RandomGuy 3,502 Report post Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Saintdunc said: Support and time but no money. Ah yeah, the "no money" argument, despite him being allowed to give about 5+ players multi-year deals. He was allowed to spend more on fees this Summer than Tommy Wright got in his entire tenure. Poor Callum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saintee in exile 213 Report post Posted December 28, 2021 https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/tommy-wright-rips-st-johnstones-21355117 Remember how TW was treated Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandomGuy 3,502 Report post Posted December 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, saintee in exile said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/tommy-wright-rips-st-johnstones-21355117 Remember how TW was treated A lot of those issues came about because he'd built a squad with multiple players earning a fortune and doing **** all. Wright, May, O'Halloran, Swanson, McMillan were all around, or over, 6 figure salaries and still on our books for the full season. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blueheaven 3,381 Report post Posted December 28, 2021 45 minutes ago, RandomGuy said: A lot of those issues came about because he'd built a squad with multiple players earning a fortune and doing **** all. Wright, May, O'Halloran, Swanson, McMillan were all around, or over, 6 figure salaries and still on our books for the full season. We finished in the top 6 in that season (again) so he can't have built that bad a squad. Pretty much every squad has a few signings within it that haven't worked out. If you offered me that Saints squad now I'd bite your hand off. 1 hour ago, RandomGuy said: He's as obvious a back up player at this level as you're likely to get. Offers nothing in attack. He's also been comfortably our most consistent performer in the RCB position since Kerr left. 4 Cleveland-Saint, Cagey, Saintdunc and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandomGuy 3,502 Report post Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, blueheaven said: We finished in the top 6 in that season (again) so he can't have built that bad a squad. Pretty much every squad has a few signings within it that haven't worked out. If you offered me that Saints squad now I'd bite your hand off. He's also been comfortably our most consistent performer in the RCB position since Kerr left. I'm not saying it was a bad squad. Just that moaning you're getting outbid for players is a bit daft when you've already got a handful of massive earners at the club. Brown has been our best option at RCB, but he's not good enough to play there every week as he doesn't contribute anything going forward. The system doesn't suit him at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cagey 2,903 Report post Posted December 28, 2021 11 hours ago, templeofsaints said: Not the worst name I've heard. He's not an out and out striker though which is what we badly need. Provided there was no fee then probably a decent addition to the squad. Problem is we have too many squad players for that position. We need a proven goal scorer but can't see Saints finding one going by the past couple of windows. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandomGuy 3,502 Report post Posted December 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, Cagey said: Provided there was no fee then probably a decent addition to the squad. He's contracted there until 2023. If he signs then we'll have paid a fee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saintdunc 825 Report post Posted December 28, 2021 I think Davidson has to pull a couple of quality rabbits out of the hat along the lines of Jody Morris or Alan Kernaghan to get us going again. 1 Havana Saint reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cagey 2,903 Report post Posted December 28, 2021 35 minutes ago, RandomGuy said: He's contracted there until 2023. If he signs then we'll have paid a fee. What about a swap for May. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cagey 2,903 Report post Posted December 28, 2021 Board (is that Roddy & Brooner) saying they are releasing significant sums o sign players in the mid season window. Is that saying if it goes tits up its Callums fault. I wonder what they call considerable funds. £100 grand ???. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abernethy Saint 3,690 Report post Posted December 28, 2021 “Considerable funds” could be for wages rather than xfer fees. Or a mixture of both. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
south inch 1,068 Report post Posted December 28, 2021 I am sure we all realise that quality players are unlikely to be available in any great numbers in January. "Considerable funds" might not get you very much in a competitive market especially as we will have to have regard to our wage structure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
garydavidson 1,845 Report post Posted December 28, 2021 Is this approach going to work? All the agents know how desperate we are - from a position of strength in summer to this. Will only make it worse if we spend a fortune and still get relegated. What are the stats from being bottom at Christmas and surviving? 1 blueheaven reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cagey 2,903 Report post Posted December 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, garydavidson said: Is this approach going to work? All the agents know how desperate we are - from a position of strength in summer to this. Will only make it worse if we spend a fortune and still get relegated. What are the stats from being bottom at Christmas and surviving? Thats the worry and a distinct possibility. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
templeofsaints 396 Report post Posted December 28, 2021 10 hours ago, Cagey said: Provided there was no fee then probably a decent addition to the squad. Problem is we have too many squad players for that position. We need a proven goal scorer but can't see Saints finding one going by the past couple of windows. Agreed but its interesting that nobody on WAP has been able to come up with any names. 1 Tranmere Saintee reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saintgscot 185 Report post Posted December 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, templeofsaints said: Agreed but its interesting that nobody on WAP has been able to come up with any names. Ali Crawford 2 1/2 years I’ve said it park said it needs a release from Bolton. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandomGuy 3,502 Report post Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, garydavidson said: What are the stats from being bottom at Christmas and surviving? County were 1 point worse off, with the same gap to 10th, after 20 games last season and avoided the bottom two. 1 garydavidson reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny B 381 Report post Posted December 29, 2021 20 hours ago, RandomGuy said: The system doesn't suit him at all. At this moment in time and with our results the system does not suit anyone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Linky 249 Report post Posted December 29, 2021 I can’t quite decide whether the fact that there haven’t really been any rumours about these new players we’re going to sign is a good thing, because they are not the usual suspects and we’re pushing the boat out for some quality, or a bad thing because the club doesn’t have any idea who to sign and will just leave it until the last 24 hours of the window to see who is desperate. 2 templeofsaints and Havana Saint reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cagey 2,903 Report post Posted December 29, 2021 Saints get another £250,000 UEFA solidarity payment to spend on youth system along with 9 others. Must be spent on youth system but I am sure it will free off money they would have spent on youths. Saints haven't got the transfer market to themselves. I am sure Dundee,StMirren,Killie & others will be fishing in the same pool. I see Drey Wright is back in Hibs plans. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ginger Bakers rebel army 695 Report post Posted December 29, 2021 20 hours ago, Cagey said: Board (is that Roddy & Brooner) saying they are releasing significant sums o sign players in the mid season window. Is that saying if it goes tits up its Callums fault. I wonder what they call considerable funds. £100 grand ???. Previous year 2.8 million cash in bank, last accounts 3.9 million cash according to newspaper reports. Add to that 1.7 m for transfers and 1.5 m for Europe and then increased tickets sales. Squad needs significant change , Brown must trust the structure in place as he has sanctioned it. The cost of going down is horrendous so suspect very significant funds to CD to put this right. Certain to be some players sold and some sent back . Going to be a very interesting few weeks ahead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saintdunc 825 Report post Posted December 29, 2021 44 minutes ago, Ginger Bakers rebel army said: Previous year 2.8 million cash in bank, last accounts 3.9 million cash according to newspaper reports. Add to that 1.7 m for transfers and 1.5 m for Europe and then increased tickets sales. Squad needs significant change , Brown must trust the structure in place as he has sanctioned it. The cost of going down is horrendous so suspect very significant funds to CD to put this right. Certain to be some players sold and some sent back . Going to be a very interesting few weeks ahead. John Terry gone back to Chelski, so it won’t be him following the footsteps of Jody Morris! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LiviSaint 1 Report post Posted December 29, 2021 I’ve a sneaky feeling Nigel Hasselbaink is on his way back to Perth… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bankfoot saint 271 Report post Posted December 29, 2021 2 hours ago, LiviSaint said: I’ve a sneaky feeling Nigel Hasselbaink is on his way back to Perth… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandomGuy 3,502 Report post Posted December 29, 2021 Hard to understand why an unemployed 31yo is trying to work his ticket to a club who are intent on splashing the cash in January tbh. If we'd wanted him we could've signed him at any point in the last 6 months. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites