RandomGuy Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, garydavidson said: Ah cheers. Is that it? He tried to play a one two and it didn't come off so got hung up to dry by the manager? Yeah as far as I can tell that's the incident. Tbf he had another incident where he overplayed where a fairly simple ball would've had Rooney clean through. I'd guess Davidson has had frustration building for a while and it came out after the game. garydavidson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlickDT Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 Make of it what you will, but I know of atleast a couple players that supposedly aren't the biggest fans of Eetu. Maybe a personality issue as much as what happens on the field. I still think he can offer something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 3 hours ago, RandomGuy said: Yeah as far as I can tell that's the incident. Tbf he had another incident where he overplayed where a fairly simple ball would've had Rooney clean through. I'd guess Davidson has had frustration building for a while and it came out after the game. Also tried a stepover when he could’ve played easy ball to Rooney again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 28 minutes ago, dave mc said: Also tried a stepover when he could’ve played easy ball to Rooney again How many times has the golden boy wasted possession, failed to challenge, etc. This is poor from CD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 4 hours ago, garydavidson said: Ah cheers. Is that it? He tried to play a one two and it didn't come off so got hung up to dry by the manager? Didnt actually think that it was the right space for Eetu to run into before the flick, it was the difficult route. Ball should have been played to him earlier, the simpler pass then he could have passed out to the right. Wasnt Eetu's fault for the goal though. I can see that they should have kept it simple and not taken risks and tried to get in at 0-0. The goal was coming though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 On 12/16/2021 at 2:28 PM, dave mc said: Callum wanted Greg Stewart, he’d have been decent, but Grieve brought Eetu in, Callum wanted Hendry to stay too, but forced to let him go as Killie paying all his wages, think there’s a bit of politics involved with Eetu Careful. Talk like that isn't welcome around these here parts. Callum's obviously pissed off with Eetu trying to play a bit of football in the clip. He'll be angry Kane wasn't there trying to hold the ball up, waiting for contact and 'winning' a foul to relieve the pressure. He'll probably now use it as a coaching aid to highlight what happens when you try to be the slightest bit adventurous confirming his policy of safety first, second, third, fourth and fifth is the only way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintdunc Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 On 12/17/2021 at 11:53 AM, SlickDT said: Make of it what you will, but I know of atleast a couple players that supposedly aren't the biggest fans of Eetu. This needs clarification! You know personally do you, and why is it ‘supposedly’ if you know? blueheaven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Saintdunc said: This needs clarification! You know personally do you, and why is it ‘supposedly’ if you know? Rooney having a go at him during game, and gesticulating to Davidson aw the time, should concentrate on his own game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 Most of the players in this squad should be concentrating on themselves. Half of them are shite and the other half seemed to have chucked it. Rooney himself was guilty of multiple mistakes yesterday just down to laziness, then tries to hide behind shouting and bawling at everyone else. garydavidson and sixties saintee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 United reserves/youths gave Rangers a run for their money. Hearts should probably have beaten them & it was down to Rangers not being at their best. They beat Saints & its the best they have played all season. Most teams seem to have their best game of the season against us. So as well as being unlucky with injuries & decisions we have that as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 On 12/16/2021 at 2:28 PM, dave mc said: Callum wanted Greg Stewart, he’d have been decent, but Grieve brought Eetu in, Callum wanted Hendry to stay too, but forced to let him go as Killie paying all his wages, think there’s a bit of politics involved with Eetu https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/st-johnstone/2500136/callum-davidson-st-johnstone-can-help-make-eetu-vertainen-a-finland-international/ "Davidson added: “Eetu can also play out wide, which is what I was looking for – so he will fit into our system and give us flexibility. “We looked a lot at that, how will he fit into our system? And we liked his athleticism and drive, so he’s someone we wanted to get on board.”" Is the use of 'we' a lie then? Cagey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 45 minutes ago, garydavidson said: https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/st-johnstone/2500136/callum-davidson-st-johnstone-can-help-make-eetu-vertainen-a-finland-international/ "Davidson added: “Eetu can also play out wide, which is what I was looking for – so he will fit into our system and give us flexibility. “We looked a lot at that, how will he fit into our system? And we liked his athleticism and drive, so he’s someone we wanted to get on board.”" Is the use of 'we' a lie then? We = Saints, same as when saying us. There's not many 'I's as in eg 'I've liked what I've seen of him and I was keen to get him on board' When I is used it's more of a generalism. It's mostly we. It's a positive piece to announce a big signing, by our standards anyway, and easy to accept at face value. I wouldn't expect anything else in the circumstances. People could actually spend all day selectively using bits from it to back up both sides of the argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, garydavidson said: https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/st-johnstone/2500136/callum-davidson-st-johnstone-can-help-make-eetu-vertainen-a-finland-international/ "Davidson added: “Eetu can also play out wide, which is what I was looking for – so he will fit into our system and give us flexibility. “We looked a lot at that, how will he fit into our system? And we liked his athleticism and drive, so he’s someone we wanted to get on board.”" Is the use of 'we' a lie then? He’s not going to say ,I’d rather get Greg in,is he? Also said he seen videos of him.My information came from a person who has been on the board,don’t shoot the messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 Greg Stewart would've cost twice is as much, is over 30, and doesn't fit the managers preferred system, so I can fully believe Davidson was desperate to sign him. garydavidson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 Just now, RandomGuy said: Greg Stewart would've cost twice is as much, is over 30, and doesn't fit the managers preferred system, so I can fully believe Davidson was desperate to sign him. He’d play either Spoony or Conways role from last season, probably Conways,so is a better fit than Vertainen imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 Just now, dave mc said: He’d play either Spoony or Conways role from last season, probably Conways,so is a better fit than Vertainen imo He would've been getting signed to play on the right to cut in on his left, seeing as that's the only position he's ever played in and he's completely one footed (left). His wages in India are higher than anyone at our club too, maybe he simply preferred that move? The manager maybe preferred Stewart to Vertainen, who was signed to play on the left of our attack, but not getting Stewart + getting Vertainen doesn't = Davidson being overruled in transfer business. I can tell you for a fact that no transfer business has happened at the club without him agreeing to it, in or out. garydavidson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, RandomGuy said: He would've been getting signed to play on the right to cut in on his left, seeing as that's the only position he's ever played in and he's completely one footed (left). His wages in India are higher than anyone at our club too, maybe he simply preferred that move? The manager maybe preferred Stewart to Vertainen, who was signed to play on the left of our attack, but not getting Stewart + getting Vertainen doesn't = Davidson being overruled in transfer business. I can tell you for a fact that no transfer business has happened at the club without him agreeing to it, in or out. Who is your source? I can tell you for a fact,your fact is false,but forget it,I’m not getting involved in posting tennis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 3 hours ago, dave mc said: Who is your source? I can tell you for a fact,your fact is false,but forget it,I’m not getting involved in posting tennis. You do sound like you are trying to back up a manger with some of the worst transfer business in the clubs history under his belt. Has your source said how many he is actually responsible for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 41 minutes ago, garydavidson said: You do sound like you are trying to back up a manger with some of the worst transfer business in the clubs history under his belt. Has your source said how many he is actually responsible for? I’m nit backing anyone up, pointing out Eetu was not his signing, and was forced to letCallum go to Killie too, out of interest who’s the worst signings he’s made? I take it you never seen Ian Gibsons transfer business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, dave mc said: I’m nit backing anyone up, pointing out Eetu was not his signing, and was forced to letCallum go to Killie too, out of interest who’s the worst signings he’s made? I take it you never seen Ian Gibsons transfer business. I am not that old hence why I said some of the worst not the worst. Fair enough he hasn't paid money for folk but I don't think anyone can defend what happened this summer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintdunc Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 5 hours ago, garydavidson said: I don't think anyone can defend what happened this summer? It was Amateur at best, or was it Business before Football? garydavidson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 5 hours ago, Saintdunc said: It was Amateur at best, or was it Business before Football? No it's good business to invest in a position of strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 5 hours ago, Saintdunc said: It was Amateur at best, or was it Business before Football? We're seeing the failings of Brown now. If he wants to stay up then he now HAS to invest at a time when the market is not in our favour. How different might it have been if he'd chosen to invest right at the start of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 11 hours ago, garydavidson said: I am not that old hence why I said some of the worst not the worst. Fair enough he hasn't paid money for folk but I don't think anyone can defend what happened this summer? No one is disputing that, but how do you know it wasCallums decision not to buy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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