garydavidson Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 Daily Record has Saints as being involved in discussion about not being involved in the new youth set up - http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sfas-project-brave-faces-full-10372547 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 Add failed manager & racist to Dungcaster & Regan & what do you have?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 Daily Record has Saints as being involved in discussion about not being involved in the new youth set up - http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sfas-project-brave-faces-full-10372547 Anyone on here with a bit of knowledge about this who is able to explain what the consequences would be of Saints not being involved in this and not having "elite status"? Can't the club just carry on running its own youth system in its own way? Also, regional academies - would there be any benefit to Saints in setting up a joint one with the other Tayside clubs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 Daily Record has Saints as being involved in discussion about not being involved in the new youth set up - http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sfas-project-brave-faces-full-10372547 Notice that the article has a Yes/No poll. I voted No, as my club appear to give it the thumbs down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevco zombie Posted May 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 Anyone on here with a bit of knowledge about this who is able to explain what the consequences would be of Saints not being involved in this and not having "elite status"? Can't the club just carry on running its own youth system in its own way? Also, regional academies - would there be any benefit to Saints in setting up a joint one with the other Tayside clubs? If it was to go to regional academy, then it would be sfa run, and geared up for performance school kids, also with the Tayside clubs it wouldn't work. I had heard about this breakaway group and I think it's right that they do this, the criteria for project brave is far to expensive and unrealistic for smaller clubs. Saints do not have elite status, but are on course to win the 17s league again and are still undefeated, the 16s who play against elite sides have only lost once, but even with being so good because they are not in the elite league and nobody in performance schools their players do not get anywhere near a Scotland squad, only Scotland school squads. Also been hearing saints now have a clear plan for bringing through youth to the first team, if it all works out you are going to be blessed with some of the best young players you've ever seen,, The academy isn't perfect but the coaching is excellent they play some great football and given the right opportunities and some other things saints academy will provide a lot of players to the first team. I think there is a 16s game on Wednesday againsts Partick thistle on the astro, come along and see for yourself garydavidson, Abernethy Saint, 55saint and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 The SFA Acadamies are not linked to pro clubs. Although trials are open to all, just about every boy that gets in is pro-youth, and the SFA have scouts watching players well before the application process and will actively approach families and encourage them to apply Saints are not 'elite' yet Ayr are. I find that strange. It's true that Saints are doing well in the older age groups. I remember though that at u-11 and u-12 they would lose most weeks, often heavily This is probably affected by the catchment area, with boys and families willing to travel a bit further as they get older. I know a few boys from the Edinburgh area who have been at Saints, perhaps having been missed or overlooked by Hibs and Hearts Whether both or either of the pro-youth or SFA Acadamies will be successful in bringing through a greater number of players better equipped for the modern game is still to be seen. I know the SFA think that it could be 2020 at least before the benefits begin to be seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevco zombie Posted May 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 The SFA Acadamies are not linked to pro clubs. Although trials are open to all, just about every boy that gets in is pro-youth, and the SFA have scouts watching players well before the application process and will actively approach families and encourage them to apply Saints are not 'elite' yet Ayr are. I find that strange. It's true that Saints are doing well in the older age groups. I remember though that at u-11 and u-12 they would lose most weeks, often heavily This is probably affected by the catchment area, with boys and families willing to travel a bit further as they get older. I know a few boys from the Edinburgh area who have been at Saints, perhaps having been missed or overlooked by Hibs and Hearts Whether both or either of the pro-youth or SFA Acadamies will be successful in bringing through a greater number of players better equipped for the modern game is still to be seen. I know the SFA think that it could be 2020 at least before the benefits begin to be seen The Ayr one was weird, both asked for extension to meet criteria,saints were refused Ayr were allowed it I think it was to do with full time physio, personally I think if your in the premier league then your youth teams should be playing other premier league teams with other teams like fvfa St mirren Dundee utd all invited in, basically your top 16 clubs in Scotland but with realistic criteria for getting in to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevco zombie Posted May 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 This Sunday the u17s are away to celtic, if they win the will win the league title for the second year on the trot Melbourne Saint, McCarry One Nil and Cagerf 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 This Sunday the u17s are away to celtic, if they win the will win the league title for the second year on the trot What time and where? My laddie is playing Celtic on Sunday too (u-13's) at Barrowfield. 11am kick off There are rumours kicking about that they might be actually getting to play the game on the pitch at Parkhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford 72 Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 Some interesting on replies here to @garydavidson post. On the regional academy, I either heard or read elsewhere at the time when they were creating another two elite spots that the SFA tried to push Saints and Dundee (who were both applying) together to create a Tayside academy. How many elite clubs are there at the moment and how often do Saints get to play them, if at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 Some interesting on replies here to @garydavidson post. On the regional academy, I either heard or read elsewhere at the time when they were creating another two elite spots that the SFA tried to push Saints and Dundee (who were both applying) together to create a Tayside academy. How many elite clubs are there at the moment and how often do Saints get to play them, if at all? Hibs play Hearts, Rangers, Celtic, Aberdeen, Dundee Utd, Killie, Ayr, Partick, Motherwell, Forth Valley, Fife Elite, Hamilton and St Mirren Did also play Saints, Dundee, Morton and Clyde up to u-12, but not now at u-13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevco zombie Posted May 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 What time and where? My laddie is playing Celtic on Sunday too (u-13's) at Barrowfield. 11am kick off There are rumours kicking about that they might be actually getting to play the game on the pitch at Parkhead 17s ko at 2pm at Lennoxtown Edstar101 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sevco zombie Posted May 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 Saints lost their first game of the season to Celtic 4 3,not doing match report as it will put me in a rage again, but as far as I know this Saturday they play Inverness at home a win means champions, a draw might do it as I don't know inverness result from Sunday garydavidson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 My lad lost to Celtic too .... 4-1 :0( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 My lad lost to Celtic too .... 4-1 :0( No wonder if he was on his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 No wonder if he was on his own. And he subbed himself after 70mins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 And he subbed himself after 70mins Rodgers like genius in the making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 U17's Retained the league title despite their first and only loss in 2 years to Celtic. Also won the St.Andrews Trophy. Well done. 3 of the group have received International recognition. 9 of the age group are about to sign full time contracts and move up to u20 level. McCarry One Nil, Tranmere Saintee, sixties saintee and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 http://www.perthstjohnstonefc.co.uk/news/post/stevenson-praises-u17s-after-league-title-win5617 One Stand, HOODLUM65, McCarry One Nil and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 16 y.o. Saints defender Gregor Donald scored for the Scotland u17's in 2-0 victory over Wales. Well done Gregor. 541ntees, Cagey, Broggy Man and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 My feeling with our development squad is that we do it the right way. That means we lose a lot of games because we have very young, very raw guys playing. Fair enough. Players come through the system. It's a shame then that we've not been awarded "Elite" status in this Project Brave reform, so we'll likely have to cut some youth teams and will have our best youngsters forced away from us to join one of the eight elite sides. I'll give you hint, that Aberdeen (who's record of youth development is laughable), are the only team awarded elite status outwith Edinburgh or Glasgow. Welcome to the end of Scottish Football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldPoster Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 Should it be any surprise that we are not given this status We currently complete as CAS Level 2 so there was more chance of Ayr United or the Forth Valley/Fife Elite Academies getting into this as there was us. I don't see that there will be much difference. And the comment that Aberdeen are poor at youth development - they currently sit 4th of the U20 League, Top of the U17/16 League and 2nd in U15 ............ i would be ecstatic if we where in the elite tier and in those positions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford 72 Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 I wasn't expecting Saints to make the elite level and indeed Gordon Waddell, who has been on top of this for the best part of a year, suggested we'd given up on the process back in the autumn. I'm not sure it will have much effect on Saints, especially with neither United or Dundee involved either. We should still be in a strong position to sign the best local talent, more so if we can create a pathway to the first team squad. No clubs from the Highlands, Central, Tayside or Fife regions does make a bit of a mockery of the best versus best stuff though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ScottMann Posted November 12, 2017 Report Share Posted November 12, 2017 I wasn't expecting Saints to make the elite level and indeed Gordon Waddell, who has been on top of this for the best part of a year, suggested we'd given up on the process back in the autumn. I'm not sure it will have much effect on Saints, especially with neither United or Dundee involved either. We should still be in a strong position to sign the best local talent, more so if we can create a pathway to the first team squad. Not clubs from the Central, Tayside or Fife regions does make a bit of a mockery of the best versus best stuff though. Ra Gers and ra Celts are there so it is the best v the best in their eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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