangers got him as cheap as the did. He wont be there long, I predict he'll be gone within 18 months back down south, for a 7 figure sum (assuming Rangers are in the Prem by then)"Rangers?" Do you mean Berwick Rangers, or the club you let die some years ago? Cleveland-Saint, fazman1977, Jiangsu Sainty and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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