The ghost of Jim Morton Posted September 29, 2018 Report Share Posted September 29, 2018 Observations from today. Our defending from corners was very poor. Centre backs not commanding the box. Both goals FREE headers,.. Not even a challenge. Ball retention. Today was awful. We constantly gave the ball away all over the park. When we had the ball, Hearts were on us right away, usually 2 players at least, and we ended up either having the ball taken , resorting to a big punt to nobody in particular or passing to the keeper who then was forced under pressure to punt the ball. Hearts won 90% of these balls and they just came back at us over and over again. The manager right said after the game that we lacked energy, even saying it was lazy.. Totally agree with that. Hearts buzzing, quick passing and moving, slick play. Saints , ponderous. Very few players played anywhere near as well as they can. Kennedy had by far his worst game, Kano is not the answer. All the defenders were struggling.. We were weak, failed to put our foot in and make the strong tackles that we need to make if we are to get anything from games like this.. Looked better with Watt and Swanson but yet again ( as with the cup game) it was too ****ing late. Not sure why MacMillan rather than Kane made way for Watt ( who was stripped a full 10 minutes before he was finally thrown on).. All of that said, we almost could have snatched an undeserved point due to Hearts abject failure to put more than 2 of their many many great chances away.. Overall I am feeling very disappointed, not because we lost but because of the manner of the loss.. There's always the next game though.. #COYS PauloPerth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted September 29, 2018 Report Share Posted September 29, 2018 1 minute ago, The ghost of Jim Morton said: Observations from today. Our defending from corners was very poor. Centre backs not commanding the box. Both goals FREE headers,.. Not even a challenge. Ball retention. Today was awful. We constantly gave the ball away all over the park. When we had the ball, Hearts were on us right away, usually 2 players at least, and we ended up either having the ball taken , resorting to a big punt to nobody in particular or passing to the keeper who then was forced under pressure to punt the ball. Hearts won 90% of these balls and they just came back at us over and over again. The manager right said after the game that we lacked energy, even saying it was lazy.. Totally agree with that. Hearts buzzing, quick passing and moving, slick play. Saints , ponderous. Very few players played anywhere near as well as they can. Kennedy had by far his worst game, Kano is not the answer. All the defenders were struggling.. We were weak, failed to put our foot in and make the strong tackles that we need to make if we are to get anything from games like this.. Looked better with Watt and Swanson but yet again ( as with the cup game) it was too ****ing late. Not sure why MacMillan rather than Kane made way for Watt ( who was stripped a full 10 minutes before he was finally thrown on).. All of that said, we almost could have snatched an undeserved point due to Hearts abject failure to put more than 2 of their many many great chances away.. Overall I am feeling very disappointed, not because we lost but because of the manner of the loss.. There's always the next game though.. #COYS Thank you Gordon .go and have a beer. The ghost of Jim Morton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ghost of Jim Morton Posted September 29, 2018 Report Share Posted September 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, slf said: Thank you Gordon .go and have a beer. Thank you Roy, I have had one.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint GB Posted September 29, 2018 Report Share Posted September 29, 2018 2 hours ago, The ghost of Jim Morton said: Observations from today. Our defending from corners was very poor. Centre backs not commanding the box. Both goals FREE headers,.. Not even a challenge. Ball retention. Today was awful. We constantly gave the ball away all over the park. When we had the ball, Hearts were on us right away, usually 2 players at least, and we ended up either having the ball taken , resorting to a big punt to nobody in particular or passing to the keeper who then was forced under pressure to punt the ball. Hearts won 90% of these balls and they just came back at us over and over again. The manager right said after the game that we lacked energy, even saying it was lazy.. Totally agree with that. Hearts buzzing, quick passing and moving, slick play. Saints , ponderous. Very few players played anywhere near as well as they can. Kennedy had by far his worst game, Kano is not the answer. All the defenders were struggling.. We were weak, failed to put our foot in and make the strong tackles that we need to make if we are to get anything from games like this.. Looked better with Watt and Swanson but yet again ( as with the cup game) it was too ****ing late. Not sure why MacMillan rather than Kane made way for Watt ( who was stripped a full 10 minutes before he was finally thrown on).. All of that said, we almost could have snatched an undeserved point due to Hearts abject failure to put more than 2 of their many many great chances away.. Overall I am feeling very disappointed, not because we lost but because of the manner of the loss.. There's always the next game though.. #COYS To lose to two corners kicks is the biggest disappointment , Hearts has plenty of shots but most of them outside the box Swanny managed to do what nobody else did and that was get the ball, be direct and drive towards the opposition - he managed to get just outside the Hearts Box and and although his shot was miles over bar, he gives us something we don’t get from Kennedy ( who I agree was poor today) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
541ntees Posted September 29, 2018 Report Share Posted September 29, 2018 3 hours ago, The ghost of Jim Morton said: new unacceptable behaviour rules seemingly.. pain in the ass.. I suggested that if the purchaser is a season ticket holder, the club could get the details they require from just showing your ST and fill it in themselves.. Just more ****ing hassle, like we need it.. i presume the O.F fans are made to fill this out too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
541ntees Posted September 29, 2018 Report Share Posted September 29, 2018 7 hours ago, Cleveland-Saint said: i only go to nfl, so probably right that baseball is cheaper.... bet you still dropped $20 parking, $8 /beer and $7 for a hotdog though $5 to park a 30 second walk away at tampa and train right to the red bull arena, Paying to watch the Browns!!! Their record makes Dundee's look good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 5 hours ago, 541ntees said: $5 to park a 30 second walk away at tampa and train right to the red bull arena, Paying to watch the Browns!!! Their record makes Dundee's look good Browns are looking good this year. They’re a decent kicker away from being 3-0. Game totally changed last week with the introduction of Baker Mayfield. Interesting times 541ntees and Cleveland-Saint 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crieffsaintandy Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 11 hours ago, PauloPerth said: Agree, our centre midfield is dreadful. We gave hearts the ball back at every opportunity. We are soft as shite. Barely committed a foul all day yet whenever we looked to get any chance of attacking hearts would happily concede a foul. We had no leaders out there today. Hearts were efficient but we could easily have got something out the game if we’d been on it. Fair play to the Saints fans there today who came away quite positive about our performance. I felt we did nothing until the game was gone. I thought we were pretty pish I’m afraid and hearts should have been out of sight by the time we started playing. Exactly our two main areas of failure are centre midfield and two amigos in defence, Joe and tanser, crying out for a midgey Millar centre mid, Ando has his moments and no one else to cover left back at the moment , but watching this game and the last two against the the bigot brothers the mistakes this pair make are horrendous, I must be missing something when people think Joe is decent, he is weak in the tackle and for a guy of his height get bullied by forwards and his distribution is awful, tanser for bulking up in the summer, well that's worked well and constantly caught out of position. Overall the last week has shown we have decent individual players but has he bought the right mix to make a decent team, I'm not so sure. Not that it makes any difference but saints teams in the last 5 to 10 years would have beaten that pretty average hertz team. PauloPerth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broon Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 51 minutes ago, crieffsaintandy said: Not that it makes any difference but saints teams in the last 5 to 10 years would have beaten that pretty average hertz team. You know I actually thought hearts looked good. Their link play up top was excellent. I'm not sure how much our standing off them made them look good but at times I thought they played better than Celtic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy rhodes fancy watch Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 Get Liam Gordon in the side, get Swanson, Scougall and Wright playing around Watt with Muzz and either Craig/Callachan behind them, job done. Norsaint and crieffsaintandy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, The ghost of Jim Morton said: new unacceptable behaviour rules seemingly.. pain in the ass.. I suggested that if the purchaser is a season ticket holder, the club could get the details they require from just showing your ST and fill it in themselves.. Just more ****ing hassle, like we need it.. Bought 2 tickets from ticket office and never had to fill in any form. Maybe just the dodgy looking characters getting asked to Edited September 30, 2018 by mainstand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 hour ago, mainstand said: Bought 2 tickets from ticket office and never had to fill in any form. Maybe just the dodgy looking characters getting asked to They probably know you by seeing your face looking through the fence when they are training . The ghost of Jim Morton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 Or the Celtic top. JOKE Pat McGroin, garydavidson and The ghost of Jim Morton 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 16 hours ago, The ghost of Jim Morton said: new unacceptable behaviour rules seemingly.. pain in the ass.. I suggested that if the purchaser is a season ticket holder, the club could get the details they require from just showing your ST and fill it in themselves.. Just more ****ing hassle, like we need it.. How many of us sit in the seats whose number is printed on the ticket? What if someone sitting in what was our allocated seat causes bother? I’m getting close to telling them no, I refuse to be constantly “managed.” The ghost of Jim Morton and PauloPerth 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havana Saint Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 We're certainly conceding heavily away from home at the moment. Ten goals in four games and no clean sheets. A concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Cagey said: They probably know you by seeing your face looking through the fence when they are training . Ha ha they done have a fence round stirling Cagey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Abernethy Saint said: Or the Celtic top. JOKE Abernethy Saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ghost of Jim Morton Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 hour ago, andrew said: How many of us sit in the seats whose number is printed on the ticket? What if someone sitting in what was our allocated seat causes bother? I’m getting close to telling them no, I refuse to be constantly “managed.” And me mate, and me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dublin saint Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 just watched the highlights that was some reaction from Callaghan to scoring. thought we had good shout for a penalty in the second half for handball but not like the bbc to miss it As others have we badly need a younger Chris Miller type in the centre of midfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 18 hours ago, The ghost of Jim Morton said: And me mate, and me.. It is highly unlikely that someone could be mistaken for you Ghosty. Unless a local foghorn was at the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 On 9/29/2018 at 8:21 PM, The ghost of Jim Morton said: new unacceptable behaviour rules seemingly.. pain in the ass.. I suggested that if the purchaser is a season ticket holder, the club could get the details they require from just showing your ST and fill it in themselves.. Just more ****ing hassle, like we need it.. They could even acknowledge that it's 2018 and just sell the things online. The ghost of Jim Morton and Havana Saint 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 A continuation of the performances against Celtic and Rangers for me. We created a few chances and could've scored more than one goal, but realistically we're lucky Hearts didn't score a few more which I felt their play probably deserved. Kennedy was and has been poor for a while now and that has to be addressed with the introduction of Swanson, but my biggest concern is the centre of midfield. None of our available options are capable of tackling, taking the ball out from the back or passing at a consistently high level. Alston and Callachan both look capable of popping up with goals and have plenty of energy which addresses other problems from last season, but it's criminal that we don't have a central midfielder in the entire squad who is comfortable in possession, can take the ball in under pressure and recycle the ball. It's not like we're short of numbers either - Davidson, Craig, Alston, Wotherspoon, Callachan, Nydam, McCann and McClean would probably all make arguments that the engine room is their strongest position. I've left Scougall out because he's more comfortable in an advanced role and there's probably more chance of Jason Kerr playing there than him right now. Moving on to the strikers, I thought Kane offered virtually nothing and should've been hooked before McMillan in favour of Watt, who made a bit of a difference and did well at our goal. Wright continues to impress and was everything Kennedy wasn't in terms of application, potential attacking menace and supporting Foster. They did their best to keep Mitchell and Djoum bay on the right - two players who are more than capable of punishing any lapses in defence. I thought Tanser coped reasonably well on the left considering he had virtually no support against Morrison and Smith, who I was glad to see exit the match. If Hearts had scored from open play, it probably would've stemmed from that side. Saints have been maligned for years for having an old squad and a pragmatic manager but what I wouldn't give for some of the cuteness we used to have back in the team. Even one or two of the old guard - Maclean and Millar as examples - would make a huge difference in a team which clearly has much more energy and creativity as they chances we are creating shows, but much less ability to manage a match. They'd make the required fouls, take the required bookings and talk their team mates through matches - something that no one in that team on Saturday seems capable of doing. There's no way, for example, that we would've conceded 64 shots on goal and only conceded 21 fouls in the last 3 matches with the old boys in the team. I reckon this team will come good in time but still needs a proper midfield general to help us through matches. a 29 year old Chris Millar would be perfect. If we have to sacrifice Scougall (who seems most likely given he can't even make the match day squads any more) and Nydam then so be it. PauloPerth and blueheaven 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintj Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 I didn't think we'd take anything from this, didn't think we'd have ''the fight'' in us to do it. We are pretty powderpuff in the middle and at the back and there's 2 things I'm not understanding. The 1st is - why has Liam Gordon been relegated the bench? Him and Kerr are the future at the back and he looks stronger and better than Joe and Ando at the back. He needs games, sitting on the bench is no good for him, or us. The 2nd is, the centre midfield being an obvious weak point, why have we stopped putting 3 in the middle with the 2 wingers on the outside? I think we played our best attacking football with Watt upfront and Wright and Kennedy bombing forward every chance they got and Alston charging forward through the middle. Every time I've seen us play with a midfield 4 we've been over run pretty easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, saintj said: I didn't think we'd take anything from this, didn't think we'd have ''the fight'' in us to do it. We are pretty powderpuff in the middle and at the back and there's 2 things I'm not understanding. The 1st is - why has Liam Gordon been relegated the bench? Him and Kerr are the future at the back and he looks stronger and better than Joe and Ando at the back. He needs games, sitting on the bench is no good for him, or us. The 2nd is, the centre midfield being an obvious weak point, why have we stopped putting 3 in the middle with the 2 wingers on the outside? I think we played our best attacking football with Watt upfront and Wright and Kennedy bombing forward every chance they got and Alston charging forward through the middle. Every time I've seen us play with a midfield 4 we've been over run pretty easily. Liam Gordon has been injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 8 hours ago, mainstand said: Liam Gordon has been injured. Got a run out against Ross County before being subbed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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