slf Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, blueheaven said: Why don't Rangers want it? Because they’re other half want it. obviously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) 16 hours ago, Abernethy Saint said: I’m not sure if everyone understands how infectious this thing is. In a few weeks, there might be hardly a team in Scotland able to field 11 professionals. Which would make arguments about spectator limits fairly irrelevant. Both the EPL and SPFL seem fairly close to calling a halt. I think the only thing stopping them is that there’s no clarity on whether they will be able to hold any games later on. In places where its already rife its pretty much gone a month after its appeared. London for example is already sering a decline in cases before any restrictions. Most estimates I see has us past the peak already, and restrictions simply prolonging the whole thing rather than just letting it burn out. It's more transmissible as it can bypass a part of the vaccine, but the vaccine still prevents serious illness + this strain is less dangerous anyway. Teams not being able to field teams will be down to self isolation rules around families, rather than the actual virus. Edited December 22, 2021 by RandomGuy SlickDT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) 49 minutes ago, blueheaven said: Why don't Rangers want it? Probably due to the fact that Celtic are for it. Think the old firm game is due to be at Parkhead as well. Edited December 22, 2021 by garydavidson south inch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 27 minutes ago, RandomGuy said: In places where its already rife its pretty much gone a month after its appeared. London for example is already sering a decline in cases before any restrictions. Most estimates I see has us past the peak already, and restrictions simply prolonging the whole thing rather than just letting it burn out. It's more transmissible as it can bypass a part of the vaccine, but the vaccine still prevents serious illness + this strain is less dangerous anyway. Teams not being able to field teams will be down to self isolation rules around families, rather than the actual virus. Yes, most players who miss games will be in self-isolation rather than ill. But if you’re in self-isolation, it’s because of the virus. Obviously. Yes, this mutation may be less serious. But as explained in an earlier post, this doesn’t really help the NHS if infection numbers are much, much higher. Be wary of rates falling. The informed view seems to be this is because the public are way ahead of governments, and are self-restricting already. In many families, voluntary lockdown is in place. Hence the problems already in the hospitality sector, and all the anecdotal evidence of cancelled christmases (including ours, for what it’s worth). This happened during the first outbreak as well. The peak is anticipated at mid - late January. I hope you’re right, but I don’t think you are. It’s quite possible spectator levels won’t return to normal this season. templeofsaints 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 hour ago, blueheaven said: Why don't Rangers want it? Probably as otherd say because Celtic do. Probably because they want an empty Parkhead. I think it's to do with them being short of s couple of players at African Nations cup or something like that in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 36 minutes ago, Cagey said: I think it's to do with them being short of s couple of players at African Nations cup or something like that in January. I saw rangers fans mention that, combined with Celtic currently having injuries which will clear up in time for rearranged games so they see it as a disadvantage to Rangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 Also Rangers will never get over their 'relegation' in 2012 and are hell bent on causing as much disruption to the SPFL as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indicator Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Sergei said: Also Rangers will never get over their 'relegation' in 2012 and are hell bent on causing as much disruption to the SPFL as possible. Rangers were not relegated in 2012. They were liquidated, just like Third Lanark and Gretna. The current version was a work of fiction conjured up to ensure the continuation of the OF franchise. [The SFA's Top Secret 5-way agreement.] In short - a licence to shaft the fans of all other clubs. Edited December 22, 2021 by Indicator Abernethy Saint and R.B.B:- Adz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Indicator said: Rangers were not relegated in 2012. They were liquidated, just like Third Lanark and Gretna. The current version was a work of fiction conjured up to ensure the continuation of the OF franchise. [The SFA's Top Secret 5-way agreement.] In short - a licence to shaft the fans of all other clubs. I am fully aware of what happened in 2012 which is why I put 'relegation' and not just relegation. In their minds and their sycophants they were relegated. Everyone else knows they died. Indicator and Abernethy Saint 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 Looks like Callum not sure about bringing shutdown forward as he says it may be worse in 3 weeks time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indicator Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 Apologies Sergei missed the '.....' - will have to do better. Sergei 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Indicator said: Apologies Sergei missed the '.....' - will have to do better. No problem thanks. Have to say I did like your response apart from the obvious. It's our responsibility as true football fans to keep the truth alive and never let the campaign for history to be rewritten succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south inch Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 4 hours ago, garydavidson said: Probably due to the fact that Celtic are for it. Think the old firm game is due to be at Parkhead as well. As we used to say in the Civil Service - "lets take the broad view, how does the situation affect our interests"! I think Rangers scent blood, Celtic have a lot of injuries and an empty Parkhead at New Year would suit them fine. If the St Mirren game tonight is off they remain 7 points to the good and points on the board are always better than those in the bush. They might run up an extra debt or two but when did that ever worry the Ayebroke bosses. garydavidson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 Being offered 3 options. Is it just to split the vote. Should just be yes or no like the referendum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 I wonder when zSPFL will get round to letting us know the vote. Votes had to be in by 5pm. I suppose it will take them a while to count 12 votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south inch Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 39 minutes ago, Cagey said: I wonder when zSPFL will get round to letting us know the vote. Votes had to be in by 5pm. I suppose it will take them a while to count 12 votes. There is probably a problem with the Dundee vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indicator Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) It is from the Sun mind you https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8186016/celtic-backed-nine-rivals-winter-break-rangers/ You'd tbink 10/2 would swing the vote but... not if Rangers* are against it seemingly. Edited December 22, 2021 by Indicator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indicator Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) So... is it only 500 all told in the stadium tonight? And if so why can't the match be b/cast on Saints TV? (In the UK - of course) Edited December 22, 2021 by Indicator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Indicator said: So... is it only 500 all told in the stadium tonight? And if so why can't the match be b/cast on Saints TV? (In the UK - of course) No covid is on holiday until Boxing Day yah dafty. It’s 500 on Boxing Day not today. fill the stands today we are Perth ya bass Indicator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indicator Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 Braw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 Never been so glad to have games called off. It's a sad reflection of where we are at the moment that it's the best news we've had in ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 "As it was, negative PCP tests cleared some senior players and their close contacts to take part in a game that St Mirren had tried to have postponed." https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59770621 Am I missing something or should/could we have done this too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 6 hours ago, Sergei said: Never been so glad to have games called off. It's a sad reflection of where we are at the moment that it's the best news we've had in ages. Was happy when the original County was called off. The worked out well. south inch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south inch Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 hour ago, garydavidson said: Am I missing something or should/could we have done this too? I hope not but I did think our guys were close contacts of confirmed Covid cases. If Zander had played we might not have lost the first goal and then anything could have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted December 24, 2021 Report Share Posted December 24, 2021 SPFL hoping to have full crowds after the break. So Saints unlucky to be the only ones to lose out on a bumper crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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