blueheaven Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 I really liked Pates whenever I saw him play, and he comes across as a surprisingly good guy (given his reputation before we signed him). But I think moving him on makes sense. We have too many central midfielders, when you consider Willock coming in, McClean breaking through, and the fact that even our wide players - Alston, Spoony, Craig, Scougall - are all arguably better and happier when played more centrally. I'm getting the sense from this that Tommy is finally acknowledging we need to clear the way for younger, faster, more athletic players, and I'm really looking forward to seeing that happen. Paton is a good player but he's like too many of the squad in terms of age and pace, and being honest how many of us would have had him in our predicted strongest XI for this time next year? I'm sure he'll have no problems finding a club though, and I hope he's gone with a decent settlement in his pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldPoster Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 So will we sign anyone over the next 2/3 days who have been released? Stokes is still kicking about ................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBored Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Given it doesn't look like we made an eleventh hour signing, I don't understand the Paton situation. I can't really see it being down to the wages bill given Cummins leaving would probably cover McMillan and MOH going back to Rangers should cover the two loans you would think. I can understand that we have a fair few midfielders but probably only Davidson and Paton are one's you would consider as being able to put a tackle in the midfield area and Davidson isn't exactly going to be fit to play every week. Dave H 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, MrBored said: Given it doesn't look like we made an eleventh hour signing, I don't understand the Paton situation. I can't really see it being down to the wages bill given Cummins leaving would probably cover McMillan and MOH going back to Rangers should cover the two loans you would think. I can understand that we have a fair few midfielders but probably only Davidson and Paton are one's you would consider as being able to put a tackle in the midfield area and Davidson isn't exactly going to be fit to play every week. I'm wondering if it's a case TW sees Muzz, Millar and Craig or Willock playing ahead of him. He's told Paton that, and Patons been told he'll be a guaranteed stater elsewhere. Mutual termination. He gets regular games elsewhere, we get him off the wage bill and it provides a passage for McLean, who outperformed Paton on Monday. No idea of any of that's true, bit it makes sense to me. Especially since it was a mutual termination. garydavidson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, saint_markperth said: So will we sign anyone over the next 2/3 days who have been released? Stokes is still kicking about ................ We don't need Stokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, RandomGuy said: We don't need Stokes. Given his alleged (press reports) link to terrorists, we DON'T need Stokes. Edited February 1, 2018 by HOODLUM65 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, HOODLUM65 said: Given his alleged (press reports) link to terrorists, we DON'T need Stokes. Regardless. A high earning striker who can't play as a striker, who barely scores or assists, and who regularly misses training, isn't what we need. Cagey, HOODLUM65 and fergiefootball 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shibbydoo Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Where is the source for Paton leaving? Can't see anything about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 hour ago, MrBored said: Given it doesn't look like we made an eleventh hour signing, I don't understand the Paton situation. I can't really see it being down to the wages bill given Cummins leaving would probably cover McMillan and MOH going back to Rangers should cover the two loans you would think. I can understand that we have a fair few midfielders but probably only Davidson and Paton are one's you would consider as being able to put a tackle in the midfield area and Davidson isn't exactly going to be fit to play every week. Yeah considering Tommy was apparently upset at not getting money from Brown,it looks like our wage bill will actually be lower. O,Halliday,Cummins,Paton,Thomson & Gilchrist off the wage bill along with a few loanees .Doubt I'll if the 3 in will be costing us too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, Shibbydoo said: Where is the source for Paton leaving? Can't see anything about it. Clubs twitter account Shibbydoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintdunc Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Personally, I would have far rather seen how the new boys settled in before letting go an International footballer. I hope he does not sign for a Premiership team and then bites us on the bum. Oh yes, and it does not exactly sound very mutual either when you read his farewell tweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy Jenkins Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 one international midfielder in one out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintdunc Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Just now, Shaggy Jenkins said: one international midfielder in one out One that needs game time following injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldPoster Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 2 hours ago, RandomGuy said: Regardless. A high earning striker who can't play as a striker, who barely scores or assists, and who regularly misses training, isn't what we need. A player who scores 1 goal every 2 games ......... no we don't need that in the slightest !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, saint_markperth said: A player who scores 1 goal every 2 games ......... no we don't need that in the slightest !! Take out penalties and he's got the same amount of league goals as Steven Maclean despite playing more minutes. He's a myth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldPoster Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 2 hours ago, HOODLUM65 said: Given his alleged (press reports) link to terrorists, we DON'T need Stokes. Jody Morris - Drink Driving Jordan Robertson - Death by Dangerous Driving Paul Paton - Assault on another player Derek Riordan - Assault I hardly think being linked to the IRA touches any of these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldPoster Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 minute ago, RandomGuy said: Take out penalties and he's got the same amount of league goals as Steven Maclean despite playing more minutes. He's a myth. So you are saying he is not better than what we already have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, saint_markperth said: So you are saying he is not better than what we already have? I don't think he'd be worth the wage he'd be wanting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldPoster Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, RandomGuy said: I don't think he'd be worth the wage he'd be wanting. But is he better than what we have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Saintdunc said: Personally, I would have far rather seen how the new boys settled in before letting go an International footballer. I hope he does not sign for a Premiership team and then bites us on the bum. Oh yes, and it does not exactly sound very mutual either when you read his farewell tweet. It has to be mutual as he has contract. Impressed by his text though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bankfoot saint Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, Cagey said: It has to be mutual as he has contract. Impressed by his text though. What text ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, bankfoot saint said: What text ? Guess they mean this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bankfoot saint Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, garydavidson said: Guess they mean this? Cheers hadn’t seen it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucker Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Kyle McLean must be wondering what he has to do to stay in Tommy's plans, especially getting the lad from man utd, probably pushing him done the order more, wound like to see Craig play left back against hearts if tanser is still unfit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 hour ago, saint_markperth said: But is he better than what we have? I'd rather MacLean. No idea what McMillan is like. If Kane performs like he has been I'd rather Kane than Stokes too. Johnstone probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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