RandomGuy Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Saintdunc said: Support and time but no money. Ah yeah, the "no money" argument, despite him being allowed to give about 5+ players multi-year deals. He was allowed to spend more on fees this Summer than Tommy Wright got in his entire tenure. Poor Callum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintee in exile Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/tommy-wright-rips-st-johnstones-21355117 Remember how TW was treated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, saintee in exile said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/tommy-wright-rips-st-johnstones-21355117 Remember how TW was treated A lot of those issues came about because he'd built a squad with multiple players earning a fortune and doing **** all. Wright, May, O'Halloran, Swanson, McMillan were all around, or over, 6 figure salaries and still on our books for the full season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 45 minutes ago, RandomGuy said: A lot of those issues came about because he'd built a squad with multiple players earning a fortune and doing **** all. Wright, May, O'Halloran, Swanson, McMillan were all around, or over, 6 figure salaries and still on our books for the full season. We finished in the top 6 in that season (again) so he can't have built that bad a squad. Pretty much every squad has a few signings within it that haven't worked out. If you offered me that Saints squad now I'd bite your hand off. 1 hour ago, RandomGuy said: He's as obvious a back up player at this level as you're likely to get. Offers nothing in attack. He's also been comfortably our most consistent performer in the RCB position since Kerr left. Cagey, Johnny B, Cleveland-Saint and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, blueheaven said: We finished in the top 6 in that season (again) so he can't have built that bad a squad. Pretty much every squad has a few signings within it that haven't worked out. If you offered me that Saints squad now I'd bite your hand off. He's also been comfortably our most consistent performer in the RCB position since Kerr left. I'm not saying it was a bad squad. Just that moaning you're getting outbid for players is a bit daft when you've already got a handful of massive earners at the club. Brown has been our best option at RCB, but he's not good enough to play there every week as he doesn't contribute anything going forward. The system doesn't suit him at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 11 hours ago, templeofsaints said: Not the worst name I've heard. He's not an out and out striker though which is what we badly need. Provided there was no fee then probably a decent addition to the squad. Problem is we have too many squad players for that position. We need a proven goal scorer but can't see Saints finding one going by the past couple of windows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, Cagey said: Provided there was no fee then probably a decent addition to the squad. He's contracted there until 2023. If he signs then we'll have paid a fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintdunc Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 I think Davidson has to pull a couple of quality rabbits out of the hat along the lines of Jody Morris or Alan Kernaghan to get us going again. Havana Saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 35 minutes ago, RandomGuy said: He's contracted there until 2023. If he signs then we'll have paid a fee. What about a swap for May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 Board (is that Roddy & Brooner) saying they are releasing significant sums o sign players in the mid season window. Is that saying if it goes tits up its Callums fault. I wonder what they call considerable funds. £100 grand ???. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 “Considerable funds” could be for wages rather than xfer fees. Or a mixture of both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south inch Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 I am sure we all realise that quality players are unlikely to be available in any great numbers in January. "Considerable funds" might not get you very much in a competitive market especially as we will have to have regard to our wage structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 Is this approach going to work? All the agents know how desperate we are - from a position of strength in summer to this. Will only make it worse if we spend a fortune and still get relegated. What are the stats from being bottom at Christmas and surviving? blueheaven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, garydavidson said: Is this approach going to work? All the agents know how desperate we are - from a position of strength in summer to this. Will only make it worse if we spend a fortune and still get relegated. What are the stats from being bottom at Christmas and surviving? Thats the worry and a distinct possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templeofsaints Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 10 hours ago, Cagey said: Provided there was no fee then probably a decent addition to the squad. Problem is we have too many squad players for that position. We need a proven goal scorer but can't see Saints finding one going by the past couple of windows. Agreed but its interesting that nobody on WAP has been able to come up with any names. Tranmere Saintee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintgscot Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, templeofsaints said: Agreed but its interesting that nobody on WAP has been able to come up with any names. Ali Crawford 2 1/2 years I’ve said it park said it needs a release from Bolton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, garydavidson said: What are the stats from being bottom at Christmas and surviving? County were 1 point worse off, with the same gap to 10th, after 20 games last season and avoided the bottom two. garydavidson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny B Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 20 hours ago, RandomGuy said: The system doesn't suit him at all. At this moment in time and with our results the system does not suit anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 I can’t quite decide whether the fact that there haven’t really been any rumours about these new players we’re going to sign is a good thing, because they are not the usual suspects and we’re pushing the boat out for some quality, or a bad thing because the club doesn’t have any idea who to sign and will just leave it until the last 24 hours of the window to see who is desperate. Havana Saint and templeofsaints 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 Saints get another £250,000 UEFA solidarity payment to spend on youth system along with 9 others. Must be spent on youth system but I am sure it will free off money they would have spent on youths. Saints haven't got the transfer market to themselves. I am sure Dundee,StMirren,Killie & others will be fishing in the same pool. I see Drey Wright is back in Hibs plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger Bakers rebel army Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 20 hours ago, Cagey said: Board (is that Roddy & Brooner) saying they are releasing significant sums o sign players in the mid season window. Is that saying if it goes tits up its Callums fault. I wonder what they call considerable funds. £100 grand ???. Previous year 2.8 million cash in bank, last accounts 3.9 million cash according to newspaper reports. Add to that 1.7 m for transfers and 1.5 m for Europe and then increased tickets sales. Squad needs significant change , Brown must trust the structure in place as he has sanctioned it. The cost of going down is horrendous so suspect very significant funds to CD to put this right. Certain to be some players sold and some sent back . Going to be a very interesting few weeks ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintdunc Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 44 minutes ago, Ginger Bakers rebel army said: Previous year 2.8 million cash in bank, last accounts 3.9 million cash according to newspaper reports. Add to that 1.7 m for transfers and 1.5 m for Europe and then increased tickets sales. Squad needs significant change , Brown must trust the structure in place as he has sanctioned it. The cost of going down is horrendous so suspect very significant funds to CD to put this right. Certain to be some players sold and some sent back . Going to be a very interesting few weeks ahead. John Terry gone back to Chelski, so it won’t be him following the footsteps of Jody Morris! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviSaint Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 I’ve a sneaky feeling Nigel Hasselbaink is on his way back to Perth… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bankfoot saint Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 2 hours ago, LiviSaint said: I’ve a sneaky feeling Nigel Hasselbaink is on his way back to Perth… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 Hard to understand why an unemployed 31yo is trying to work his ticket to a club who are intent on splashing the cash in January tbh. If we'd wanted him we could've signed him at any point in the last 6 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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