Cagey Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 18 minutes ago, callander saint said: The only positive thing I can say about yesterday is that Motherwell are not much better than us and are sitting 3rd in the league. From an attacking/creative point we were probably as good as them but their defence/goalkeeper looked far more organized and solid. I am not too worried about the defense but Zander worries me. I thought he was going to be a top goalie . He is still in general a great shot stopper but falls down in all other aspects of goalkeeping. Is it since the new goalkeeping coach came in a couple of seasons ago or Tommy's dislike of goalies coming off the line or playing the ball out from the back.. Nothing wrong with the occasional long ball but if Zander doesn't punt it he gives it to a defender who does,continually missing out the midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 23 minutes ago, Cagey said: I am not too worried about the defense but Zander worries me. I thought he was going to be a top goalie . He is still in general a great shot stopper but falls down in all other aspects of goalkeeping. Is it since the new goalkeeping coach came in a couple of seasons ago or Tommy's dislike of goalies coming off the line or playing the ball out from the back.. Nothing wrong with the occasional long ball but if Zander doesn't punt it he gives it to a defender who does,continually missing out the midfield. I’m surprised you’re not worried about our defence. It’s our biggest weakness right now IMO. Crying out for an older, streetwise head in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucker Posted September 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 Ralston Kerr Gordon Tanser Compare to Cuptie Frazier Ando Easton All promising youngster's but all at same time is bad management Thought Ralston looked the best of the lot yesterday, Tanser either plays okay or complete shit Tommy has bought to many wingers Play Swanson from the start against county,at least wants to play For county I'd play booth as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) Shocking that Motherwell are in 3rd and Saints in 12th. Were they that much better than us yesterday? Not really. Thought we were very poor but they werent much better. Looks likes there is a massive gulf between the old firm and the rest of us. There's teams above us grinding out results and still playing terrible. We are making stupid mistakes, not gelling as a team, lacking leadership all resulting in low confidence. Unlike the others we are not getting any results out of poor performances. Obvious from the body language that the penalty was never going in before the ball was even kicked. Edited September 29, 2019 by Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 But if we scored the penalty we would’ve gone on to win the game. But if Muzz had scored. Too many buts. Havana Saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 Shouldnt have been a penalty anyway. Think the ref realised the 1st one with May should have been. Players couldnt even get the weight of their passes right yesterday. Some of our players also seem to struggle to stay on their feet when they are not even on the ball. Whats going on there? Is the constant watering of the pitch before and at half time making it really slippy? We've had plenty of rain in Perth this week. Cagey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havana Saint Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 What was the attendance yesterday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Havana Saint said: What was the attendance yesterday? Apparently just over 2900, with 700ish away fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ferg Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 Interesting comment regarding the watering of the pitch, it looked very wet in areas and a few lost their footing most notably Holt for the ridiculous hand ball decision. Cagey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 Not saying the wet pitch was in any way anything to do with the defeat but whats it all about. Is it to slow the game down? A certain player of ours that came on towards the end was falling about all over the place which seemed totally bizarre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 22 minutes ago, Rob said: Not saying the wet pitch was in any way anything to do with the defeat but whats it all about. Is it to slow the game down? A certain player of ours that came on towards the end was falling about all over the place which seemed totally bizarre. It’s to speed the grass up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 Vihmann not even on the bench today. You would think with our defence problems he would at least be on the bench. Imagine coming halfway across Europe to sit in the stand in a strange country. Havana Saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny B Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 6 hours ago, Cagey said: Vihmann not even on the bench today. You would think with our defence problems he would at least be on the bench. Imagine coming halfway across Europe to sit in the stand in a strange country. I hope there is a clause in the contract that allows us to cancel his contract in the next transfer window and bring in someone who is good enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucker Posted September 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) There must be a free agent out there desperate for game time I bet,who could help out at the moment,we all can see we need a centre half Edited September 30, 2019 by tucker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny B Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) One springs to mind, I do not know if he is still available, Marc Wilson the NI International. But I believe there is no money left in the tin as went went into overspend on Stevie May. Edited September 30, 2019 by Johnny B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 It was the Killie game all over again. When we get the ball we don’t know what to do with it. Tanser and McCann played well, the rest were awful, particularly MOH. We seem to play ok when we have to defend and then hit them on the break, or when we feel that we are the underdogs (Hibs and Aberdeen away), but if we need to go and win a game, we just can’t do it. Motherwell weren’t any better than us, but they got the win. Same story against Killie. These teams are tactically minded, they know how to play badly and win anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 I’m sick of not really taking the game to teams until we’re behind/70 mins in. I’ll forever love Tommy for what he brought to the club but I’m feeling like he’s maybe out of ideas. Cagey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 15 hours ago, Pat McGroin said: It’s to speed the grass up To be honest I couldnt remember which way around it was. Just remember that when the South Inch got wet it was slow and marshy. Balls would come to a standstill in the 6 yard box. Guess its a getting the right balance thing. I noticed they sometimes only water one half. Pitch does seem to get excessively watered though. There's been times Ive seen players look like Bambi on ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
541ntees Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 The fact that Zander was arguing with the fans at the end shows just how frustrated the players are. In that instance I can’t see why he didn’t just go up we had a free kick and it was clear it was going to be the last few seconds - nothing to lose. Maybe tommy told him to stay back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
541ntees Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 10:28 AM, Gas Monkey said: So the way many of us rationalised the signing of a non scoring May was that the Dons played him wrongly, leaving him isolated up front not his game etc.......so we sign him and do exactly what the Dons did with him. We were saying the problem was Mciness was playing him out wide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Pat McGroin said: I’m sick of not really taking the game to teams until we’re behind/70 mins in. I’ll forever love Tommy for what he brought to the club but I’m feeling like he’s maybe out of ideas. Yeah,everything is stale & teams know exactly how we play. We play the game at walking pace & don't press. Back off to our own half until we lose a goal. We should not be afraid of 10 of the teams in this league. We should impose our game on them from the start. R.B.B:- Adz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Jack Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 hours ago, 541ntees said: The fact that Zander was arguing with the fans at the end shows just how frustrated the players are. In that instance I can’t see why he didn’t just go up we had a free kick and it was clear it was going to be the last few seconds - nothing to lose. Maybe tommy told him to stay back? Where was this with Zander? I never saw anything like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
541ntees Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 Right at the final whistle . A few fro the scoreboard end were screaming at him to go up and he just put his hands out then when the whistle blew there were a few words back n forth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john.w Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 Tommy says its not his formation thats the problem its mistakes being made. On BBC today Scottish Gossip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, john.w said: Tommy says its not his formation thats the problem its mistakes being made. On BBC today Scottish Gossip This is the problem. I don't remember too many times when Tommy has said he got it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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