Abernethy Saint Posted November 8, 2021 Report Share Posted November 8, 2021 36 minutes ago, Sergei said: It's more fee manipulation to avoid paying hefty add-ons. As an example, say Liverpool liked what they saw in the recent cup game and came in for him seeing an another Andy Robertson situation. Swaps aren't as popular as they were but they still happen. I wonder how much Saints would get if Preston took Ben Davies, Ben Woodburn and £1m instead of a straight fee in a deal valued at, er, em, £3m. It would be astonishing if these legally-binding and well-lawyered contracts didn’t foresee this situation, and many other dodges besides. Broon and his lawyer will have forgotten more about contracts than most of us will ever learn. I imagine in that situation, the add-on would apply to the value of BD and BW plus £1m. Whilst valuations may not be publicly disclosed, I think they might have to be known for eg Fair Play rules, accounts etc. And there are structures in place for a third party to provide them where they are not, eg valuations of young players for compensation when they move on. And beyond that, there is the Court for Arbitration in Sport and the other courts. I don’t think every club is always trying to pull a fast one - the system, which every club uses, would collapse very quickly if they were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhq Posted November 8, 2021 Report Share Posted November 8, 2021 On 11/4/2021 at 4:38 AM, Melbourne Saint said: Yeah, thanks. We prefer not to talk about McCann. Says who? I want to hear if he's doing well - especially from a Preston fan just now. Shibbydoo and blueheaven 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted November 8, 2021 Report Share Posted November 8, 2021 32 minutes ago, jhq said: Says who? I want to hear if he's doing well - especially from a Preston fan just now. I want him to do well so we can get a sell on fee. Plus he is one of ours. Melbourne Saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melbourne Saint Posted November 9, 2021 Report Share Posted November 9, 2021 On 11/9/2021 at 4:23 AM, jhq said: Says who? I want to hear if he's doing well - especially from a Preston fan just now. The comment was made more about "Preston fans can't believe what a bargain they got". I really want him to do well, so the mysterious clauses kick in. I just don't want to be reminded of the extremely low initial fee... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melbourne Saint Posted November 9, 2021 Report Share Posted November 9, 2021 On 11/9/2021 at 1:56 AM, Abernethy Saint said: It would be astonishing if these legally-binding and well-lawyered contracts didn’t foresee this situation, and many other dodges besides. Broon and his lawyer will have forgotten more about contracts than most of us will ever learn. I imagine in that situation, the add-on would apply to the value of BD and BW plus £1m. Whilst valuations may not be publicly disclosed, I think they might have to be known for eg Fair Play rules, accounts etc. And there are structures in place for a third party to provide them where they are not, eg valuations of young players for compensation when they move on. And beyond that, there is the Court for Arbitration in Sport and the other courts. I don’t think every club is always trying to pull a fast one - the system, which every club uses, would collapse very quickly if they were. The details of the clauses have not been revealed. We expect a sell-on fee were he to be sold and who knows what others. I'm presuming details of those contracts do not have to be revealed? I've read in the past that a few clubs (England & Italy) have not played certain players as they approach a milestone clause (usually selection). Either because they're struggling financially, or they have money set aside for new signings, so put it off. "Buy now, pay later" contracts are a bit of a minefield. But such is life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJet Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 watched the highlights of Norn Ireland last night and McCann was MOTM. He won't be in the Championship next year unless Preston come up to the Premier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 41 minutes ago, SaintJet said: watched the highlights of Norn Ireland last night and McCann was MOTM. He won't be in the Championship next year unless Preston come up to the Premier. I'm looking forward to seeing when the 60% sell on clause kicks in. tucker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintdunc Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 6 hours ago, SaintJet said: He won't be in the Championship next year unless Preston come up to the Premier. Eh? dunkeldneil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melbourne Saint Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 7 hours ago, rik2304 said: I'm looking forward to seeing when the 60% sell on clause kicks in. Where did you hear that number? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Melbourne Saint said: Where did you hear that number? blueheaven and pezza70 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melbourne Saint Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 10 hours ago, rik2304 said: Sounds legit then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byebyedundee Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 On 9/7/2021 at 4:58 AM, THE LARK SAINT said: Brian roe Yes Excuse the late reply THE LARK SAINT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 Ally's on the tele Bbc 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, sixties saintee said: Ally's on the tele Bbc 1. Is that one of the add ons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, rik2304 said: Is that one of the add ons? We will never know. rik2304 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 Just been subbed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weesainty Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 Thought he was prity anonymous tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_gain Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 40 minutes ago, weesainty said: Thought he was prity anonymous tonight I thought he played his double pivot role pretty well. It's a pretty thankless task with little scope for dramatics. Essentially squeeze the space, break up attacks and move the ball on. Don't think he lost the ball once, his passing accurate and decisive. Was involved in several chances. Probably got pull out of position for first goal but Spurs are always going to do that at some point. We've never been able to replace Ali, still think he's a quality player. sixties saintee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 42 minutes ago, mike_gain said: I thought he played his double pivot role pretty well. It's a pretty thankless task with little scope for dramatics. Essentially squeeze the space, break up attacks and move the ball on. Don't think he lost the ball once, his passing accurate and decisive. Was involved in several chances. Probably got pull out of position for first goal but Spurs are always going to do that at some point. We've never been able to replace Ali, still think he's a quality player. There’s a lad with big thighs that I think could very well replace Ali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MySpazz Posted March 11, 2023 Report Share Posted March 11, 2023 He's not in the upcoming NI squad......???? injured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSJ.84 Posted March 11, 2023 Report Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 hours ago, MySpazz said: He's not in the upcoming NI squad......???? injured? Out until the end of the season due to a tear in his thigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted March 11, 2023 Report Share Posted March 11, 2023 3 hours ago, PSJ.84 said: Out until the end of the season due to a tear in his thigh Ñot looking good .Sell on fee looking miles away now. Kerr out for season as well I think. McCart hived off to lower league team. Hendry getting some game time. Rooney seems to be. Getting a regular game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pezza70 Posted March 11, 2023 Report Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Cagey said: Ñot looking good .Sell on fee looking miles away now. Kerr out for season as well I think. McCart hived off to lower league team. Hendry getting some game time. Rooney seems to be. Getting a regular game. Rooney is still scoring the odd screamer for them, it’s hard to think, just how many quality players we have lost in the last 18 months, players who could definitely see us fighting for second spot with rangers I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintdunc Posted March 11, 2023 Report Share Posted March 11, 2023 5 hours ago, Cagey said: McCart hived off to lower league team. Lower league maybe but they are top off it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSJ.84 Posted March 11, 2023 Report Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Cagey said: Ñot looking good .Sell on fee looking miles away now. Kerr out for season as well I think. McCart hived off to lower league team. Hendry getting some game time. Rooney seems to be. Getting a regular game. Hendry scored last night too. McCart to The Championship was a really weird one for me. He’s not had much luck since moving to Leyton Orient - been out since the end of January with a calf injury Edited March 11, 2023 by PSJ.84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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