Maskrey Posted July 2, 2024 Report Share Posted July 2, 2024 2 hours ago, Saintdunc said: A higher level??? Pretty low bar to be fair Well playing in the top league for us is a step up in his development from playing in the Championship for Partick. He will be up against better players week in week out. Saintdunc and blueheaven 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maskrey Posted July 2, 2024 Report Share Posted July 2, 2024 20 minutes ago, Cagey said: Do we need another unde21 at centre half and why give another teams young player game time. Did he not play midfield for Partick quite a bit. Although he is young he has a fair bit of experience now. The reason to give another teams player game time is we don’t have a young player of similar ability of our own and it could be beneficial to both parties. That’s how the loan system works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templeofsaints Posted July 2, 2024 Report Share Posted July 2, 2024 Courier says McGowan wasnt offered a new contract but has offers from some Championship sides. So thats only Dan to get signed up / compensation for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted July 2, 2024 Report Share Posted July 2, 2024 Interesting that McGowan is away. Crying out for some experience at the back now. Especially with pretty inexperienced GKs. tucker and Havana Saint 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.B.B:- Adz Posted July 2, 2024 Report Share Posted July 2, 2024 42 minutes ago, rik2304 said: Interesting that McGowan is away. Crying out for some experience at the back now. Especially with pretty inexperienced GKs. Experienced + a bit shite = relegation We tried the experienced route the last couple of seasons and look at the mess we are in. Experience wins you f*ck all! andy rhodes fancy watch and Smarmy Arab 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted July 2, 2024 Report Share Posted July 2, 2024 7 hours ago, Maskrey said: Although he is young he has a fair bit of experience now. The reason to give another teams player game time is we don’t have a young player of similar ability of our own and it could be beneficial to both parties. That’s how the loan system works. I just don't think we should be helping teams in our league by giving their young players the game time they won't get in their own team. Just stupid. Don't have a problem with the loan system as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maskrey Posted July 2, 2024 Report Share Posted July 2, 2024 2 hours ago, Cagey said: I just don't think we should be helping teams in our league by giving their young players the game time they won't get in their own team. Just stupid. Don't have a problem with the loan system as such. We have loaned players from teams in the same league before, it’s nothing new. If it’s mutually beneficial then it’s all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted July 3, 2024 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2024 10 hours ago, Cagey said: I just don't think we should be helping teams in our league by giving their young players the game time they won't get in their own team. Just stupid. Don't have a problem with the loan system as such. Personally I don't even think it should be allowed. Up until relatively recently, it wasn't. But now that it is, I guess it's something the club has to be open to. It got us a useful player in Montgomery, for example. I'm struggling to think of many others though. I nearly always find our loan signings in general to be pretty underwhelming, though I suppose the general strategy each year is to bring in three or four of them and hope that one of them ends up doing the business. The success rate feels pretty low to me, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted July 3, 2024 Report Share Posted July 3, 2024 Phillips has now gone. pezza70 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pezza70 Posted July 3, 2024 Report Share Posted July 3, 2024 Where is Phillips off to? Anyone from the PSJ team who fancies a game for us in the SPL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted July 3, 2024 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2024 So, the squad as it stands ... Goalkeepers Josh Rae - 2026 Ross Sinclair - 2026 Craig Hepburn - 2027 Defenders/wing backs Oludare Olufunwa - 2025 David Keltjens - 2025 Sam McClelland - 2025 Liam Parker - 2025 Jack Sanders - 2026 Midfielders/wingers Connor Smith - 2025 Max Kucheriavyi - 2025 Matt Smith - 2025 Alex Ferguson - 2025 Fran Franczak - 2025(?) Cammy MacPherson - 2025 Sven Sprangler - 2025 Graham Carey - 2025 Drey Wright - 2025 Josh McPake - 2026 Forwards Stevie May - 2025 Nicky Clark - 2025 Benjamin Kimpioka - 2025 Adama Sidibeh - 2026 Uche Ikpeazu - 2026 Taylor Steven - 2026 Departures Dave Richards - end of loan, returns to Crewe, signed for Dundee Utd Luke Robinson - end of loan, returns to Wigan Athletic Diallang Jaiyesimi - end of loan, returns to Charlton Athletic Chris Kane - end of contract, signed for Dunfermline Athletic Jack Wills - end of contract, signed for Queen's Park James Brown - end of contract Andy Considine - end of contract Callum Booth - end of contract, signed for Spartans Tony Gallacher - end of contract Ali Crawford - end of contract Cammy Ballantyne - end of contract, signed for Linfield Dimitar Mitov - sold to Aberdeen for undisclosed fee Liam Gordon - end of contract, signed for Motherwell Ryan McGowan - end of contract Daniel Phillips - end of contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted July 3, 2024 Report Share Posted July 3, 2024 Looks like Saints have given up on ant chance of compensation. Will be interesting where he ends up. 15 or so out the door and 4 squad players in the door. Season starts in earnest next week. I am beginning to worry. Maskrey, Havana Saint and pezza70 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maskrey Posted July 3, 2024 Report Share Posted July 3, 2024 50 minutes ago, blueheaven said: So, the squad as it stands ... Goalkeepers Josh Rae - 2026 Ross Sinclair - 2026 Craig Hepburn - 2027 Defenders/wing backs Oludare Olufunwa - 2025 David Keltjens - 2025 Sam McClelland - 2025 Liam Parker - 2025 Jack Sanders - 2026 Midfielders/wingers Connor Smith - 2025 Max Kucheriavyi - 2025 Matt Smith - 2025 Alex Ferguson - 2025 Fran Franczak - 2025(?) Cammy MacPherson - 2025 Sven Sprangler - 2025 Graham Carey - 2025 Drey Wright - 2025 Josh McPake - 2026 Forwards Stevie May - 2025 Nicky Clark - 2025 Benjamin Kimpioka - 2025 Adama Sidibeh - 2026 Uche Ikpeazu - 2026 Taylor Steven - 2026 Departures Dave Richards - end of loan, returns to Crewe, signed for Dundee Utd Luke Robinson - end of loan, returns to Wigan Athletic Diallang Jaiyesimi - end of loan, returns to Charlton Athletic Chris Kane - end of contract, signed for Dunfermline Athletic Jack Wills - end of contract, signed for Queen's Park James Brown - end of contract Andy Considine - end of contract Callum Booth - end of contract, signed for Spartans Tony Gallacher - end of contract Ali Crawford - end of contract Cammy Ballantyne - end of contract, signed for Linfield Dimitar Mitov - sold to Aberdeen for undisclosed fee Liam Gordon - end of contract, signed for Motherwell Ryan McGowan - end of contract Daniel Phillips - end of contract Frightening reading that😳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintdunc Posted July 3, 2024 Report Share Posted July 3, 2024 Pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pezza70 Posted July 3, 2024 Report Share Posted July 3, 2024 Wow that squad doesn’t look SPL standard, I hope I’m wrong but gee that squad on paper is a big concearn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted July 3, 2024 Report Share Posted July 3, 2024 Tony Sibbick and Nathaniel Atkinson have been made available at Hearts. Wonder if Levein is using his contacts to make enquiries. R.B.B:- Adz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widge Posted July 3, 2024 Report Share Posted July 3, 2024 1 hour ago, Cagey said: Looks like Saints have given up on ant chance of compensation. Will be interesting where he ends up. 15 or so out the door and 4 squad players in the door. Season starts in earnest next week. I am beginning to worry. Explain how they’ve given up on compensation? We offered him a deal and he’s turned it down, therefore wherever he ends up will still be due saints compensation. Shock horror you’re making stuff up to suit your anti-saints agenda right now. R.B.B:- Adz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBored Posted July 3, 2024 Report Share Posted July 3, 2024 You really have to hope that the club are holding back waiting for confirmation of the takeover before announcing a fair number of signings....if the deal gets delayed we are asking for trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted July 3, 2024 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2024 One of our issues under Davidson was the imbalance of the squad and I'm a bit worried we still haven't escaped that. On paper it looks like we have too many midfielders yet I'd still say we need to sign at least one experienced CM who is good enough to start every week. In fact I think the absolute bare minimum we need is two central defenders, one left-back and one central midfielder. All of them need to have some experience behind them, be a good age and be better than the current options in those positions. And in addition to that at least one of them needs to be captain material. And on top of all that I'm still not convinced we've sorted out our lack of width. Those are some huge boxes we still need to tick and I know there's still a while to go but I'd hoped that by this stage we'd be sorted out in at least a couple of those areas. Just for comparison - last year we didn't sign Mitov until 14th July, Jephcott until 21st July and Matt Smith until 5th August. Willie Peat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted July 3, 2024 Report Share Posted July 3, 2024 20 minutes ago, Widge said: Explain how they’ve given up on compensation? We offered him a deal and he’s turned it down, therefore wherever he ends up will still be due saints compensation. Shock horror you’re making stuff up to suit your anti-saints agenda right now. I bow to your superior knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maskrey Posted July 3, 2024 Report Share Posted July 3, 2024 1 hour ago, Linky said: Tony Sibbick and Nathaniel Atkinson have been made available at Hearts. Wonder if Levein is using his contacts to make enquiries. They are up for sale. Sibbick will cost around 150K and Atkinson who is an Australian internationalist around 350K. I don’t think we will have this sort of money to spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maskrey Posted July 3, 2024 Report Share Posted July 3, 2024 39 minutes ago, blueheaven said: One of our issues under Davidson was the imbalance of the squad and I'm a bit worried we still haven't escaped that. On paper it looks like we have too many midfielders yet I'd still say we need to sign at least one experienced CM who is good enough to start every week. In fact I think the absolute bare minimum we need is two central defenders, one left-back and one central midfielder. All of them need to have some experience behind them, be a good age and be better than the current options in those positions. And in addition to that at least one of them needs to be captain material. And on top of all that I'm still not convinced we've sorted out our lack of width. Those are some huge boxes we still need to tick and I know there's still a while to go but I'd hoped that by this stage we'd be sorted out in at least a couple of those areas. Just for comparison - last year we didn't sign Mitov until 14th July, Jephcott until 21st July and Matt Smith until 5th August. There are very few players in that squad who we can really trust and say they will be a minimum 6/10 every week. Defence and midfield are a particular concern. If you look at the squad I would say there is a maximum of 3 players there who would get a start at Ross County. There is time yet but that is a humbling thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE LARK SAINT Posted July 3, 2024 Report Share Posted July 3, 2024 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Cagey said: I bow to your superior knowledge. It's not superior knowledge Its common sense Edited July 3, 2024 by THE LARK SAINT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.B.B:- Adz Posted July 3, 2024 Report Share Posted July 3, 2024 1 hour ago, Maskrey said: There are very few players in that squad who we can really trust and say they will be a minimum 6/10 every week. Defence and midfield are a particular concern. If you look at the squad I would say there is a maximum of 3 players there who would get a start at Ross County. There is time yet but that is a humbling thought. And you’d be happy if we had players who were regularly a 6/10? Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted July 3, 2024 Report Share Posted July 3, 2024 Folks, there is plenty of time before the end of the window. It’s very rare that we’ve signed many players by this point. We’ll have 2 centre backs and a left back at least to come. I expect a centre midfielder and maybe a GK too, possibly a right back. So far we’ve signed the squad players. Saintdunc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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