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47 minutes ago, blueheaven said:

Seriously, how could anyone not like the current league format? This is setting up a brilliant end to the season with some potentially big crowds right across the board. Bollocks to swapping this run-in for a bigger league full of nothingy mid-table matches.

Don't you get fed up playing the same teams four times, then in cups as well. Even the players are fed up of it. 

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3 hours ago, blueheaven said:

Seriously, how could anyone not like the current league format? This is setting up a brilliant end to the season with some potentially big crowds right across the board. Bollocks to swapping this run-in for a bigger league full of nothingy mid-table matches.

I do.

 

i despise the current league format.

 

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12 hours ago, Gort said:

Don't you get fed up playing the same teams four times, then in cups as well. Even the players are fed up of it. 

It's probably the one down-side of the format, but it's still by far the best format I've seen proposed. 

Bringing Ayr/Partick/Morton into the league is not going to improve the quality of the league. Those clubs spend their time trapped in the lower leagues for good reason.

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Happy enough with the fixtures. That first weekend looks crucial. Dundee at Hearts, Ross County at Killie whilst we play Motherwell away. If we could get a win in that game, it would hopefully allow us to close the gap and build momentum going into two homes games.

Ultimately though, if we continue to struggle to score and make constant errors, we are going to be down. I was so disappointed with how lethargic we looked at Tannadice on Saturday. We are going to need to try and replicate the energy, commitment and concentration that we displayed in the Celtic game for the remaining five league games. Really need one or more of our strikers to step up.

 

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1 hour ago, blueheaven said:

It's probably the one down-side of the format, but it's still by far the best format I've seen proposed. 

Bringing Ayr/Partick/Morton into the league is not going to improve the quality of the league. Those clubs spend their time trapped in the lower leagues for good reason.

How arrogant.

 

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13 minutes ago, blueheaven said:

What's arrogant about it? If you introduce poorer teams into a league, the chances are you're going to make the league poorer.

The last time we were in that league it took us 7 years to get out .

would you say the same about us when were in that league ?

You got the I am okay fuqe the rest .

dont even know where the club comes from .

 

 

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9 minutes ago, slf said:

The last time we were in that league it took us 7 years to get out .

would you say the same about us when were in that league ?

You got the I am okay fuqe the rest .

dont even know where the club comes from .

 

Yes I would have said the same about us when we were in that league, because for a lot of the time when we were down there we were awful. We didn't get promoted for ages because we didn't deserve to get promoted. If you're not very good, you tend to not be in the top division. That's how leagues work. I don't get what your problem is with acknowledging that?

I know plenty about where we've come from thanks, and I know that what we've achieved has been achieved on merit. I'm not saying Ayr and Morton should be prevented from achieving those things too. What I am saying is that they haven't achieved very much at all for decade after decade because they're not very good.

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7 hours ago, blueheaven said:

It's probably the one down-side of the format, but it's still by far the best format I've seen proposed. 

Bringing Ayr/Partick/Morton into the league is not going to improve the quality of the league. Those clubs spend their time trapped in the lower leagues for good reason.

Yeah but if these smaller clubs were involved in a bigger league they would earn more revenue and be able to afford better players and in time become better teams?

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26 minutes ago, saintee in exile said:

Yeah but if these smaller clubs were involved in a bigger league they would earn more revenue and be able to afford better players and in time become better teams?

There are quite a few clubs in lower leagues with a larger support than us especially if they are doing well.

I do think it is a bit arrogant to think a 22 team league with us in it is better than a 14 team league with Falkirk and Dunfermline or Patrick etc in it.

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16 hours ago, saintee in exile said:

Yeah but if these smaller clubs were involved in a bigger league they would earn more revenue and be able to afford better players and in time become better teams?

But what would the format be to facilitate this? Because if you're reducing the number of home games that teams get against the Old Firm, and you're also reducing the number of Old Firm derbies, then all of the clubs are going to get lower average home crowds and they're also going to get less TV money. So revenue across the board is going to go down, not up. And you're very probably also running the risk of increasing the gap between the OF and everyone else. And you're possibly also looking at ticket increases as clubs try to recoup what they've lost from other avenues.

I absolutely hate that our league always has to revolve around the Old Firm issue but we can't just pretend that issue doesn't exist and isn't of importance to clubs.

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15 hours ago, Cagey said:

There are quite a few clubs in lower leagues with a larger support than us especially if they are doing well.

I do think it is a bit arrogant to think a 22 team league with us in it is better than a 14 team league with Falkirk and Dunfermline or Patrick etc in it.

How do you see a 14-team league working?

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Cagey said:

Not worked that out yet. Was just saying there are potentially bigger supported teams than us that could step up.

Definitely don't want to return to 10 team league to help OF.

The thing is though, a bigger league could actually help the OF more than a smaller league. You could easily end up with a scenario where the OF keep getting stronger because their home crowds will stay large regardless of league size. Meanwhile, the rest of us will have reduced number of big crowds and increased number of small crowds. More clubs at the bottom end of the league could also increase the number of cricket-score whippings dealt out by the OF. You're potentially advocating a change that makes the gap between the OF and everyone else bigger, not smaller.

I don't dispute that there are clubs lower down the leagues who could get bigger crowds than us. But like I said, there are reasons why some of these clubs have been stuck in the lower leagues for a long time.

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I think as a fan, a larger league would be beneficial.  The teams would have to be full-time, run age group and reserve teams so that there is more opportunity to bring players through.  

The present system rewards the same approach.  TW v Simo?  Playing each other so often we try and mitigate the tactics, strengths of the other and see few new wrinkles in pattern.  

With more teams, only playing each other twice in the league, in my opinion, would encourage experimentation in tactics as there will be dead games towards the end of the season.  It would allow youngsters to be given a run to enable them to develop.  

Rose coloured glasses probably but I see youngsters playing better football, being better coached at 13-15 than in many Premier teams.  

As BlueHeaven says, it all comes down to money at the end.  If the figures could match up, increased crowds from the likes of Falkirk, Dunfermline and the freshness in the game, perhaps.  

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