blueheaven Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 2 hours ago, THE LARK SAINT said: no loss Yep, last thing we want in our squad is a young striker with a bit of raw talent who's played for Finland U-21s and looked interested in at least trying to bring some flair and creativity to our painful, predictable, hopeless, goal-less approach. I can understand people thinking Eetu didn't do enough when he was here, but what I can't understand is people not thinking it might have been a good idea to try to develop and encourage and get the best out of this player, instead of chucking him in the bin. It's just absolutely bizarre to me that the club invested so much time, money and resource in getting him here, but don't seem to have been willing to invest anything in him at all once he was actually our player. They practically spent longer trying to get his work permit sorted than they did actually giving him a chance to play. It's an absolute embarrassment the way we've treated this guy. Havana Saint, chips, saintee in exile and 14 others 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 8 hours ago, blueheaven said: Yep, last thing we want in our squad is a young striker with a bit of raw talent who's played for Finland U-21s and looked interested in at least trying to bring some flair and creativity to our painful, predictable, hopeless, goal-less approach. I can understand people thinking Eetu didn't do enough when he was here, but what I can't understand is people not thinking it might have been a good idea to try to develop and encourage and get the best out of this player, instead of chucking him in the bin. It's just absolutely bizarre to me that the club invested so much time, money and resource in getting him here, but don't seem to have been willing to invest anything in him at all once he was actually our player. They practically spent longer trying to get his work permit sorted than they did actually giving him a chance to play. It's an absolute embarrassment the way we've treated this guy. Like yourself always found this one a bit strange that he got such little game time. None of us know, however, what has been done behind closed doors by the player or the Club to make the move a success. Folk seem really keen to jump on this as being something the Club or the manager in particular has done wrong. Is it not just possible that the player has not fitted in with the other players and coaches at the club and not made the level of commitment and desire that they have looked at from him. I think sometimes you just have to accept or acknowledge that those at the Club will a bit more about what is happening than we do. It's a shame it has not worked out for him and hopefully he goes on to be a success somewhere, who knows he might be recalled come January and be a success at the Club. Kilgour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pezza70 Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 It’s weird the club obviously seen something in the lad to take him on and then to not give him a good go is baffling, does anyone think Ciftci deserved a game each week when he couldn’t score in a brothel with 200 quid in his hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 12 hours ago, RandomGuy said: Most of the players I'd have wanted we'd have to have moved on months ago, as it is we've, yet again, gone into a Summer window without anything in the works to strengthen us. Like who?? and how do you know they didn't try? It is very easy to hide behind a statement like the one you have made above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bonham Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 Pretty happy with the Carey signing. Been playing at a high level regularly last season so clearly still has the legs and will add some quality going forward. I would normally be thinking signing a 33 y/o attacking mid would be hard to justify but ye doesn’t appear to have had any major injury problems through his career. hopefully bag a few worldies too. surely we’ll be shifting some midfielders out now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJet Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 3 hours ago, mainstand said: Like yourself always found this one a bit strange that he got such little game time. None of us know, however, what has been done behind closed doors by the player or the Club to make the move a success. Folk seem really keen to jump on this as being something the Club or the manager in particular has done wrong. Is it not just possible that the player has not fitted in with the other players and coaches at the club and not made the level of commitment and desire that they have looked at from him. I think sometimes you just have to accept or acknowledge that those at the Club will a bit more about what is happening than we do. It's a shame it has not worked out for him and hopefully he goes on to be a success somewhere, who knows he might be recalled come January and be a success at the Club. This is my take on the Etu signing as well. We have plenty experts on here who know everything but the reality is we know nothing of what goes on behind the scenes and if the lad didn't toe the line you can't be part of what needs to be a close tight knit group of players. When the morale and displine goes down the pan the team becomes fractured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintdunc Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 13 minutes ago, SaintJet said: This is my take on the Etu signing as well. We have plenty experts on here who know everything but the reality is we know nothing of what goes on behind the scenes and if the lad didn't toe the line you can't be part of what needs to be a close tight knit group of players. When the morale and displine goes down the pan the team becomes fractured. Is Macca part of the problem though? First Melamed, then Vertainen and possibly Bair. Just sayin’ Mr T 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger Bakers rebel army Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 My optimism for a successful season ahead is rising with each new signing. Have been waiting on the old story of players out before we bring in new but thankfully we haven’t had to suffer that. New keeper signing next week and I think we will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indicator Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, mainstand said: Folk seem really keen to jump on this as being something the Club or the manager in particular has done wrong. Surely the club could have avoided much of the rumour, innuendo and discontent amongst the support if it had simply issued a short statement such as '... out on loan to gain experience improve fitness etc.' Of course they are not obliged to keep fans informed. 3 hours ago, pezza70 said: It’s weird the club obviously seen something in the lad to take him on and then to not give him a good go is baffling, does anyone think Ciftci deserved a game each week when he couldn’t score in a brothel with 200 quid in his hand In my view It is that situation that has compounded the issue. Why was one player given so much time to prove he couldn't score and the other didn't get a fair chance. If he wasn't ready for SPL standard football just say so in a carefully worded statement. 36 minutes ago, SaintJet said: ...we know nothing of what goes on behind the scenes and if the lad didn't toe the line... Edited July 1, 2022 by Indicator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 43 minutes ago, Saintdunc said: Is Macca part of the problem though? First Melamed, then Vertainen and possibly Bair. Just sayin’ Nae smoke without fire. Melbourne Saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Saintdunc said: Is Macca part of the problem though? First Melamed, then Vertainen and possibly Bair. Just sayin’ Melaned got offered a contract extension and played in a number of games nobody has said hair has any problem other than comi gbin without having done any pre season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john.w Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 19 hours ago, Cleveland-Saint said: I've seen some comments online of folks pinning some hope on Theo Bair to score goals. I know he wasn't played much, but when he was on he seemed sluggish or lacked intent to harass and get stuck in. That's pretty key to the Scottish game or at least the way we play on often poor surfaces. Should see some of the surfaces up here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That_Dave Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 23 hours ago, RandomGuy said: 'Headed in the right direction' In two of those games the priority was to avoid injuries and suspensions, not the result. If you ignore the under-strength teams put out against Celtic and Hibs, that's 5 points from 4 games. Add in the two previous first-team games - wins against Motherwell and Livingstone, and it's 11 points from the last 6 we actually tried in. That would be 4th in the form table. andy rhodes fancy watch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE LARK SAINT Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 Not sure if it has been said elsewhere but Glen Middleton amongst others have been told they have no future at Rangers and free to move on. Not sure If Saints will be interested....maybe aye maybe naw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pezza70 Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 8 hours ago, THE LARK SAINT said: Not sure if it has been said elsewhere but Glen Middleton amongst others have been told they have no future at Rangers and free to move on. Not sure If Saints will be interested....maybe aye maybe naw Would love to see him back, fully fit he would be a great addition to our squad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie Peat Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 9 hours ago, THE LARK SAINT said: Not sure if it has been said elsewhere but Glen Middleton amongst others have been told they have no future at Rangers and free to move on. Not sure If Saints will be interested....maybe aye maybe naw I was talking to Glen Middleton's cousin last week and he said that Glen really enjoyed being at Saints and had a lot of respect for CD. So maybe aye! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Potter Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 9 hours ago, THE LARK SAINT said: Not sure if it has been said elsewhere but Glen Middleton amongst others have been told they have no future at Rangers and free to move on. Not sure If Saints will be interested....maybe aye maybe naw Not for me unless we’re changing system. He’s clearly got talent but he needs to be playing regularly in his best position or he’s wasted. R.B.B:- Adz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 I'd take Middleton back but can only see it happening if it's another loan. Why would he take a wage cut to come here when he can stick it out at Sevco for another year and earn as much money as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad on saints Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, blueheaven said: I'd take Middleton back but can only see it happening if it's another loan. Why would he take a wage cut to come here when he can stick it out at Sevco for another year and earn as much money as possible. They are expected to get rid of him. He isn’t liked by Gio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 What is mr Spock up to these days. Reckon he would be a smash with they funny ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 14 hours ago, THE LARK SAINT said: Not sure if it has been said elsewhere but Glen Middleton amongst others have been told they have no future at Rangers and free to move on. Not sure If Saints will be interested....maybe aye maybe naw I would guess that Carey has filled his position in the squad, so would doubt it unless it's a cheap loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Mad on saints said: They are expected to get rid of him. He isn’t liked by Gio Maybe so but he has a contract with them so he could choose to sit and wait that out, unless they're willing to pay it off. It may be easier and more cost effective for them to just shove him back out on loan again for the final year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 No keeper news or ideas of who's coming in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melbourne Saint Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 Middleton plays center forward for Scotland's U21's. Pretty successful. Coud be an option against winger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 24 minutes ago, Melbourne Saint said: Middleton plays center forward for Scotland's U21's. Pretty successful. Coud be an option against winger? Don't think he was good as a lone striker for under 21s. Certainly wouldn't cope with big centre half in premiership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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