andrew Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 58 minutes ago, blueheaven said: I thought that match could easily have been an embarrassing banana skin for us when you consider our form and our struggle to score goals - so to not only win, but win 7-0, should come as a big boost to everyone I think. That said, I was a bit taken aback by just how bad Brechin were. I reckon they might be candidates for the worst team I've ever seen Saints play against. Shame really, as I've always quite liked them. They've plummeted three divisions in three years and finished bottom of their league three seasons in a row - that's got to be pretty rare. Anyone know what's happened to make them free-fall so badly in such a short space of time? Similar to St Johnstone in the mid 80’s or thereabouts? More examples in England over the years. Edited October 12, 2020 by andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 4 hours ago, andrew said: Similar to St Johnstone in the mid 80’s or thereabouts? More examples in England over the years. Just had a look - we had a bad run from 83-86 but it wasn't quite as bad as Brechin's as we didn't finish bottom three seasons in a row. According to Wiki we finished 9th in the Prem, then 14th in Division 1, then 6th in Division 2. Just spotted that Luton Town had three consecutive relegations from 2006-2009. andrew 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepless Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 hours ago, blueheaven said: Just had a look - we had a bad run from 83-86 but it wasn't quite as bad as Brechin's as we didn't finish bottom three seasons in a row. According to Wiki we finished 9th in the Prem, then 14th in Division 1, then 6th in Division 2. Just spotted that Luton Town had three consecutive relegations from 2006-2009. I seem to recall there was a point in the Division 2 season, probably early on, when we were indeed bottom. It was a grim, grim period. blueheaven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 There was. I remember that day. sleepless 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejksjfc Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 9 hours ago, andrew said: Similar to St Johnstone in the mid 80’s or thereabouts? More examples in England over the years. I think Carlisle had 4 successive promotions followed by 4 successive relegations around the 1970’s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejksjfc Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 hours ago, sleepless said: I seem to recall there was a point in the Division 2 season, probably early on, when we were indeed bottom. It was a grim, grim period. Fantastic "away days" days oot though. sleepless 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MySpazz Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 16 hours ago, Abernethy Saint said: They were promoted to the Championship (they’ve only had two relegations) as a bit of a fluke, stretched themselves to compete there, got relegated without winning a game, lost their whole team, and it has spiralled. At times, they have been almost literally a pub team as they struggled to find players, It would have been better for them to have dropped out & rebuilt in non-league. Shame, because they are a decent club. But they weren't demoted, quite likely on account of their chaiman also being on the SPFL board! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 6 hours ago, MySpazz said: But they weren't demoted, quite likely on account of their chaiman also being on the SPFL board! Maybe, but they'd still have had to lose a play-off for that to happen to them. I suspect if Brechin dropped out of the league they might find it pretty difficult to return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 13 hours ago, ejksjfc said: I think Carlisle had 4 successive promotions followed by 4 successive relegations around the 1970’s Not quite (according to Wiki), but they have had quite a lot of ups and downs over the years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Carlisle_United_F.C._seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 7 hours ago, MySpazz said: But they weren't demoted, quite likely on account of their chaiman also being on the SPFL board! They weren't demoted because they weren't in an automatic relegation spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford 72 Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 What struck me with Brechin is who are their players? Where are the names you know and, across that league, where are the lower league journeymen? They seem to only have those on their last legs (Martin Scott) or kids. Then you look at the Kelty team midweek and there is your answer. These Lower League teams in particular seem to be able to attract players ahead of League Two clubs. In contrast to Brechin, their team was packed with guys you knew. Suspect we could see a fair changing of the guard in the next seasons and more SPFL clubs going the way of Berwick and East Stirlingshire. Whilst Kelty would be a welcome addition having put a lot into their ground/community and have an established fan base, the worry is that league places are secured by essentially franchise clubs like BSC Glasgow, East Kilbride and Caledonian Braves. That doesn't help Scottish football. Although rather 42 Caledonian Braves than colt teams right enough... blueheaven and Abernethy Saint 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 24 minutes ago, Radford 72 said: Suspect we could see a fair changing of the guard in the next seasons and more SPFL clubs going the way of Berwick and East Stirlingshire. Whilst Kelty would be a welcome addition having put a lot into their ground/community and have an established fan base, the worry is that league places are secured by essentially franchise clubs like BSC Glasgow, East Kilbride and Caledonian Braves. That doesn't help Scottish football. Although rather 42 Caledonian Braves than colt teams right enough... In general I think it's really healthy for the Scottish game to have an active pyramid system that allows ambitious small clubs to rise up through the ranks. We've seen with ICT and Ross County just how far some of these clubs can come when given the opportunity. But the nostalgic luddite in me can't help but feel a pang of sadness about the loss from the league of clubs we all grew up with like East Stirling and Berwick. I really hope Brechin manage to avoid that drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejksjfc Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, blueheaven said: Not quite (according to Wiki), but they have had quite a lot of ups and downs over the years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Carlisle_United_F.C._seasons I think it was Northampton I was thinking about they started and finished the 1960’s in Division 4 and were in Div1 in 1964/65. The period with Carlisle I mentioned they were actually top of Div 1 for a spell. blueheaven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 On 10/10/2020 at 8:02 PM, sixties saintee said: Thistle game was 8.1 got held up at work and missed the bus by about 2 minutes. Was that the period when you worked for the Bank? Abernethy Saint and Stumpy1949 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, HOODLUM65 said: Was that the period when you worked for the Bank? A bank dont think so, Christie's the bakers and I wasnt meant to be in that Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 Good to see there were 2 17 year olds in the squad that Callum feels good enough to be there. We have had a wee bit of a lull in young guys breaking through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south inch Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 3 hours ago, RandomGuy said: They weren't demoted because they weren't in an automatic relegation spot. Thought they were 7 points adrift when the Covid closure came, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Jack Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 49 minutes ago, south inch said: Thought they were 7 points adrift when the Covid closure came, but it wasn't automatic relegation from that division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 3 hours ago, HOODLUM65 said: Was that the period when you worked for the Bank? Ha ha re read that very good HOODLUM65 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 Brora & Kelty wanted a play off with the winners playing Brechin which is what would have happened if those teams had finished in the positions they were in at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 There are now 3 tier 5 feeder leagues I think, but I think only one of them is up and running, so Brechin may be safe for another year yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumpy1949 Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 4 hours ago, sixties saintee said: A bank dont think so, Christie's the bakers and I wasnt meant to be in that Saturday. Were they after the dough HOODLUM65 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 Goal 3. Rooney shows Conway & Danny how to cross the ball. Picks out Spoony nicely but Brechin defence poor. akuram 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akuram Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 46 minutes ago, Cagey said: Goal 3. Rooney shows Conway & Danny how to cross the ball. Picks out Spoony nicely but Brechin defence poor. Best cross this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Stumpy1966 said: Were they after the dough That wasnt kneaded. Stumpy1949 and HOODLUM65 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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