slf Posted November 13, 2021 Report Share Posted November 13, 2021 On 11/12/2021 at 12:35 PM, south inch said: My 12 year old grandson says "what is a DVD"? There might still be a market for those of us who still have a DVD player so we can watch our John Wayne collection. Braw try explaining vhs video tapes and for a laugh betamax the chunky loser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintgscot Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 On 11/11/2021 at 11:42 PM, dave mc said: We won more league games that season that cup games,winning over a season is a far bigger achievement Maybe so but unbeaten in two cups What an honour. How many teams have won the league compared to teams wining a double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 9 hours ago, saintgscot said: Maybe so but unbeaten in two cups What an honour. How many teams have won the league compared to teams wining a double. Winning the league with our club would surpass any double, when did a provincial team last win the league, plenty have won cups, and doubles if you go far enough back, just my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 9 hours ago, saintgscot said: Maybe so but unbeaten in two cups What an honour. How many teams have won the league compared to teams wining a double. United beat us on pens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aagb1884 Posted November 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 On 11/12/2021 at 4:57 PM, Sergei said: This is just typical of the supremacy mindset of the Old Firm follower. They will always be better than you no matter what you do. It's one reason they follow them. There's definitely a complete failure to understand that other clubs have different levels of expectation and demand on them than Rangers do. A double is an obvious highlight in our history, probably the best season we could have imagined, whereas their list of demands is win the league and cups, wind up Ryan Porteous and insist that the real bigotry is people calling them bigots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Saints Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, dave mc said: Winning the league with our club would surpass any double, when did a provincial team last win the league, plenty have won cups, and doubles if you go far enough back, just my opinion If you’d like to journey back in time and tell us the names of the many many provincial teams who have won the double, that would be much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 53 minutes ago, The Real Saints said: If you’d like to journey back in time and tell us the names of the many many provincial teams who have won the double, that would be much appreciated. Nine non-OF teams have won the league title. Struggling to find a list online of which teams have won the Scottish Cup and League Cup double, but would be surprised if there are as many as nine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali91 Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 For a club like Rangers who have vast amounts of (other peoples) resources to spend, it’s easier to win the league than win the double. The league allows them to slip up, there’s not the same pressure on every game in the same way as there is in the cup where one mistake means the double is gone. For a club like Saints it’s easier to win the double than the league. The consistency required to win the league is unfortunately most likely beyond any club other than two in Scotland. All that being said, St Johnstone winning the double is clearly a vastly bigger achievement than Rangers winning the league undefeated. They all know that, we all know that, and no matter how much crying they do that won’t change. Bruno Strasser, HOODLUM65 and blueheaven 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve McQueen Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 7 hours ago, dave mc said: Winning the league with our club would surpass any double, when did a provincial team last win the league, plenty have won cups, and doubles if you go far enough back, just my opinion I agree that winning the league would be a bigger achievement but is the double is rarer. 11 teams have won the league since 1891. 4 clubs have won both cups in the same season since the League cup started 75 years ago. (Hearts won a League & League Cup double too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 39 minutes ago, Steve McQueen said: I agree that winning the league would be a bigger achievement but is the double is rarer. 11 teams have won the league since 1891. 4 clubs have won both cups in the same season since the League cup started 75 years ago. (Hearts won a League & League Cup double too) I know it’s rarer for a provincial club,but so is winning the league in recent history,and surely winning the league is much more difficult than 10 cup games,albeit a great achievement for us,all about opinions I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 15 hours ago, Steve McQueen said: 4 clubs have won both cups in the same season since the League cup started 75 years ago. (Hearts won a League & League Cup double too) I take it that's Rangers, Celtic, Aberdeen and ourselves? HOODLUM65 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenrothes saintee Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 55 minutes ago, blueheaven said: I take it that's Rangers, Celtic, Aberdeen and ourselves? Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintgscot Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 11/15/2021 at 9:34 AM, dave mc said: United beat us on pens Pens for a bonus point don’t count as a loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 5 hours ago, saintgscot said: Pens for a bonus point don’t count as a loss. So if the bonus point put us out, we still didn’t lose the tie? We’re out the cup , but didn’t lose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 12 hours ago, dave mc said: So if the bonus point put us out, we still didn’t lose the tie? We’re out the cup , but didn’t lose? Exactly, it isn't a loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 Technically, it’s not a loss. The tie is finished at 90; the shoot-out is for an extra point. It was brought in to stop the mini league games becoming tedious - that’s why the format was altered to straight knockout back in the day. However, if it puts you out of the cup, it wit will sure feel like a loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 4 hours ago, garydavidson said: Exactly, it isn't a loss. So we didn’t beat Rangers or Lucerne in cups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 1 minute ago, dave mc said: So we didn’t beat Rangers or Lucerne in cups Wow you must be bored. You are trying to compare a cup group with knock out rounds! We knocked them out on penalties after the tie was a draw. Dundee United gained a bonus point on penalties after the tie was a draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 26 minutes ago, dave mc said: So we didn’t beat Rangers or Lucerne in cups Those were in different competitions with different rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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saintgscot Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 8 hours ago, dave mc said: So we didn’t beat Rangers or Lucerne in cups Well if you put a bet on at bookies to say we defeated Lucerne and Rangers you wouldn’t of got your money back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melbourne Saint Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 3 hours ago, saintgscot said: Well if you put a bet on at bookies to say we defeated Lucerne and Rangers you wouldn’t of got your money back. I confess that I lost clarity of wtf folk are talking about some time ago. I like Lucerne. Nice transport museum. south inch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 13 hours ago, saintgscot said: Well if you put a bet on at bookies to say we defeated Lucerne and Rangers you wouldn’t of got your money back. You would if the bet was to go through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 Would you swap a mouldy roll for a jammy piece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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