Killie V Saints 11/8/24 15:00

[rik2304]

Hopefully this can be a bit of a welcome distraction from the off field stuff. 

[garydavidson]

23 minutes ago, rik2304 said:

Hopefully this can be a bit of a welcome distraction from the off field stuff. 

That will very much depend on who they put on the field. 

This game will really show us the level we are currently at and hopefully the team continues to improve on the more encouraging performance areas of the Aberdeen game. 

I would be hopeful that Twitter Cami is replaced by Sprangler.

[rik2304]

9 minutes ago, garydavidson said:

That will very much depend on who they put on the field. 

This game will really show us the level we are currently at and hopefully the team continues to improve on the more encouraging performance areas of the Aberdeen game. 

I would be hopeful that Twitter Cami is replaced by Sprangler.

It'll be tough as Killie will be keen to bounce back after their loss at Parkhead.

Not expecting Cami to be on the pitch.

[pezza70]

Will be interesting to see if we go ultra conservative with our formation or have a crack with two upfront.

Wonder if he will start with Kirk this time upfront?

[SlickDT]

I would be happy with Neilson in for McLelland in the centre of defence and Keijtens into right side.

Sprangler in for MacPherson for footballing reasons.

Leave the rest of the team as it is.

[garydavidson]

1 hour ago, rik2304 said:

It'll be tough as Killie will be keen to bounce back after their loss at Parkhead.

Not expecting Cami to be on the pitch.

Killie also have a European game this week, not sure if they really make too much of a difference when we are the team that looks unfit.

I don't get to see many games but noticed the 1st 11 being taken through a warm up at the start of the second half, has that always been the case?

[Gekko]

44 minutes ago, SlickDT said:

I would be happy with Neilson in for McLelland in the centre of defence and Keijtens into right side.

Sprangler in for MacPherson for footballing reasons.

Leave the rest of the team as it is.

That's pretty much what I was going to say, so you've saved me the bother. Cheers! 👍

I don't know what the story is with Keltjens though. Was his absence explained the other night?

If he's injured then it probably goes to a back three. Then you have the possibility of Sanders against his old team, or Essel getting a chance in defence or midfield.

5 minutes ago, garydavidson said:

Killie also have a European game this week, not sure if they really make too much of a difference when we are the team that looks unfit.

I'm hoping that the European games will take a bit of a toll on them, like they have done for other teams, us included.

This could hopefully be a good time to face them.

[Northern saint]

These are the games we have to approach positively.  Kilmarnock over achieved so may well return to bottom six.  Plastic pitch will dictate some questions.  Wright, Clark.

For me, Olufunwa for McClelland.  Keljtins for Neilson, Sprangler for defensive midfielder.  No Keljtins then Steven for Wright.  

If only one up front, P45 for Levein.  We have no defence so we need to score.  Failure to understand that shows the management don’t see our frailties.  

[garydavidson]

1 minute ago, Northern saint said:

Kilmarnock over achieved so may well return to bottom six. 

I don't think it is ever fair to say a team over achieved. They finished where they did on merit just as we did.

[Valakari oh oh]

22 minutes ago, Northern saint said:

These are the games we have to approach positively.  Kilmarnock over achieved so may well return to bottom six.  Plastic pitch will dictate some questions.  Wright, Clark.

For me, Olufunwa for McClelland.  Keljtins for Neilson, Sprangler for defensive midfielder.  No Keljtins then Steven for Wright.  

If only one up front, P45 for Levein.  We have no defence so we need to score.  Failure to understand that shows the management don’t see our frailties.  

Agree with this defence line up and Parker on the bench. We need to see if he can handle minutes in the top flight or get him out on loan. 

[Saintdunc]

If Sprangler does not start then it is pretty obvious Levein is not a fan of his. 

[RandomGuy]

Still baffled at why people think Olufunwa has any chance of player, or is good enough.

[SlickDT]

7 minutes ago, RandomGuy said:

Still baffled at why people think Olufunwa has any chance of player, or is good enough.

I know its far from what should be the measuring stick of whether someone will make it as a player or not, but I thought he looked a better player than Sanders up north against Huntly.

That said Jack looked decent when coming om against Aberdeen, so maybe I judged him far too quickly 🤷🏼‍♂️

[Stumpy1949]

30 minutes ago, SlickDT said:

I know its far from what should be the measuring stick of whether someone will make it as a player or not, but I thought he looked a better player than Sanders up north against Huntly.

That said Jack looked decent when coming om against Aberdeen, so maybe I judged him far too quickly 🤷🏼‍♂️

At least you waited to see him play before you judged him. 

[RandomGuy]

39 minutes ago, SlickDT said:

I know its far from what should be the measuring stick of whether someone will make it as a player or not, but I thought he looked a better player than Sanders up north against Huntly.

That said Jack looked decent when coming om against Aberdeen, so maybe I judged him far too quickly 🤷🏼‍♂️

Think friendlies are a false test in a way. Most of young players looked fine in friendlies, even against Dunfermline, last season, then struggled when competitive games arrived.

[Cagey]

2 hours ago, Northern saint said:

These are the games we have to approach positively.  Kilmarnock over achieved so may well return to bottom six.  Plastic pitch will dictate some questions.  Wright, Clark.

For me, Olufunwa for McClelland.  Keljtins for Neilson, Sprangler for defensive midfielder.  No Keljtins then Steven for Wright.  

If only one up front, P45 for Levein.  We have no defence so we need to score.  Failure to understand that shows the management don’t see our frailties.  

If Olufunwa isn't even on the bench then he along with May are the two players Levein wants rid of.

[Cleveland-Saint]

Love to see Kirk get more game time, he's a complete menace and looks hungry as hell

[The Kinross Saint]

£30 is outrageous.

[GORDON76]

Especially on a plastic pitch. Killie physio must be busy dealing with the skint knees of Kennedy and Armstrong with all their diving!!

[Thundercat]

2 hours ago, RandomGuy said:

Think friendlies are a false test in a way. Most of young players looked fine in friendlies, even against Dunfermline, last season, then struggled when competitive games arrived.

Random guy, what did this boy do to you😂

You are hating on this boy 101% name all his bad games. I thought he was alright last year. Yeah he played in the games before the strikers came back or bought but you are hating. Relax man and have a drink 🥃 

[california_saintee]

Is Sprangler really a natural replacement for MacPherson? I haven't seen him spray many passes out of touch, and give up on his man-marking duties as someone floats by.

[RandomGuy]

Just now, Thundercat said:

Random guy, what did this boy do to you😂

You are hating on this boy 101% name all his bad games. I thought he was alright last year. Yeah he played in the games before the strikers came back or bought but you are hating. Relax man and have a drink 🥃 

Nothing at all. I'm also not hating on him, I'm just confused about why people have decided he's up to it, as its come up on almost every thread this Summer based on almost nothing.

I think he has a huge amount of potential but badly needs to be first choice for 30+ games, and I don't think doing that for us in the top flight would be best for that.

I can see him going to the English 6th/7th tier, playing every week, and working his way up to a very decent level down there.

[RandomGuy]

1 minute ago, california_saintee said:

Is Sprangler really a natural replacement for MacPherson? I haven't seen him spray many passes out of touch, and give up on his man-marking duties as someone floats by.

He wouldn't need to be if you put Carey in there too.

Sprangle, Smith, Carey, is probably the CM 3 we should be playing? Essel looks very raw still.

Edited August 8, 2024 by RandomGuy

[Muirton Saint]

1 hour ago, Cagey said:

If Olufunwa isn't even on the bench then he along with May are the two players Levein wants rid of.

Pretty sure Levein already confirmed this in a courier interview. 

[Thundercat]

22 minutes ago, RandomGuy said:

Nothing at all. I'm also not hating on him, I'm just confused about why people have decided he's up to it, as its come up on almost every thread this Summer based on almost nothing.

I think he has a huge amount of potential but badly needs to be first choice for 30+ games, and I don't think doing that for us in the top flight would be best for that.

I can see him going to the English 6th/7th tier, playing every week, and working his way up to a very decent level down there.

He did his bits at centre back last year and thought he looked better there than at right back, doesn’t make rash tackles and only really caught out by Rangers. I’m only going by what I saw. At the moment you are all opinion and emotion but no facts Random 🤷‍♂️