RandomGuy Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Yeah if you have it. That would be interesting stats to review and to know for as long as it's a top 12 league setup and a split. http://www.statto.com/football/stats/scotland/premiership/2014-2015/table/2015-01-05 Theres a tab at the top right to select a season, then a tab at the top of the table to choose a particular date. Split usually occurs at the start of April, although you've sometimes to skip about a bit to get the exact one. Dave H 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 If you look at tables at the time of the split over previous seasons you can maybe gauge the "magic amount", same for the final points totals for teams in 10th.2014/15 - 6th place: 44pts, 10th place: 37pts2013/14 - 6th place: 48pts, 10th place: 31pts2012/13 - 6th place: 44pts, 10th place: 37pts2011/12 - 6th place: 48pts, 10th place: 32pts2010/11 - 6th place: 44pts, 10th place: 31pts We're currently on 32 points. 40 seems to be the target to beat the Play-Offs, while 50 guarantees top six. We've nine games left to play.Motherwell (H), Partick (A), Aberdeen (A), Partick (H), Ross County (H), Hearts (A), United (H), Killie (A) To me, we should be looking for 10-15 points from that. Which should be enough for the top half.LAUGH OUT LOUD this is Saints we are talking about , dont do things easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersaintee Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 I must admit that I'm worried about where our season is heading. I said from day one that I thought that survival would be a success this season but I really hoped that we'd be rebuilding rather than relying on the same, aging core of our team. Here's the table from this time last year. We were only 2 points better off with a game more played, but the big difference this year is that we're only 6 points above the play-off where we were 16 points clear at the same stage, albeit with an extra game played. PlWDLFAGDPts1Celtic241833481335572Aberdeen251735442123543Inverness CT251636372314514Dundee United241437483315455Hamilton Accies271251039354416Dundee2699838380367St Johnstone25104112227-5348Kilmarnock2595112632-6329Partick Thistle256712323202510St Mirren2653182143-221811Motherwell2553171849-311812Ross County2536162451-2715I agree with previous comments saying that Saturday is a must win for us - otherwise we could end up having to play Hibs 3 times this season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 It does show how well we were doing up to the stat of December. The fact that we have gained 2 points in 7 matches and yet are still only two points behind where we were at this time last season.... and bear in mind that last season finished as our second highest premier league points total in our history! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 It does show how well we were doing up to the stat of December. The fact that we have gained 2 points in 7 matches and yet are still only two points behind where we were at this time last season.... and bear in mind that last season finished as our second highest premier league points total in our history!and we were undefeated after the split, which will be very hard to repeat. However, if we can put a run of victories together, we can still cement 4th place before the split IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 I am afraid to say that at the moment I would be over the moon with a top 6 finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angus-saint253 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 We've just come off (hopefully) a horrific run of 7 league games without a win and the result is....... we could be fourth again by Saturday night, everyone calm down Dave H and ex-montrosesaintee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 dunkeldneil and Dave H 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersaintee Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 16th Feb 2014 - Hibs were a weekend win away from leap-frogging us into the top six and 9 points separated them from the play-off.., PlWDLFAGDPts1Celtic252230601248692Aberdeen251537362214483Motherwell24152738335474Dundee United251087433013385Inverness CT23115729218386St Johnstone24951031292327Hibernian2587102328-5318Kilmarnock2675143244-12269St Mirren2666142442-182410Ross County2564153045-152211Partick Thistle26410122543-182212Heart of Midlothian2656152244-226 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angus-saint253 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Great post! - clearly highlights that after 24 games this season we were 2 points better off than we were 2 years ago. Good progress, the future's bright! Seriously troops, enough doom and gloom. Bit of support for the boys and we'll be back to winning ways before long. Wendy Saints 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ghost of Jim Morton Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 I think that the "top six" aim is part of the problem. What I want is to win some games, I don't give a flying about the top six right now. Focus on winning the next game, not where we might or might not finish the season. PauloPerth and croc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Saints Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 I think we have been the victim of our own success ... Qualifying for Europe has been detrimental to our league progress. I feel players aren't given the time to recover from one season to the next.... Only a few weeks between end of the season & then Europa games. I hate to admit this, but I don't think qualifying for Europe is worth it! It affects us in the league, & one of the games was the equivalent of travelling to New York, costs the club money, & costs the players physically.I still want to finish as high up as possible tho' ⚽️ :-) croc and Shaggy Jenkins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croc Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 I think we have been the victim of our own success ... Qualifying for Europe has been detrimental to our league progress. I feel players aren't given the time to recover from one season to the next.... Only a few weeks between end of the season & then Europa games. I hate to admit this, but I don't think qualifying for Europe is worth it! It affects us in the league, & one of the games was the equivalent of travelling to New York, costs the club money, & costs the players physically.I still want to finish as high up as possible tho' ⚽️ :-)Finishing"Top League" will do for me.! Wendy Saints and dunkeldneil 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunkeldneil Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Finishing"Top League" will do for me.!lets do a leicester!!!!"" croc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croc Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 lets do a leicester!!!!""Glad I stuck a tenner on them at the start of the season.!LAUGH OUT LOUD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunkeldneil Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Glad I stuck a tenner on them at the start of the season.!LAUGH OUT LOUDdid you wow what odds did you get i read it was 5000 - 1... i put a tenner on about a month ago got 7 - 1 still a few games to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croc Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 did you wow what odds did you get i read it was 5000 - 1... i put a tenner on about a month ago got 7 - 1 still a few games to go Sorry I meant Lester Piggott.! shows ye how much I ken aboot gambling.!LAUGH OUT LOUD dunkeldneil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunkeldneil Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Sorry I meant Lester Piggott.! shows ye how much I ken aboot gambling.!LAUGH OUT LOUD Haha well 5000 - 1 would be very nice indeed, goes to show if you have a good manager and team spirit croc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croc Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Haha well 5000 - 1 would be very nice indeed, goes to show if you have a good manager and team spirit I read that last week.and wished I was a gambler.! No doubt there will be a few optimistic fans whos bums will be twitching.! Biggest bet I have ever made was a £100 at even money for us to win the Challenge cup against Dunfermline. After twenty minutes I was wishing I had put more on.! Last five minutes I said nae mair gambing on Saints.! dunkeldneil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shibbydoo Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Motherwell winning yaaaaaaay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akuram Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Motherwell have just taken the lead which is the last thing we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 It means Dundee Utd are all but down. Pleasing. When do we play them? Can we relegate them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shibbydoo Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 6 points separating 4th from 11th as it stands - wow!im happy with 10th this year for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 It means Dundee Utd are all but down. Pleasing. When do we play them? Can we relegate them? 2nd of April. Matchday 31. Think itll be just too early for relegation and theyd need to be 21 or more points adrift after that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Aye let's finish bottom 6 to relegate them. Give us something exciting to play for.... This is is a joke before someone takes my post literally. HOODLUM65, The ghost of Jim Morton and Dave H 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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