Next St Johnstone Manager 2024

[Gekko]

I'm never convinced that bringing in family members is a good idea.

From my experience, in various industries, they're rarely either welcomed nor respected.

I'm not sure I would want to do that anyway. Be seen to only be employed because of who you're the offspring of.

Hopefully this is different of course.

I'll be delighted to be wrong if he turns out to be a coaching superstar.

[rik2304]

Doesn't do Ancelotti any harm.

[Graeme S]

Kirk & Son? 😂🤷‍♀️

[Tattie-bogle]

St Johnstone & sons

St johnsons

[Linky]

Tbf, if he’s as successful as baby Kirk, I’ll be happy 

[Muirton Saint]

Don't see much of a problem with family coaching together. They'll know how each other work and helps current staff with transitioning to Simos training routine.

[RandomGuy]

A lot will depend on what he's actually doing.

[Gekko]

I noticed that Airdrie are having a bad season to put it mildly.

I'm very glad that we didn't go down the McCabe route.

I thought he was untested and it seems that this might be the case.

[Linky]

I’m interested to know what people’s assessment of Simo is right now. I think we looked full of energy and endeavour for the first few games, and I thought that might be enough to get us through. He always spoke positively and had a soundbite. The interview yesterday, Simi looked like Levein, as that seems to have drained away. Yesterday reminded me of how we played under MacLean.

We definitely need to back the manager in January, but equally I’m worried that his two signings of Douglas and Mikulic haven’t been great. I do think he’s managed to bring the best out of Sanders, Sprangler and Kirk though, who you could build a team around next season.

It feels like the players are being let down by individual bad decision making.

What I do find interesting is, and that’s football, is that people are crying out for the mistakes made by previous managers - why not play 5 at the back, start Fran, bring May back, etc.

[RandomGuy]

1 minute ago, Linky said:

I’m interested to know what people’s assessment of Simo is right now. I think we looked full of energy and endeavour for the first few games, and I thought that might be enough to get us through. He always spoke positively and had a soundbite. The interview yesterday, Simi looked like Levein, as that seems to have drained away. Yesterday reminded me of how we played under MacLean.

We definitely need to back the manager in January, but equally I’m worried that his two signings of Douglas and Mikulic haven’t been great. I do think he’s managed to bring the best out of Sanders, Sprangler and Kirk though, who you could build a team around next season.

It feels like the players are being let down by individual bad decision making.

What I do find interesting is, and that’s football, is that people are crying out for the mistakes made by previous managers - why not play 5 at the back, start Fran, bring May back, etc.

He took charge of his first games less than 2 months ago.

It's absolutely pointless judging him at all yet.

He's trying his best to find a way of playing that gives a side with no wide players, no physicality, and no ability to soak up pressure, a chance of winning games. It's not working but the quality of player is so low nothing likely would.

[pezza70]

We should of been relegated the last two years with our lack of goals, he has inherited a championship level team with a few players who are top flight level.

We look like we are heading to the championship unless we can pull 3 or 4 rabbits out of a hat in the upcoming window.

Unless we pay overs what player would join us willingly right now?

[Aitchy]

Whilst he can’t be immune from criticism, we need to give him time to build his own squad. He has inherited a really poor, unbalanced squad which he will need at least two transfers windows to try and turn around and mould into a squad that is capable of playing in his style.

His upbeat personality may only take him so far, but I would much rather have that than Levein and Davidson who almost talked the club down at every opportunity and seemed to think that us, the supporters, should just be thankful that Saints were even in the Premiership.  Whilst I don’t think it’s beneficial to get all dewy eyed about the past all the time, our successful moments and the mentality the club had under Coyle, McInnes, Lomas and Wright was as a result of them being ambitious and refusing to believe that “plucky St Johnstone”  should just be thankful for their lot.

I hope our owners back Simo in the transfer window and it’s vital that the support gets behind him as well.

 

Edited December 27, 2024 by Aitchy

[Northern saint]

I know I'll sound like a broken record but my worry is that Simo is listening to Kirk/Cleland rather than imposing himself fully.  I get it the squad leaves much to be desired but the freezing out of players or playing in the wrong position has been their way for so long.  They haven't shown they can improve players so he needs his own coaching staff.  

 

 

[Don McVicar]

Watching Simo yesterday with his arms out for half the game 

Benji not trying and Simo shaking his head 

Sidibeh not controlling a single ball as he’s got the wrong boots on and Simo looking up to the stars 

Defenders not doing simple jobs of defending 

All stuff that even if you’ve played Sunday league you need to do 

Cant take these players out and put others in cause there’s none to replace them with .

Any team no matter if its youth to World Cup winners have a decent keeper . You start from there and work your way forward . Have to have faith that your keeper is gonna make a few wonder saves not just routine. Control the six yard box . If he shouts you know he’s gonna get there . Unfortunately we don’t have that at the moment 

If he has signed a keeper then one keeper is away and Heppy is away on loan again . No need for 4 keepers 

[Linky]

1 hour ago, RandomGuy said:

He took charge of his first games less than 2 months ago.

It's absolutely pointless judging him at all yet.

He's trying his best to find a way of playing that gives a side with no wide players, no physicality, and no ability to soak up pressure, a chance of winning games. It's not working but the quality of player is so low nothing likely would.

Hmmmm….we judged MacLean enough after two more games to sack him.

Not saying in anyway we should sack Simo, but I think we can start to draw some conclusions.

[Linky]

12 minutes ago, Linky said:

Hmmmm….we judged MacLean enough after two more games to sack him.

Not saying in anyway we should sack Simo, but I think we can start to draw some conclusions.

To clarify, I would stick with him even if we finished bottom 

[RandomGuy]

30 minutes ago, Linky said:

Hmmmm….we judged MacLean enough after two more games to sack him.

Not saying in anyway we should sack Simo, but I think we can start to draw some conclusions.

MacLean was sacked/judged as much for his interview after St Mirren as anything. Managers just simply can't tell half their dressing room that they're shit and none of them will play will ever play for us again and expect to keep their job.

[Linky]

2 minutes ago, RandomGuy said:

MacLean was sacked/judged as much for his interview after St Mirren as anything. Managers just simply can't tell half their dressing room that they're shit and none of them will play will ever play for us again and expect to keep their job.

Don't disagree, just saying, most people would say you can make some judgements about a manager at this stage. Some people were wanting Levein sacked before his first game, so I think it's reasonable to have a comment or two about Simo after how many he's had

[Cagey]

Never thought that Simo could turn those limited footballers into the team we enjoyed watching for 3 or 4 games but it was high work rate and intricate triangles that required a lot more concentration and energy than just punting the ball like a hot potatoes.

Still but for a few goalkeeping and defensive errors we would not be in this position. We have to get a decent keeper and proper right back as the bare minimum in the first week of January.

[crieffsaintandy]

29 minutes ago, Cagey said:

Never thought that Simo could turn those limited footballers into the team we enjoyed watching for 3 or 4 games but it was high work rate and intricate triangles that required a lot more concentration and energy than just punting the ball like a hot potatoes.

Still but for a few goalkeeping and defensive errors we would not be in this position. We have to get a decent keeper and proper right back as the bare minimum in the first week of January.

Agree but still need some sort of pacy winger and someone from midfield who is a goal threat, teams like united and midden had that pace and look at the difference it made, we had benji letting the ball ping off him and a few stopovers, sums it up straight up the tunnel when subbed, some teamplayer! Maybe injured but doubt it!

[RandomGuy]

1 hour ago, Linky said:

Don't disagree, just saying, most people would say you can make some judgements about a manager at this stage. Some people were wanting Levein sacked before his first game, so I think it's reasonable to have a comment or two about Simo after how many he's had

There were reasonable doubts about Levein when he was hired.

A manager who'd signed one of the worst keepers in the league, built a squad full of foreign punts, and almost got his side relegated before being sacked for a foreign manager who couldn't recover the situation enough to prevent it, in his last job before us.

Funny how history repeats.

[ex-montrosesaintee]

The difference for me is that he clearly understands why we are losing games, I never got that impression from our last few managers, they just kept signing more and more useless players.  He has a genuine plan of how he wants us to play and I believe he will recruit the players to deliver it.  Certainly better than Davidson building his whole style and approach around the strengths of Jason Kerr and Ali McCann after they'd left, for two more seasons, by signing OAPs on multiple year contracts!

Also, we survived last season almost solely because of Mitov's quality.  If we had a really good keeper this season then we'd have significantly more points on the board.

I still think that with some financial backing to bring players in, Simo will bring us more success. Immediate problem for me is that the January window is not an ideal opportunity to rebuild a squad.  I fear we may be doomed this season regardless.

[MySpazz]

7 hours ago, Don McVicar said:

Watching Simo yesterday with his arms out for half the game 

Benji not trying and Simo shaking his head 

Sidibeh not controlling a single ball as he’s got the wrong boots on and Simo looking up to the stars 

Defenders not doing simple jobs of defending 

All stuff that even if you’ve played Sunday league you need to do 

Cant take these players out and put others in cause there’s none to replace them with .

Any team no matter if its youth to World Cup winners have a decent keeper . You start from there and work your way forward . Have to have faith that your keeper is gonna make a few wonder saves not just routine. Control the six yard box . If he shouts you know he’s gonna get there . Unfortunately we don’t have that at the moment 

If he has signed a keeper then one keeper is away and Heppy is away on loan again . No need for 4 keepers 

We're losing games by a goal. 

We're not holding games from a winning position

Not a registered coach, but think i know what the problem is!

[Rafa]

11 hours ago, Linky said:

We definitely need to back the manager in January, but equally I’m worried that his two signings of Douglas and Mikulic haven’t been great.

Douglas has barely played but looked good, Bozo has been immense. I think he will sign some good players, get the squad balance right and if he switches back to 433 we will be golden.

[dave mc]

Simo has been left with a spineless squad,I’d have at best 4 in the trenches with me, we need him to find 5 starters in January,or we’ll struggle.If he gets the right players with the right character,he’s a genius 🤞🤞