Templar Saint Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Linky said: I’d love us to sign a striker who can get double figures every season & we can sell onwards for £££. Unlikely though with our budget. If we let May go, who would we honestly be looking to replace him with that we could afford? Aberdeen will be looking for 3 new permanent strikers, Hibs perhaps for 2 if Nisbet goes, Motherwell for 3 perhaps as many of their strikers are out of contract, etc. etc. What’s your plan in terms of competing with them for the likes of Greg Stewart, or anyone else who is willing to come to the league and score more than a few goals a season. Bear in mind we usually only play with 1 striker, and we will potentially have 3 for next season already anyway. Of which only one is contracted passed the end of this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, Templar Saint said: Of which only one is contracted passed the end of this season. Do you think we'll let May, Kane & Melamed all go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widge Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 49 minutes ago, Linky said: I’d love us to sign a striker who can get double figures every season & we can sell onwards for £££. Unlikely though with our budget. If we let May go, who would we honestly be looking to replace him with that we could afford? Aberdeen will be looking for 3 new permanent strikers, Hibs perhaps for 2 if Nisbet goes, Motherwell for 3 perhaps as many of their strikers are out of contract, etc. etc. What’s your plan in terms of competing with them for the likes of Greg Stewart, or anyone else who is willing to come to the league and score more than a few goals a season. Bear in mind we usually only play with 1 striker, and we will potentially have 3 for next season already anyway. We don't have to sign an expensive player from within the league though? In fact I'd be amazed if we signed any current premiership strikers and therefore we aren't going to be "competing" for known quantities. Kane and May can both go if they're wanting a starting wage befitting of a goal scoring striker, neither are that any more. Both are handy players no doubt about it, but neither could finish their dinner. Given we play with 2 strikers regularly as well, we need at least 4 to pick from given injuries and suspensions. I'd much rather we let a couple of them go (they've had their chances and fluffed them consistently) and tried to find a prospect or an unknown quantity in the league. Lets face it, they could be crap and still score the same number of goals that May and Kane have this season. This is what I don't understand a lot of the time with saints fans, we're happy to accept mediocrity at best because we're used to them and are scared that we might actually find better. So what that Kane and May have been good servants for the club, we shouldn't be keeping them around solely for the fact they're good guys and helpful in the dressing room. Give me a big, sulky bugger who'll take huffs constantly if he scores 15 league goals a season. Last time we had one of them was Fran Sandaza and we all know how well that turned out for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 23 hours ago, THE LARK SAINT said: Ok here goes Now I have no idea of contract situations but watch a lot of Championship games on Fridays and those players have stood out for me ,are the right age and I think could step up in position we need to fill Basically a raid on Inverness and Raith Rovers with some others 1/Daniel Mackay 19 Winger ICT 2/Nikolay Todorov 24 Forward IT 3/Cameron Harper 19 Winger ICT 4/Regan Tumilty 24 Right Back Raith Rovers 5/Daniel Armstrong 23 Winger Raith Rovers 6/Regan Hendry 23 Midfield Raith Rovers 6/Lewis Vaughan 25 Forward Raith Rovers 7/Kai Kennedy 19 Left Wing Raith Rovers on loan from Rangers 8 LukeMcGowan 23 Midfielder 42 games 10 goals Ayr Utd 9 /Conor Shields 23 Forward Queen Of The South Throw in as cover and challenge first team keeper 10 Owan Fon Williams Goal ICT I think some of those are loaneees. I think we should keep an eye on some of the players out on loan to see if they are freed from their mother club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Widge said: We don't have to sign an expensive player from within the league though? In fact I'd be amazed if we signed any current premiership strikers and therefore we aren't going to be "competing" for known quantities. Kane and May can both go if they're wanting a starting wage befitting of a goal scoring striker, neither are that any more. Both are handy players no doubt about it, but neither could finish their dinner. Given we play with 2 strikers regularly as well, we need at least 4 to pick from given injuries and suspensions. I'd much rather we let a couple of them go (they've had their chances and fluffed them consistently) and tried to find a prospect or an unknown quantity in the league. Lets face it, they could be crap and still score the same number of goals that May and Kane have this season. This is what I don't understand a lot of the time with saints fans, we're happy to accept mediocrity at best because we're used to them and are scared that we might actually find better. So what that Kane and May have been good servants for the club, we shouldn't be keeping them around solely for the fact they're good guys and helpful in the dressing room. Give me a big, sulky bugger who'll take huffs constantly if he scores 15 league goals a season. Last time we had one of them was Fran Sandaza and we all know how well that turned out for us. Sounds good. So, we let May & Kane go, I doubt we’ll be able to keep Melamed. If you want 4 strikers, which 3 strikers do you suggest we sign within our budget, considering we’re very much lacking defenders, might need 3/4 midfield replacements and our ‘keeper is suspect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templar Saint Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Linky said: Do you think we'll let May, Kane & Melamed all go? Surely it is more a question of can we meet their demands and/or what level of budget CD wants to spend on them individually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, Templar Saint said: Surely it is more a question of can we meet their demands and/or what level of budget CD wants to spend on them individually. Indeed. I said we’d potentially have 3, as I think out of the 3 that are out of contract, we’re likely to retain 2 plus Hendry. Melamed is off I think. Davidson rates Kane. May is the question mark. I just wondered if you’ll think all 3 will leave, or we’d retain just 1 of them, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templar Saint Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 36 minutes ago, Linky said: Indeed. I said we’d potentially have 3, as I think out of the 3 that are out of contract, we’re likely to retain 2 plus Hendry. Melamed is off I think. Davidson rates Kane. May is the question mark. I just wondered if you’ll think all 3 will leave, or we’d retain just 1 of them, etc. Agree that CD seems to rate Kane however he has recently changed agent (same one As Melamed) so that could make getting a deal done a bit more difficult. May is a concern. CD stated he wanted May to get back to striking for goal at every opportunity. This is not happening and in fact he seems a bit shot shy. Is that the reason he is not a certain starter in games? For me if he is a top earner then not value for money and therefore can go. Melamed try to retain and spend savings from May leaving on him. In all cases depends interest from elsewhere. Bring in a forward(s) who can play as one up front and score goals . As not privy to CD's contact list do not know if he has targets lined up or if indeed he is happy enough with our current forwards to offer them deals. What is said in press and what he actually thinks could be two different things. In the end if all three move on then others are brought in. Not be the first time and certainly better strikers than them all have left Saints in the past. Important thing in all deals is to get them over the line early on and not our usual last week/day of window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south inch Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Widge said: Give me a big, sulky bugger who'll take huffs constantly if he scores 15 league goals a season. Last time we had one of them was Fran Sandaza and we all know how well that turned out for us. I don't think we could afford Morelos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 May has created more scoring chances than any other, regularly played, striker in the league. If he wasn't Stevie May people would be appreciating what he brings more IMO. Folk just see his name and demand 10 goals a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 Why do these threads never consider our own youth players, given that we have have half a team or more of very decent home-grown players at the moment? Are there any ready to step up? cristo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhq Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 21 hours ago, Melbourne Saint said: Todorov is an interesting one... He seems to have been around for ages.... can't believe he's 24. Not seen him, but from descriptions here that he's "good hold up player", to me, puts him in the Kane role. I think we need a striker with genuine pace and/ or skill who gets into good positions. As for the list, no problem with championship players, as long as they're young, confident and seeking to constantly improve. Problem is, raiding Raith & ICT (along with 5 or so Premier clubs) will no doubt turn into a bidding war & those clubs will demand top £££ for their best talent. If Saints can strike early on 2 key targets, that'll keep me happy. They'll have to be out of contract in the summer. Saints won't be paying transfer fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 33 minutes ago, Abernethy Saint said: Why do these threads never consider our own youth players, given that we have have half a team or more of very decent home-grown players at the moment? Are there any ready to step up? I dont think any are ready? Ballantyne likely the closest but probably needs 6 months/season at Championship level next. Denham, Steele, Northcott and Hamilton are all just on the fringes of lower league sides. Robertson didn't do much at Forfar. Ferguson is more likely to be loaned next season rather than break through, might depend on how he develops physically this Summer. No idea what's happening with Ross Sinclair, didn't do much in his loan spells either. Abernethy Saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted April 12, 2021 Report Share Posted April 12, 2021 43 minutes ago, Abernethy Saint said: Why do these threads never consider our own youth players, given that we have have half a team or more of very decent home-grown players at the moment? Are there any ready to step up? It looks like Ballentyne is the only one that is getting regular games. Others mainly on the bench so if they can't get a game in lower leagues it doesn't look like they are ready for premiership. Abernethy Saint and Johnny B 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 18 hours ago, Linky said: What I really mean is: getting Melamed was pure luck. I'm not sure we'd have the budget for a striker better than those 3. If we do, it'd be someone like Lafferty who I think may disrupt the squad. Part of the reason we're doing well, I think, is that we have a squad of great professionals who work hard for the team. One player can ruin that. I think we got Melamed because CD was willing to take a chance on a player punted to us by an agent. We probably get those sorts of players pitched to us all the time, so it's not beyond the realms of possibility that CD will go for another one. I'm not sure if that's a strategy CD is generally going to be keen on, or if the circumstances of Covid made it a one-off. But either way, I think it's more likely we'll go for an unknown quantity from abroad who impresses in a trial, or someone from down south (perhaps on loan), than one of the Lafferty-type cloggers who we're all familiar with. The thing that worries me a bit is that our attacking options aren't just about the four strikers. We also have attacking players/forwards like Conway, Middleton and O'Halloran whose deals are all up too. If all/most of these players leave, that suddenly becomes a big rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 Former Scotland midfielder Craig Bryson is open to the idea of extending his St Johnstone career for a further season. https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/st-johnstone/2123488/st-johnstone-craig-bryson-new-contract-clyde-celtic-scottish-cup/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, garydavidson said: Former Scotland midfielder Craig Bryson is open to the idea of extending his St Johnstone career for a further season. https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/st-johnstone/2123488/st-johnstone-craig-bryson-new-contract-clyde-celtic-scottish-cup/ I think that is maybe just putting himself in the shop window by saying that, I notice that off the park he is planning his future though by setting himself up doing personal training. Would be surprised if both Conway and Bryson got another yea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, garydavidson said: Former Scotland midfielder Craig Bryson is open to the idea of extending his St Johnstone career for a further season. https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/st-johnstone/2123488/st-johnstone-craig-bryson-new-contract-clyde-celtic-scottish-cup/ Please NO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 Raith Rovers Lewis Vaughan (25) signed an extension to his contract till end of 2023-24 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Potter Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 I would be flabbergasted if Kane rejected a new deal. He owes Saints big time for sticking by him. As good a season as he’s having, his scoring record is still dire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 2 hours ago, mainstand said: I think that is maybe just putting himself in the shop window by saying that, I notice that off the park he is planning his future though by setting himself up doing personal training. Would be surprised if both Conway and Bryson got another yea. Why? Both have played regularly, and both have been fine as back up players We'll hopefully be running with a larger squad next season. Bridgendboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 If any of the out of contract fringe players think they will get a better gig elsewhere they just have to look at the loads of players out of contract this season. Personally not concerned if non of them sign & hope a couple don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 8 hours ago, RandomGuy said: Why? Both have played regularly, and both have been fine as back up players We'll hopefully be running with a larger squad next season. I think they have been fine, but no more. My concern is that Conway particularly is getting to an age where his fitness will drop off considerably. I would hope that we'd be looking at younger players as back-ups that we can develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akuram Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 On 4/12/2021 at 4:07 PM, Widge said: We don't have to sign an expensive player from within the league though? In fact I'd be amazed if we signed any current premiership strikers and therefore we aren't going to be "competing" for known quantities. Kane and May can both go if they're wanting a starting wage befitting of a goal scoring striker, neither are that any more. Both are handy players no doubt about it, but neither could finish their dinner. Given we play with 2 strikers regularly as well, we need at least 4 to pick from given injuries and suspensions. I'd much rather we let a couple of them go (they've had their chances and fluffed them consistently) and tried to find a prospect or an unknown quantity in the league. Lets face it, they could be crap and still score the same number of goals that May and Kane have this season. This is what I don't understand a lot of the time with saints fans, we're happy to accept mediocrity at best because we're used to them and are scared that we might actually find better. So what that Kane and May have been good servants for the club, we shouldn't be keeping them around solely for the fact they're good guys and helpful in the dressing room. Give me a big, sulky bugger who'll take huffs constantly if he scores 15 league goals a season. Last time we had one of them was Fran Sandaza and we all know how well that turned out for us. Sounds about right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 We might need to replace Chris Kane. Someone of that name is standing for Labour on the List at the election in this area. Thought he was more Centre Forward than Centre/Left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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