Tranmere Saintee Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Report on BBC Scotland has just stated that 66% of Scottish clubs now suffer from organised hooliganism.I either go to football with my eyes closed or Saints have been very lucky to so far avoid it if this nonsense is creeping back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south inch Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 From what I've read so far this is a typical BBC Scotland Report - long on words and vague statements, short on evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Utter nonsense. Why does the football establishment in Scotland hate its own customers so much? MySpazz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiangsu Sainty Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Whit? There is clearly a mentality amongst a large number of football fans that hooliganism and casuals are 'cool'. Saints are as bad for it as any, including some former/current posters.You can clearly see at any home game, no matter how small the opposition, a number of lads strolling about with patches they bought on ebay sewn onto the arms of their asda jumpers looking proud that old ladies are scared of them. The fact they mostly stick to posturing rather than the hooliganism of old is a source of comfort but shouldn't be one of complacency. The whole facial recognition idea is a farce due to costs, but I personally find the idea that all football fans are treated like criminals as a laughable fallacy perpetuated by morons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranmere Saintee Posted February 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 The brief bit I saw reckoned there were 28 clubs with known groups causing problems (i.e. pre-arranged fights miles from grounds and hours before games), 7 clubs with known individuals and 7 clubs who are free of trouble. The police guy being interviewed seemed rather embarrassed when admitting the incidents were very few and far between but there was no room for complacency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 What has young lads fighting miles away from a football stadium got to do with football? We used to call that school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) Whit? There is clearly a mentality amongst a large number of football fans that hooliganism and casuals are 'cool'. Saints are as bad for it as any, including some former/current posters.You can clearly see at any home game, no matter how small the opposition, a number of lads strolling about with patches they bought on ebay sewn onto the arms of their asda jumpers looking proud that old ladies are scared of them. The fact they mostly stick to posturing rather than the hooliganism of old is a source of comfort but shouldn't be one of complacency. The whole facial recognition idea is a farce due to costs, but I personally find the idea that all football fans are treated like criminals as a laughable fallacy perpetuated by moronsI am in agreement with a lot of your comment, though I seemed to have missed the lads with the Asda jumpers.Your last paragraph however had me thinking about the times I watched Pompey when I lived in Hampshire.O.K. There was bother with rival fans, however the Polis DID treat ordinary fans like criminals.I realise this was many years ago, but there's nothing to say it couldn't happen here, after Police Scotlands track record of late. Edited February 10, 2016 by HOODLUM65 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Rant mode engaged. If a few young lads have a fight, and then in the next week, each of them goes to the toilet, does Scotland have a problem with toilet hooliganism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Rant mode engaged. If a few young lads have a fight, and then in the next week, each of them goes to the toilet, does Scotland have a problem with toilet hooliganism? I suppose it is connected with football as they connect themselves to whatever team they support, not to whether their toilet is white or green or whatever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
541ntees Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 young lads dressing in burberry doesnt make them organised hooligans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 If it's happening miles away from football stadiums, I think it's a bit of a leap to describe it as "football clubs suffering from organised hooliganism".Have to say I've never, ever encountered anything I'd describe as hooliganism, in close to 30 years of going to matches. That includes games up and down the divisions in both Scotland and England, international games, a couple of World Cups and a good few games abroad. I guess it does actually exist somewhere, but I'm inclined to think most of it has bugger all to do with actual football supporters.Closest I've come to it would be one time when I saw a drunk Stoke fan attempt to fight a horse. Not sure that counts as "organised" though. Unless it was pre-arranged with the horse over the internet. Tranmere Saintee and 541ntees 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 i want to watch .when is the next organised meet ? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babychunder Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Have to say I've never, ever encountered anything I'd describe as hooliganism, in close to 30 years of going to matches. That includes games up and down the divisions in both Scotland and England, international games, a couple of World Cups and a good few games abroad. I guess it does actually exist somewhere, but I'm inclined to think most of it has bugger all to do with actual football supporters.I've seen plenty; at Saints games home and away, local matches in Aberdeen and Glasgow (when I lived there), and at internationals.The very worst after the last Scotland England game at Hampden in the Rous Cup. I thought the fan violence was bad, but the polis that day took no prisoners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Pompey will be at fratton on saturday seeing as theres no stjohnstone game. HOODLUM65 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 I've seen plenty; at Saints games home and away, local matches in Aberdeen and Glasgow (when I lived there), and at internationals.The very worst after the last Scotland England game at Hampden in the Rous Cup. I thought the fan violence was bad, but the polis that day took no prisoners.I was at that game. The England National Front type fans were all "we're gonna give them Scots wankers a doing" for weeks beforehand. The Glasgow polis took a few of the worst aside and gave them a well deserved doing. The trouble stopped, they never came back. Result. Spent 6 hours on a train with one of them the next day. The little fascist, who'd spent the night in the cells, never stopped shaking until he got over the border. Excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
541ntees Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 If it's happening miles away from football stadiums, I think it's a bit of a leap to describe it as "football clubs suffering from organised hooliganism".Have to say I've never, ever encountered anything I'd describe as hooliganism, in close to 30 years of going to matches. That includes games up and down the divisions in both Scotland and England, international games, a couple of World Cups and a good few games abroad. I guess it does actually exist somewhere, but I'm inclined to think most of it has bugger all to do with actual football supporters.Closest I've come to it would be one time when I saw a drunk Stoke fan attempt to fight a horse. Not sure that counts as "organised" though. Unless it was pre-arranged with the horse over the internet.my 1 incident involved a police horse too at Hampden . Standing in the train queue it whipped me right in the eyeball with its tail. #banthehorses blueheaven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelsinkiSaintee Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 No coincidence between this rise in hooliganism and the rise of the SNP, surely BBC Scotland managed to work that in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babychunder Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 my 1 incident involved a police horse too at Hampden . Standing in the train queue it whipped me right in the eyeball with its tail. #banthehorsesPolice horse stood on my mates foot when queuing up to get into Scotland v France at Hampden. Oh ya effin barstad he shouts, and the polis eventually nicked him for swearing. They left him cooking in a van until after the game had started then let him out so he could see the game. Foot turned out to be broken. 541ntees 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy rhodes fancy watch Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 By the vast majority of posts on here you boys wouldn't know what was happening until it's under your nose. St Johnstone are lucky, not had proper casuals since the early 90s although some have tried their best. Not likely to have any in the future either as it's jailbait material. Nothing to worry about at Saints although the cheap shot about asda jumpers is just stupidity by a moron poster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiangsu Sainty Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 By the vast majority of posts on here you boys wouldn't know what was happening until it's under your nose. St Johnstone are lucky, not had proper casuals since the early 90s although some have tried their best. Not likely to have any in the future either as it's jailbait material. Nothing to worry about at Saints although the cheap shot about asda jumpers is just stupidity by a moron poster.Aww diddums. I might have just been praising their financial nous in not wasting money on crap jumpers. Grow up you pathetic little weasel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy rhodes fancy watch Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Aww diddums. I might have just been praising their financial nous in not wasting money on crap jumpers. Grow up you pathetic little weaselpathetic little weasel? You really are a charmer. I'll be in the east stand,yellow seats, scoreboard end near the back,come say hi at next game please.I'll wear an asda jumper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiangsu Sainty Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 I'll wear an asda jumper.I can see how you may have found that specific aspect of my post offensive and apologise for just that section if it was taken in that way. I'd rather see someone wearing Asda than stone Island and was mocking the idea of pretending to wear expensive casuals uniforms rather than shopping at supermarkets itself. Stand by the rest though including my views on your reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 You could take him up on his offer and meet and talk face to face, I think i remember from another thread you sit in the East Stand quite near to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiangsu Sainty Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Short version - no need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranmere Saintee Posted February 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 For the last time will you lot please grow up and stop the pathetic abuse Cagey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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