sixties saintee Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 11 hours ago, Melbourne Saint said: I'd love to see the projected financial impact of a 14-team league for all clubs. It has obviously been done. I doubt it would be beneficial to wee clubs. Just seems a ploy by Tarts possibly Hamilton to avoid relegation. Still don't understand fully why Sevco are so hot on it. Interested if any other leagues say "season is over", positions stand. I know Bundesliga & Serie A are due to resume, but has any league actually pulled the pin? I really cant see the need to reconstruct, only reason to save hearts, they would not be voting against if it was us,time to wrap up the league and start afresh when the green light is pressed. Melbourne Saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 On 5/15/2020 at 9:54 AM, sixties saintee said: I really cant see the need to reconstruct, only reason to save hearts, they would not be voting against if it was us,time to wrap up the league and start afresh when the green light is pressed. Did you mean "they would not be voting FOR (reconstruction) if it was us"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, HOODLUM65 said: Did you mean "they would not be voting FOR (reconstruction) if it was us"? Aye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 Budge at it again & media & SPFL look like they are humouring her. When the **** are they going to draw a line under this fiasco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south inch Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Cagey said: Budge at it again & media & SPFL look like they are humouring her. When the **** are they going to draw a line under this fiasco. Used to read these Just William books when I was a wean. There was a girl in them who used to say to the boys "if I don't get my way I'm going to scream and scream and scream until I'm sick". HOODLUM65 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Cagey said: Budge at it again & media & SPFL look like they are humouring her. When the **** are they going to draw a line under this fiasco. Can't see how they can draw up the numbers of teams in leagues until they find out how many have survived lockdown. (Financially) south inch and Melbourne Saint 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 8 hours ago, HOODLUM65 said: Can't see how they can draw up the numbers of teams in leagues until they find out how many have survived lockdown. (Financially) Very true my friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melbourne Saint Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 13 hours ago, sixties saintee said: Very true my friend Indeed. In fairness, the SFA are really in a tough spot. Closed door games are too expensive to run, so that's out. See the English 2nd Div has ruled it out on that basis and are pushing to close the season on a points-per-game basis. I'm sure the SFA will be looking closely at that and if it does conclude, may be the extra impetus for the SFA to follow suit. The league reconstruction is just madness. A desperate ploy on the back of COVID. If Sevco came up with a balanced financial projection for a 14 team league, that benefits all clubs, then fine. But they can't, because there is no commercial upside. TV/ commercial deals won't increase. They're stuffed. They can't get into English league- say Championship, the stupid Euro Div 2 plan was daft. So, I hope English Div 2 do close the season. Gives the SFA a precedent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 9 hours ago, Melbourne Saint said: See the English 2nd Div has ruled it out on that basis and are pushing to close the season on a points-per-game basis. I'm sure the SFA will be looking closely at that and if it does conclude, may be the extra impetus for the SFA to follow suit. The bottom three tiers in Scotland ended this way about a month ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 10 hours ago, Melbourne Saint said: Indeed. In fairness, the SFA are really in a tough spot. Closed door games are too expensive to run, so that's out. See the English 2nd Div has ruled it out on that basis and are pushing to close the season on a points-per-game basis. I'm sure the SFA will be looking closely at that and if it does conclude, may be the extra impetus for the SFA to follow suit. The league reconstruction is just madness. A desperate ploy on the back of COVID. If Sevco came up with a balanced financial projection for a 14 team league, that benefits all clubs, then fine. But they can't, because there is no commercial upside. TV/ commercial deals won't increase. They're stuffed. They can't get into English league- say Championship, the stupid Euro Div 2 plan was daft. So, I hope English Div 2 do close the season. Gives the SFA a precedent. Just call the season quits and look to restart in about September, with what we have now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted May 18, 2020 Report Share Posted May 18, 2020 Might have had a bit of sympathy with Hearts given their position if. Budge hadn't threatened legal action. Budge hadn't slagged of every club & their supporters. Hadn't been so crap. Had got rid of Levein. Had made an effort against StMirren in their final game where a win would have kept them up. Bye Bye Scotland's yo yo club. south inch and HOODLUM65 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 Has Budge Botched it up yet or has she Budged.. Was it not yesterday she was submitting her master plan to save Hearts ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 The Ann Budge document comes out with some crackers. This is not about saving Hearts but saving Scottish football. The premier League needs Hearts more than the championship In light of the increasingly uncertain times we are facing, I want to urge every Member Club to look at this proposal not as a way to save Hearts, Partick Thistle and Stranraer from relegation, but as a better way for Scottish Football to deal with the current emergency, while at the same time righting an unintended injustice. Biggest load of crap I have read in a while. 3 league's of 14 for 2 seasons top half play 36 games but 8 play 40. Possible play off between 5 th 6th and 7th for a euro spot for a new competition that's not started yet. I suppose the main caveat for the position after 2 years will be as long as hearts are not getting relegated. callander saint, south inch and Havana Saint 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south inch Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 Don't see what she has been doing for the last couple of weeks, this plan is pretty much identical to the one rejected by the SPL clubs at the beginning of the month. I suspect the legal advice Budge is receiving is not that encouraging and she is hoping for some sort of sympathy vote to avoid having to go to court. She has painted herself into a corner there and will be forced to take court action to save face if this document is rejected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, south inch said: Don't see what she has been doing for the last couple of weeks, this plan is pretty much identical to the one rejected by the SPL clubs at the beginning of the month. I suspect the legal advice Budge is receiving is not that encouraging and she is hoping for some sort of sympathy vote to avoid having to go to court. She has painted herself into a corner there and will be forced to take court action to save face if this document is rejected. She has added it would be for two years as nobody wants a 1 year deal. She has also said she would give up their £300 grand parashute payment as the payments will be spread over 14 teams. What about next season ?. She is on about offering facilities for COVID19 testing. Does that mean she is going to pay for every player in Scotland tested. Playoffs for 5th 6th & 7th for Euro place. Just a desperate regurgitation of her previous plan. She must have had a busy weekend coming up with that load of bullshit. Havana Saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 Someone should tell her to gtf once and for all sick hearing about it. HOODLUM65 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havana Saint Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 14 team league.....boring. The proposals for European play off are straight from Dominic Cummings vision eyesight policies. Utter crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 8 hours ago, Cagey said: She is on about offering facilities for COVID19 testing. Does that mean she is going to pay for every player in Scotland tested. That will be using public funded facilities at the prism. They have no training complex they simply rent it from try he uni and oriam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 Her desperation levels are starting to become an embarrassment to Hearts now. This bit in particular is almost Sevco-esque in its arrogance: "Hearts not being in the Premier League at this time would seriously limit our ability to help Scottish football. In short, the Premiership needs Hearts more than the Championship does." There was me thinking teams got relegated for being bottom of the league, but apparently national "need" now has to be considered? This is like the armageddon nonsense all over again. She's actually managed to make her proposal worse, too. Why should the whole league structure be blown apart, just for two years? At the end of those two years there will be a huge upheaval with extra clubs getting relegated and yet more moaning. And what if one of those clubs still ends up being Hearts? Will she tell us again that Hearts can't go down because the stupidly-named Premiership "needs" them? I sincerely hope Saints, and as many other clubs as possible, give this a big fat no. Cagerf and garydavidson 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 2 hours ago, blueheaven said: Her desperation levels are starting to become an embarrassment to Hearts now. This bit in particular is almost Sevco-esque in its arrogance: "Hearts not being in the Premier League at this time would seriously limit our ability to help Scottish football. In short, the Premiership needs Hearts more than the Championship does." There was me thinking teams got relegated for being bottom of the league, but apparently national "need" now has to be considered? This is like the armageddon nonsense all over again. She's actually managed to make her proposal worse, too. Why should the whole league structure be blown apart, just for two years? At the end of those two years there will be a huge upheaval with extra clubs getting relegated and yet more moaning. And what if one of those clubs still ends up being Hearts? Will she tell us again that Hearts can't go down because the stupidly-named Premiership "needs" them? I sincerely hope Saints, and as many other clubs as possible, give this a big fat no. God help us if Hearts were in the relegation zone in 2 years time. A 42 team premiership would be on the agenda blueheaven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south inch Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 Looks like Cormack at Aberdeen is going to support her having voted against a 14 team league just 2 weeks ago. Probably now regretting getting involved in football club ownership following a couple of phone conversations with Ann. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 There's everything in this for Hearts and *all for 99% of the lower leagues who's Chairmen are seeing thru' Budge's plan, which is just a rehash of her old one. How many attempts is Dungcaster and his cronies gonna allow her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templar Saint Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 19 minutes ago, HOODLUM65 said: There's everything in this for Hearts and *all for 99% of the lower leagues who's Chairmen are seeing thru' Budge's plan, which is just a rehash of her old one. How many attempts is Dungcaster and his cronies gonna allow her. They should just tell her WE WILL NOT BUDGE Ann - prepare your club for the championship if and when it restarts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akuram Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 Must reject this for surely the final time. callander saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 This is getting ridiculous. Now pushed back to Monday after another day wasted. How ****ing difficult is it to make a decision. They have been talking about it for weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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