Next St Johnstone Manager 2024

[Tattie-bogle]

Feels to me if the likes of levein was spending all his time watching videos etc then that brings up two points

Kirk is 100% culpable in all this arguably more so than levein and should be gone as soon as the ink is dry

And second just what is Gus McPherson's role day to day

[Saintdunc]

This is certainly left field for us! Well impressed if this comes off.

So, if a work permit is still required will he be allowed to sit in the stand and communicate with Kirk/Cleland on the touchline, or would that be illegal?

[KinrossSaint]

If Valakari does become our manager, credit to the board. 

a fresh approach with a style of play. For years I felt we didn’t have an identity. 
 

COYS

[Cagey]

Worries me that he is willing to accept existing coaching staff, must be desperate for the job.

It worries me more that we want him to accept the existing coaching staff. Surely not penny pinching again.

As Sixties says keep Clelland in the interest of his knowledge of the club and help the manager settle in but Kirk must go. It was shown in the last 2 games he was part of the problem. 

To basically play the same team in the last two games as the previous few games shows he was happy with selection , surely he could have tried something different even though he hadn't too many options thanks to the actions of his ex partner.

Kirk MUST go.

[Stumpy1949]

49 minutes ago, Tattie-bogle said:

Feels to me if the likes of levein was spending all his time watching videos etc then that brings up two points

Kirk is 100% culpable in all this arguably more so than levein and should be gone as soon as the ink is dry

And second just what is Gus McPherson's role day to day

He is purely clerical nothing to do with the playing side people get confused because he came from a football playing background. 

[Saintdunc]

25 minutes ago, Cagey said:

Worries me that he is willing to accept existing coaching staff, must be desperate for the job.

It worries me more that we want him to accept the existing coaching staff. Surely not penny pinching again.

 

Did I not read, in previous jobs he has had, that he likes to keep the coaches already in post until he makes his mind up.

As for penny pinching I will wait until the guy is in post before passing comment!

Then the last few miserable seasons will be history.

[blueheaven]

1 hour ago, garydavidson said:

Sounds like Kirk and Cleland will be there initially, strange if he doesn't take any coaches with him initially though?

He's moved around quite a bit so that could back up the suggestion that he doesn't really have his own established 'team' of coaches who he prefers to works with. Sounds like he generally prefers to give the existing people a chance. If Kirk's staying though you'd certainly think his role will have to change as he'll no longer be in charge of training in the way he was. And if Kirk wants to be a manager he's probably already applying for jobs elsewhere anyway, as there's no chance that's happening for him at Saints now. I suppose we'll never know if there truly was any plan at some point for Kirk to be Levein's successor, but if there was then I'm very glad that didn't play out.

I wonder if Valakari might have coaching contacts over here from his playing days in the UK who he might want to bring to the club in the long term.

[HertsAgain]

Alec Cleland has been at Saints for ages and is a big part of the success we had under Wright - I'd be perfectly happy to see him stay.  In fact, I'd argue that he really is now the only link to "the past" and what our club is capable of.  For me his ability has never really been in question.

However, Andy Kirk came as a package with Levein as far as I can tell.

Edited October 1, 2024 by HertsAgain

[Nat King Goals]

35 minutes ago, blueheaven said:

I wonder if Valakari might have coaching contacts over here from his playing days in the UK who he might want to bring to the club in the long term.

I recall an article fairly recently from Sergei Baltacha saying that he would like to return to help Saints in the future as family commitments would allow for this.

Can't recall if Sergei and Valakarai would've crossed paths during their playing careers in Scotland, but would be fantastic to have Sergei as defensive coach at Saints.

[rik2304]

10 minutes ago, Nat King Goals said:

I recall an article fairly recently from Sergei Baltacha saying that he would like to return to help Saints in the future as family commitments would allow for this.

Can't recall if Sergei and Valakarai would've crossed paths during their playing careers in Scotland, but would be fantastic to have Sergei as defensive coach at Saints.

Sergei, Maldini and Bobby Moore couldn't sort out these huddies. 

[johndb]

Yes walk on music Ride Of The Valkries, or The Immigrant Song ?

[Willie Peat]

27 minutes ago, Nat King Goals said:

I recall an article fairly recently from Sergei Baltacha saying that he would like to return to help Saints in the future as family commitments would allow for this.

Can't recall if Sergei and Valakarai would've crossed paths during their playing careers in Scotland, but would be fantastic to have Sergei as defensive coach at Saints.

I think Sergie's grandson is in the Saints youth squad.

[Willie Peat]

6 minutes ago, Willie Peat said:

I think Sergie's grandson is in the Saints youth squad.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/11214558/scottish-football-legend-grandson-premiership-baltacha-st-johsntone/#:~:text=Baltacha joined St Johnstone in 1990 and is re

[dave mc]

Simo’s middle name is Johannes,so SJ Valakari,it’s fate,I tell you 💙

[blueheaven]

1 hour ago, Nat King Goals said:

I recall an article fairly recently from Sergei Baltacha saying that he would like to return to help Saints in the future as family commitments would allow for this.

Can't recall if Sergei and Valakarai would've crossed paths during their playing careers in Scotland, but would be fantastic to have Sergei as defensive coach at Saints.

I see Sergei as being a bit like Nick Dasovic in that he's someone who it always seemed might end up finding his way back here at one point or another, but it's never happened and probably won't happen now. Of the two I'd have loved to see Dasovic back on the coaching staff as he has such a strong CV and seems to continually just walk into one good job after another.

All a bit pie in the sky anyway and I'm sure Valakari will have completely different names in mind if/when the time comes to add to the coaching set-up.

Andy Kirk very much clinging on by his fingernails at the moment and I'd be amazed if that continues into the long term.

[Linky]

I think people are being hard on Kirk. He's not been a manager at any level near this before and is probably completely out of his depth. There is no reason that, under the right leadership, he can't be a perfectly good assistant manager.

[RandomGuy]

Aye I don't think there's much point getting het up about Kirk, really.

If he's kept around it'll be in a much lesser role than Levein had him in, and it'll likely see him away to the next lower league job he can get as manager. Valakari doesn't seem to f**k about either so if he doesn't want him there then that'll happen.

He'll probably just want to come in, get settled and start moving things his own way, including coaching wise, once he's given those at the club a chance.

[pezza70]

What odds Kirk walks once our new gaffer comes in?

I would really like to know who it was who found Valakari and recommended him to our club, whoever it was has pulled one out of left field.

[rik2304]

12 minutes ago, pezza70 said:

What odds Kirk walks once our new gaffer comes in?

I would really like to know who it was who found Valakari and recommended him to our club, whoever it was has pulled one out of left field.

He might very well have applied.

[HertsAgain]

1 hour ago, Linky said:

I think people are being hard on Kirk. He's not been a manager at any level near this before and is probably completely out of his depth. There is no reason that, under the right leadership, he can't be a perfectly good assistant manager.

That's a fair point I guess.  You could argue that he's had Levein as his mentor so far - whatever that says about either him or Levein.  You'd probably hope that he's treated professionally and with respect however it turns out - you don't want a certain member of the playing staff being affected by what happens.

[dave mc]

Simo arriving in 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿about now 🤞🤞

[templeofsaints]

52 minutes ago, dave mc said:

Simo arriving in 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿about now 🤞🤞

Ryanair flight from Riga touched down 1622. 

[bankfoot saint]

Confirmed 

[KinrossSaint]

[saintee in exile]

Don't know anything about the guy but he has an exotic name!