Havana Saint Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42535901 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Drives me nuts when people misunderstand Shakespeare’s meaning in that quote. “Winter of discontent” means the END of the discontent. End of pompous pseudo-intellectual intervention, please carry on. south inch and Coltrane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templar Saint Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 So is TW saying that every other year that we have not had a training camp abroad mid season that the players were not motivated. Maybe I am missing the point but thought that motivation was part of his remit as manager. Stop the digs at the board Tommy and get on with the job that you have in previous seasons done admirably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slambrother Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 In my opinion I don't think Tommy making this information public really helps anyone concerned with the club. It just causes bad feeling and unsettles fans by suggesting there's tension between the two of them. He's clearly piss£d off with Brown for rightly or wrongly not backing his training plans. To me he should wait and see how he's backed by Brown in bringing in new faces in the transfer window which is surely far more important than any training camp. Cagey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ScottMann Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Drives me nuts when people misunderstand Shakespeare’s meaning in that quote. “Winter of discontent” means the END of the discontent. End of pompous pseudo-intellectual intervention, please carry on. I did not know this. Interesting thanks. Mind you I much preferred The End of the Innocence. That was a right foot tapper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 These players don’t deserve a foreign trip to sunnier places. what these misfiring inconsistent professionals need is 3 weeks slugging it out in the shit and grime at somewhere like jeanfield park.maybe then we can match and beat Albion rovers away in the cup. rik2304, PanamaSaint, garydavidson and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 These players don’t deserve a foreign trip to sunnier places. what these misfiring inconsistent professionals need is 3 weeks slugging it out in the shit and grime at somewhere like jeanfield park.maybe then we can match and beat Albion rovers away in the cup. Exactly. also why do we have a training pitch ? to fuqing train on . pretend it’s the Caribbean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 So is TW saying that every other year that we have not had a training camp abroad mid season that the players were not motivated. Maybe I am missing the point but thought that motivation was part of his remit as manager. Stop the digs at the board Tommy and get on with the job that you have in previous seasons done admirably. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Looks like he has done a bit of work checking up on this if he had a game arranged as well. Should have spoken to chairman first methinks. The OF & Hibs are going abroad but how many of the diddy teams are. I hope the manager has put as much effort into looking for a decent midfielder. Moaning about the chairman , players ,fans etc etc but never looking at himself & his tactics. Has he ever said I GOT IT WRONG. slambrother 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havana Saint Posted January 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Drives me nuts when people misunderstand Shakespeare’s meaning in that quote. “Winter of discontent” means the END of the discontent. End of pompous pseudo-intellectual intervention, please carry on. The end or the beginning....that is the question. Abernethy Saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Tommy seems more and more to be using deflection tactics to move discussion away from his own shortcomings of late Sunny training camp my arse. Yes, it probably would be good, but is miles away from being essential john.w and bankfoot saint 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bankfoot saint Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Not sure of the cost of a weeks training camp for the players would be but would rather the money was used to try to get better quality signings into the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldPoster Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Not sure what good warm weather training will do, its not as if when they come back at the end of the month the temperature will be hitting the mid 20's - A problem he could have is the pitches/Astro being frozen and having to cancel training Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Center Half Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Can remember a couple of times we have done this in the Past! pretty sure the performances when we got playing was "Well that was a waste of time" if I remember correctly, give them a week off then two weeks off running up Kinnoul hill,Laps of the North Inch and shooting/passing practise until they get it 100% correct all the time. That should keep them warm enough. Coltrane and Denzil 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john.w Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Tommy seems more and more to be using deflection tactics to move discussion away from his own shortcomings of late Sunny training camp my arse. Yes, it probably would be good, but is miles away from being essential Common sense right out the window, if an employee isnt performing you give him shit then if he still doesn’t improve give him his pansies, no a feckin trip to Spain canny believe TW is throwing his toys oot the pram over this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jad Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Beginning to get annoyed with TW's comments re not getting much from Brown e.g money for trip abroad. As others have stated it doesn't always mean a guarantee of team winning/playing well on their return. Surely professional players can knuckle down and do what is needed here. Sometimes it is TW's tactics and stubborn loyalty to certain players that are costing us points. Wonder if there is some sort of unsettledness or falling out going on. Perhaps things like the NI job are niggling away at him too. Let's hope it all gets sorted/settled during this break. We need to get the feel good team factor back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave H Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 A manager of any club should know the money situation before spec'n up a holiday. A couple of throw away comments make a story but you surely don't even need to mention it.. TW ought to know the deal by now... TW is so 'negative' in his comments its starting to be heard in the crowd. If Brown has said get me a price, and we dont have that money available.. then you shut up and get plan B in order to be fully prepared. Take the group away to St Andrews, or better still prepare them with higher altitude training in the Cairngorms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jez1971 Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 This "Oh woe is me" line is starring to get a bit tiresome. Here's an idea Tommy-why don't you use the time at home to work out what your best team is and stop trying to divert the focus away from what has been a season of slim pickings so far and on a wider note 12 months of pish poor home performances. The long suffering ST holders deserve a bit of positivity and your demeanour is hardly going to get potential supporters out their houses to take advantage of the half season ticket deal and go along to McDiarmid. Dave H 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
541ntees Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 Looks like he has done a bit of work checking up on this if he had a game arranged as well. Should have spoken to chairman first methinks. maybe SB asked TW to get him a price then knocked it back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chips Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 Ken what ma boss would say to me if I asked for money to jet off to sunnier climates for a week to boost staff moral ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crieffsaintandy Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 Maybe stevie boy will take the players on the next sjfc quarterly corporate golfing extravaganza, seems to boost boardroom morale!! Joking apart Tommy needs to start addressing the crap performaces especially at Perth and stop deflecting the issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broon Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 Moan moan moan. Whine whine whine. What happened to the jovial, likeable Tommy Wright? There is a doom and gloom around the place and crap digs like this every week in the media aren't helping. Is it impacting the players? There certainly isn't the same amount of fight/belief/discipline about the team lately. john.w and garydavidson 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy rhodes fancy watch Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 Instead of Tommy moaning about budgets etc, which he cannot control. He should concentrate on things he can control, like say, getting his staff in the ground before midday on match days. Like giving his stuttering stars double training sessions instead of the 3 hour days they train for just now. Like sorting out Ricky Fosters attitude problems etc etc Boils my piss when he moans about shite when HE ISN'T doing his job right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanamaSaint Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 4 hours ago, andy rhodes fancy watch said: Like sorting out Ricky Fosters attitude problems etc etc I don´t think Tommy is qualified for that sh1t. Fosters medical expenses on sorting his anger situation would probably cost more than a winter break in the sun for the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy rhodes fancy watch Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, PanamaSaint said: I don´t think Tommy is qualified for that sh1t. Fosters medical expenses on sorting his anger situation would probably cost more than a winter break in the sun for the team. A punch in the puss would sort it either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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