Abernethy Saint Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 3 hours ago, dunblanemike said: As a matter of interest, how would Kane’s effort (that the keeper touched over but did not result in a corner) be judged, on or off target? I thought it was going over anyway, so off target and would not count in this strange metric. does hitting the post count as on or off target? Off. Which I’ve always felt was a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 4 hours ago, dunblanemike said: As a matter of interest, how would Kane’s effort (that the keeper touched over but did not result in a corner) be judged, on or off target? I thought it was going over anyway, so off target and would not count in this strange metric. does hitting the post count as on or off target? It's been recorded as off target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 14 hours ago, RandomGuy said: It's been recorded as off target. Random so the stats only count actual saves within the goal? If that is right then they would not count any of the following: Diving at a strikers feet, Going for a cross, Coming out of your area to clear a through ball, cutting out a cut back narrowing the angle so a player shoots wide. Touching over a shot that was adjudged to be going over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, mainstand said: Random so the stats only count actual saves within the goal? If that is right then they would not count any of the following: Diving at a strikers feet, Going for a cross, Coming out of your area to clear a through ball, cutting out a cut back narrowing the angle so a player shoots wide. Touching over a shot that was adjudged to be going over I don't think I'd consider any of those things to be "saves". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 47 minutes ago, mainstand said: Random so the stats only count actual saves within the goal? If that is right then they would not count any of the following: Diving at a strikers feet, Going for a cross, Coming out of your area to clear a through ball, cutting out a cut back narrowing the angle so a player shoots wide. Touching over a shot that was adjudged to be going over It also counts shots that he spills as saves. For example, the first goal for Rangers is classed as a save, then a high quality chance he could do nothing about, when the context is him spilling a simple shot to allow a tap in. Agree that numbers miss a lot of context, but I'm comparing Clark to 93 goalkeepers over 5 seasons, and he's the only one who's below 2 shots per goal in that entire database. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south inch Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 How is a shot which is on target but deflected from the right into the left corner counted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melbourne Saint Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/18/2021 at 7:36 PM, Cagey said: The annoying thing is 3 seasons ago I would have said he was as good as most of those & better than some. I don't know what has happened but it has been a gradual deterioration. Yes, it's all a bit confusing and sad ATM, with not much glimmer of consistent quality. Has a good game, then a bunch of crap ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 What is the latest on Zanders shots per goal stats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.B.B:- Adz Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, mainstand said: What is the latest on Zanders shots per goal stats? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UwWfE4DAyao mainstand 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 Thought he was stuck to his line again last night & there was 2 or 3 times a Rangers player should have scored with a ball he should have claimed. I don't think he likes diving to his left as I think most goalies would have saved that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJet Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 Just now, Cagey said: Thought he was stuck to his line again last night & there was 2 or 3 times a Rangers player should have scored with a ball he should have claimed. I don't think he likes diving to his left as I think most goalies would have saved that one. No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford 72 Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 2 hours ago, mainstand said: What is the latest on Zanders shots per goal stats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford 72 Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 He was a little poor for the County goal - but redeemed himself later - but that apart, it's been a good recovery from that Rangers game for Clark. Stats won't show that for a while as he has a fair bit to make up from earlier in season. Good character from him to bounce back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 It's interesting that shots on target don't equal saves plus goals. Also if you look at clean sheets there are 5 less than him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgendboy Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 Not been his greatest fan but he has looked a lot more confident of late and he had no chance with the goal last night. Radford 72 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford 72 Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, mainstand said: It's interesting that shots on target don't equal saves plus goals. The penalties aren't included is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 40 minutes ago, Bridgendboy said: Not been his greatest fan but he has looked a lot more confident of late and he had no chance with the goal last night. Too many bodies in front of him. The goal was interesting from the point of view Hagi ran along the edge of the box until a certain point and then barely looked up before hitting it, like he knew exactly where to get to in order to get it in the corner, it was a clever move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgendboy Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 10 minutes ago, Rob said: Too many bodies in front of him. The goal was interesting from the point of view Hagi ran along the edge of the box until a certain point and then barely looked up before hitting it, like he knew exactly where to get to in order to get it in the corner, it was a clever move. Yeah good goal but I was the same thought he didn’t look and quite a bit of luck to get through all the bodies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted March 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2021 Credit where credit is due. Zander hitting some real form now. His command of his area is so much better. Wonder if this is an intentional coaching change. Keep it up big Z dave mc and SaintJet 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintdunc Posted March 7, 2021 Report Share Posted March 7, 2021 8 hours ago, Pat McGroin said: Credit where credit is due. Zander hitting some real form now. His command of his area is so much better. Wonder if this is an intentional coaching change. Keep it up big Z Probably because he has confidence in the guys in his defence who are now playing as if they actually know each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted March 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Saintdunc said: Probably because he has confidence in the guys in his defence who are now playing as if they actually know each other. I think it’s more than that. I don’t think Tommy liked his goalkeepers to come off their line. I might be wrong on that, but it seemed like it had been coached out of our keepers. Cagey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted March 7, 2021 Report Share Posted March 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Pat McGroin said: I think it’s more than that. I don’t think Tommy liked his goalkeepers to come off their line. I might be wrong on that, but it seemed like it had been coached out of our keepers. You are correct. Tommy didn't believe keepers should need to command their box. He mentioned it in one of his longer interviews with the BBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted March 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2021 1 hour ago, garydavidson said: You are correct. Tommy didn't believe keepers should need to command their box. He mentioned it in one of his longer interviews with the BBC. Quite a bizarre outlook for an ex keeper! Even more so with a guy the size of Zander. He’s not the most mobile when it comes to getting down to shots, and if he can dominate the box it gives him an edge. Cagey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.B.B:- Adz Posted March 7, 2021 Report Share Posted March 7, 2021 Zander has looked really strong, powerful and confident around his 6-yard box the last couple of matches. Long may it continue. I’ve always liked a keeper who commands their area, it can be a massive advantage. Melbourne Saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted April 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2021 What a howler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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