pezza70 Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 Heading into the current season we had just won the double and we’re off on European adventure yet we bought in players of questionable abilities to replace the quality we lost. We obviously were never double champions and had no euro football but I was thinking of the quality players we were able to attract still in years gone by Sergei Paul Wright Allan K Jason Scotland Nick D Paul Hartley Billy Dodds Jody Morris thats just to name a few off the top of my head, but how can we go from there to not being able to sign players who are game changes for us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setting Son Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 Unfortunately panic buys half way through a season have never been fruitful for us . We’ve always been seen just recently as having a spine to the team with able bodied replacements on the bench to do a job . Although we’ve had a few pumpings at places like Motherwell , Hamilton , Livingston always been able to bounce back through sheer determination and with players who’d walk through walls for us . Maybe this transition is just a bit too much this time for us to handle . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 23 minutes ago, pezza70 said: Heading into the current season we had just won the double and we’re off on European adventure yet we bought in players of questionable abilities to replace the quality we lost. We obviously were never double champions and had no euro football but I was thinking of the quality players we were able to attract still in years gone by Sergei Paul Wright Allan K Jason Scotland Nick D Paul Hartley Billy Dodds Jody Morris thats just to name a few off the top of my head, but how can we go from there to not being able to sign players who are game changes for us? Paul Hartley was a winger when we signed him. Arguably we had a bigger impact on his career than he did our club by moving him central. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templeofsaints Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 Jody aside most of them were pre Bosman. Totally different market these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setting Son Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, templeofsaints said: Jody aside most of them were pre Bosman. Totally different market these days Jody came to us in the championship ( 1st Division ) although his career was in free fall. The kind of player we need now . Said this already . Flair, determination, ball winner , something special to turn a game . I miss Spoony as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chips Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 45 minutes ago, Evansabove said: Unfortunately panic buys half way through a season have never been fruitful for us . Billy Dodds ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setting Son Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 Just now, chips said: Billy Dodds ? We got relegated. Geoff brown made some money though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chips Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 Just now, Evansabove said: We got relegated. Geoff brown made some money though But a decent signing at that point of the season, just too fecking late Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templeofsaints Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 minute ago, chips said: But a decent signing at that point of the season, just too fecking late More like his first game was the one Wright was crocked in. If we'd had both strikers available for the remainder of that season it might have made the difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setting Son Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, chips said: But a decent signing at that point of the season, just too fecking late Mmmm sounds familiar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setting Son Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, templeofsaints said: More like his first game was the one Wright was crocked in. If we'd had both strikers available for the remainder of that season it might have made the difference If only Spoony hadn’t got injured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossest Man In Scotland Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 4 hours ago, pezza70 said: Heading into the current season we had just won the double and we’re off on European adventure yet we bought in players of questionable abilities to replace the quality we lost. We obviously were never double champions and had no euro football but I was thinking of the quality players we were able to attract still in years gone by Sergei Paul Wright Allan K Jason Scotland Nick D Paul Hartley Billy Dodds Jody Morris thats just to name a few off the top of my head, but how can we go from there to not being able to sign players who are game changes for us? Was thinking along exactly the same lines. Remember the 96/97 when we added to an already decent squad by signing Sekerlioglu, Jenkinson and Dasovic. And that was as a First Division team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setting Son Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Crossest Man In Scotland said: Was thinking along exactly the same lines. Remember the 96/97 when we added to an already decent squad by signing Sekerlioglu, Jenkinson and Dasovic. And that was as a First Division team. We were getting home crowds of 4-5000 some of the total crowds were 8-9-10000 Edited January 23, 2022 by Evansabove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Pat McGroin said: Paul Hartley was a winger when we signed him. Arguably we had a bigger impact on his career than he did our club by moving him central. I always find it odd when Hartley gets included on lists like this. In his first season with us he struggled to get a game. In his second he was good but we got relegated. In his third he spent most of his time wandering half-heartedly around the pitch looking completely disinterested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setting Son Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, blueheaven said: I always find it odd when Hartley gets included on lists like this. In his first season with us he struggled to get a game. In his second he was good but we got relegated. In his third he spent most of his time wandering half-heartedly around the pitch looking completely disinterested. I remember him coming through with Hamilton when they were playing at Firhill doing pretty much the same . Wandering about , constantly on his arse and complaining to the ref . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 42 minutes ago, Crossest Man In Scotland said: Was thinking along exactly the same lines. Remember the 96/97 when we added to an already decent squad by signing Sekerlioglu, Jenkinson and Dasovic. And that was as a First Division team. I was thinking about the Jenkinson signing the other day - a move like that would never, ever happen now. He was a 26-year-old fringe player with an English Premier League club and yet he moved to the Scottish First Division. There must have been a pretty big wage gulf between clubs at those two levels even then, but just imagine what it must be now. Same with Kernaghan, who voluntarily moved to Saints from Man City. He was already an Irish international who had moved between Middlesbrough and Man City in a seven-figure deal. Back then we were able to get players of his quality on loan from English Premier League sides. Nowadays our only hope of getting players on loan from that level is if we go for youngsters who haven't broken through yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, blueheaven said: I was thinking about the Jenkinson signing the other day - a move like that would never, ever happen now. He was a 26-year-old fringe player with an English Premier League club and yet he moved to the Scottish First Division. There must have been a pretty big wage gulf between clubs at those two levels even then, but just imagine what it must be now. Same with Kernaghan, who voluntarily moved to Saints from Man City. He was already an Irish international who had moved between Middlesbrough and Man City in a seven-figure deal. Back then we were able to get players of his quality on loan from English Premier League sides. Nowadays our only hope of getting players on loan from that level is if we go for youngsters who haven't broken through yet. Times have changed nowadays we are scrambling about taking players from Ireland . will the new players be of the calibre of the likes of John donegan vinny arkins and Liam dunn , nuggets all . Didn’t want to include Daniel griffin as he was in another league entirely to the aforementioned. what was the question again ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 Just now, slf said: Times have changed nowadays we are scrambling about taking players from Ireland . will the new players be of the calibre of the likes of John donegan vinny arkins and Liam dunn , nuggets all . Didn’t want to include Daniel griffin as he was in another league entirely to the aforementioned. what was the question again ? We've had some great players from both Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland over the years, but I don't think that players we've actually signed directly from either of the Irish leagues have ever done particularly well here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 minute ago, blueheaven said: We've had some great players from both Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland over the years, but I don't think that players we've actually signed directly from either of the Irish leagues have ever done particularly well here. Correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akuram Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Crossest Man In Scotland said: Was thinking along exactly the same lines. Remember the 96/97 when we added to an already decent squad by signing Sekerlioglu, Jenkinson and Dasovic. And that was as a First Division team. Michael Duberry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double deluxe Posted January 24, 2022 Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 Simon Donnelly was a bit of a coup, he’d only been at the World Cup five years prior to joining us in the first division. Earned a move back to the premier league with Dunfermline after just a season. Alan Kernaghan and Jody Morris the two stand out signings in my lifetime, class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dooj Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 At what stage of the season did Paul Hegarty sign for us? Appreciate that he was definitely towards the end of his career, but he was still a class act. According to Wikipedia, only 14 appearances for us, but those were during the 89-90 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 On 1/23/2022 at 4:52 PM, blueheaven said: We've had some great players from both Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland over the years, but I don't think that players we've actually signed directly from either of the Irish leagues have ever done particularly well here. There shall be no Alan Mannus slander allowed in here, thank you very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 41 minutes ago, Dooj said: At what stage of the season did Paul Hegarty sign for us? Appreciate that he was definitely towards the end of his career, but he was still a class act. According to Wikipedia, only 14 appearances for us, but those were during the 89-90 season. I think it was probably around three-quarters of the way into the season? The transfer deadline used to be around then, before the transfer windows were introduced. Also remember we brought in John Colquhoun at a similar stage of our title-winning season in 96/97. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 24 minutes ago, RandomGuy said: There shall be no Alan Mannus slander allowed in here, thank you very much. Good shout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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