RandomGuy Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 28 minutes ago, Linky said: Very happy that he’s going with 5-3-2, I agree that those 3 young centre backs are the way forward. I do think we need another as back-up though. A Wotherspoon, Davidson, McCann midfield is great, but I’d like to see Butcher back too. I would like to see Hendry be a starter, and if MacLean joins we have 4 strikers, which is a luxury we haven’t had for a while. He said he wants 2 to 3 signings: MacLean, Butcher/Holt and a centre-back. I dont think MacLean was being touted as being a player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, RandomGuy said: I dont think MacLean was being touted as being a player? Read he had hung up his boots but it might be an idea to register him as we are going with a tight squad. That's if he is joining Saints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny B Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 Said it many times not a supporter of 352 but only time will tell. I hope I am wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted June 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, RandomGuy said: I dont think MacLean was being touted as being a player? I’d assume he’d still be around if needed. He’d still manage a few goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE LARK SAINT Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 2 hours ago, RandomGuy said: I dont think MacLean was being touted as being a player? MacLean will be hanging his boots up . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Johnny B said: Said it many times not a supporter of 352 but only time will tell. I hope I am wrong His old team got beat 3_2 at home to Derby. Formation was apparently 4_4_1_1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny B Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 8 hours ago, Cagey said: His old team got beat 3_2 at home to Derby. Formation was apparently 4_4_1_1. CD stated in BBC interview He repeated his desire to recruit "two or three" players to bolster his "really good young squad". "I'm going to have to add. The chairman knows my opinion and what I'd like to bring in," Davidson explained. "There are good characters. A lot of players left at the end of this season. I'll probably try and nail down two systems. What are those 2 systems? The players he brings in may give an indication Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted June 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 The suggestions seem to be 5-2-3 and 4-4-1-1. I wonder whether the first formation is the attacking one, where the wide strikers (May & O'Halloran?) go either side if needed. I imagine this would mean high pressing, stretching defences and getting balls in the box to Hendry. 4-4-11 - O'Halloran would drop back, and May slip in behind Hendry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Linky said: The suggestions seem to be 5-2-3 and 4-4-1-1. I wonder whether the first formation is the attacking one, where the wide strikers (May & O'Halloran?) go either side if needed. I imagine this would mean high pressing, stretching defences and getting balls in the box to Hendry. 4-4-11 - O'Halloran would drop back, and May slip in behind Hendry? Well it's not going to be much of a surprise to teams that we play now that the new formation is leaked Maybe will play total football with players interchanging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widge Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 4-4-1-1 is essentially another word for 4-4-2 which is what we needed up playing last season. Watch the game against Rangers where May spent a large chunk of the game dropping in and sitting on Ryan Jack in midfield to stop him playing. As for the 3 at the back formation, it’s not going to differ much from what we played this season either. I don’t think Davidson is coming in and reinventing a wheel which was turning ever quickly and fluidly somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_gain Posted June 22, 2020 Report Share Posted June 22, 2020 Considering this reporter's record on Saints news I'd say this is a very promising tweet: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted June 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 MacLean has been confirmed. Really hopes he keeps playing too, would be useful off the bench. Why the decision to have no Assistant? Feels like a compromise to me, as if he wanted MacLean as Assistant, but couldn't get rid of Cleland. If Cleland is going to be first-team coach rather than Assistant, does that mean he has signed a new contract for the new role? Also, had Maybury's contract come to an end, or has it been cancelled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE LARK SAINT Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, Linky said: MacLean has been confirmed. Really hopes he keeps playing too, would be useful off the bench. Why the decision to have no Assistant? Feels like a compromise to me, as if he wanted MacLean as Assistant, but couldn't get rid of Cleland. If Cleland is going to be first-team coach rather than Assistant, does that mean he has signed a new contract for the new role? Also, had Maybury's contract come to an end, or has it been cancelled? Hes hanging his boots up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 hour ago, THE LARK SAINT said: Hes hanging his boots up Maybury ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 Swapping Maybury for MacLean means we've gone from 3 full back coaches to 2 full backs and a striker. MacLean should be able to help the likes of Hendry develop, and even give an attackers insight tactically to the manager, which surely cant be a bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny B Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 Cleland a strange situation. He must have had his contract as Assistant Manager cancelled and is now willing to re-sign as a coach. I would expect he has the same contract as Maclean. Which will mean a drop in wages. Going from being quoted as new manager to being demoted to coach must have given him some food for thought. But good on him for staying. Or was it he had nowhere else to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted June 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Johnny B said: Cleland a strange situation. He must have had his contract as Assistant Manager cancelled and is now willing to re-sign as a coach. I would expect he has the same contract as Maclean. Which will mean a drop in wages. Going from being quoted as new manager to being demoted to coach must have given him some food for thought. But good on him for staying. Or was it he had nowhere else to go. Or is that he knows he has somewhere to go fairly soon (once Tommy has had the N. Ireland interview) & so is happy to have a lesser role for a little while to tide him over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 Some folk sure overthink things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 Cleland won’t have signed a new contract, never mind one for less money. I’d imagine no more than a conversation has taken place between CD and AC. Explaining how he wants his coaching setup to run. We basically have 2 guys fulfilling that role, sharing the load and probably committing more time to other areas as a result. Cagey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted June 24, 2020 Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 8 hours ago, Pat McGroin said: Cleland won’t have signed a new contract, never mind one for less money. I’d imagine no more than a conversation has taken place between CD and AC. Explaining how he wants his coaching setup to run. We basically have 2 guys fulfilling that role, sharing the load and probably committing more time to other areas as a result. As far as the practical side of it is concerned training for Saints used to involved Maybury taking the younger layers on the astro while the first team were on the back grass pitches. You wonder if they will share this now or have the younger players integrated into the first team squad. I also wonder if Callum will be similar to mcInnes who used to let Docherty do the coaching and got involved with the players by taking part in the training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhq Posted June 24, 2020 Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 11 hours ago, RandomGuy said: Some folk sure overthink things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted June 24, 2020 Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 2 hours ago, mainstand said: As far as the practical side of it is concerned training for Saints used to involved Maybury taking the younger layers on the astro while the first team were on the back grass pitches. You wonder if they will share this now or have the younger players integrated into the first team squad. Yep, that's what I was thinking - more integration of young players and senior players, with more youngsters being brought into the first team squad and a smaller squad across the board, which has perhaps meant it's made sense to re-organise the coaching structure. Very excited to have Macca back. By all accounts he's hanging up his boots to concentrate solely on coaching - but I can't help but think he'd still be a fantastic option to have in the playing squad, even if only to play in emergencies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted June 24, 2020 Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 Scott Burns, who seems decent with United news, saying TW "isnt under serious consideration" for the United job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akuram Posted June 24, 2020 Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 3 hours ago, blueheaven said: Yep, that's what I was thinking - more integration of young players and senior players, with more youngsters being brought into the first team squad and a smaller squad across the board, which has perhaps meant it's made sense to re-organise the coaching structure. Very excited to have Macca back. By all accounts he's hanging up his boots to concentrate solely on coaching - but I can't help but think he'd still be a fantastic option to have in the playing squad, even if only to play in emergencies. Would still be able to help out if we are short up front surely if registered as a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny B Posted June 24, 2020 Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 14 hours ago, Pat McGroin said: Cleland won’t have signed a new contract, never mind one for less money. I’d imagine no more than a conversation has taken place between CD and AC. Explaining how he wants his coaching setup to run. We basically have 2 guys fulfilling that role, sharing the load and probably committing more time to other areas as a result. I'd imagine we are run like most businesses, there are job descriptions, contracts for the various posts and salaries to match. One for the assistant manager and one for a coach. As Cleland is no longer assistant manager, will he now have a coaches job description and contract? If we believe that he and Maclean are are equal then they will both have the same salary. Are we paying two assistant managers salaries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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