GORDON76 Posted May 19, 2025 Report Posted May 19, 2025 Yep, straight out of the McInnes, Goodwin and Naismith school of diving, feigning injury and general cheating. Quote
Cagey Posted May 19, 2025 Report Posted May 19, 2025 1 hour ago, rik2304 said: He's a number 2. Thought you didn't like abusive language 😅. pezza70 1 Quote
Northern saint Posted May 19, 2025 Report Posted May 19, 2025 With hopefully a clear out of the coaching staff as they've shown no ability to improve a player, more the opposite, would Fox now released from Hearts be a worthwhile shout. He did put Shankland back into a position he thrived in. That would be a major improvement with us, having people play to their strengths. Quote
rik2304 Posted May 19, 2025 Report Posted May 19, 2025 2 hours ago, Cagey said: Thought you didn't like abusive language 😅. Only when it's from Steve Lomas and directed at fans. Quote
dunblanemike Posted May 20, 2025 Report Posted May 20, 2025 15 hours ago, Northern saint said: With hopefully a clear out of the coaching staff as they've shown no ability to improve a player, more the opposite, would Fox now released from Hearts be a worthwhile shout. He did put Shankland back into a position he thrived in. That would be a major improvement with us, having people play to their strengths. I would suggest McPake and Steven counter your first point and I hope that with no injuries at start of season all players would be in their natural positions. We shall see. blueheaven, Saintdunc and PerthSaint01 3 Quote
Maskrey Posted May 20, 2025 Report Posted May 20, 2025 We should look to bring in Robbie Neilson and Liam Fox. Neilson knows what is required to get out of that league and has operated well at the top end of the Prem. R.B.B:- Adz 1 Quote
CAH Posted May 20, 2025 Report Posted May 20, 2025 12 minutes ago, Maskrey said: We should look to bring in Robbie Neilson and Liam Fox. Neilson knows what is required to get out of that league and has operated well at the top end of the Prem. Flogging a dead horse mate! Just accept that the current manager will be here 'til c. October MySpazz and Hendo 2 Quote
Maskrey Posted May 20, 2025 Report Posted May 20, 2025 2 hours ago, CAH said: Flogging a dead horse mate! Just accept that the current manager will be here 'til c. October Yes and when he is sacked during the season it will then more than likely be too late to recover. We need to bounce back up immediately as the longer we stay down there the harder it will be to get out. Quote
RandomGuy Posted May 20, 2025 Report Posted May 20, 2025 5 hours ago, Maskrey said: We should look to bring in Robbie Neilson and Liam Fox. Neilson knows what is required to get out of that league and has operated well at the top end of the Prem. 2 hours ago, Maskrey said: Yes and when he is sacked during the season it will then more than likely be too late to recover. We need to bounce back up immediately as the longer we stay down there the harder it will be to get out. Worth mentioning Neilson, the perfect promotion specialist who we rip up 8 months of work for and restart the entire clubs process to hire, didn't get United promoted at the first attempt and only did on the second because they paid more than Premiership sides for Shankland. R.B.B:- Adz 1 Quote
Hendo Posted May 20, 2025 Report Posted May 20, 2025 Disappointed there haven't been any "Messi spotted on the High Street" posts yet. Sure he's one of the most talented players to ever grace the field, but can he do it in a midweek game at Gayfield in February? I'd like to find out. Quote
blueheaven Posted May 20, 2025 Report Posted May 20, 2025 2 hours ago, Maskrey said: Yes and when he is sacked during the season it will then more than likely be too late to recover. We need to bounce back up immediately as the longer we stay down there the harder it will be to get out. But isn't that the case whatever we do? Keeping Simo might not work out, but appointing a new manager is a gamble that might not work out either. Hypothetically, if we were to sack Simo right now and appoint Neilson, but then the first few months of the season turn out to be a disaster, would you sack Neilson in October? FWIW I don't really see much to get excited about in Neilson. He's had some great opportunities given to him by walking into some really appealing management jobs, but they don't seem to generally end very well. And bear in mind he rated Cammy MacPherson enough to take him out to the States. That in itself should set alarm bells ringing. GMac, lindz105, rik2304 and 1 other 2 2 Quote
PSJ.84 Posted May 20, 2025 Report Posted May 20, 2025 It should get him into the Hall of Fame, though. blueheaven, stevensan and garydavidson 1 2 Quote
MySpazz Posted May 21, 2025 Report Posted May 21, 2025 (edited) Need a first friendly announcement! Jeanfield Swifts @ Riverside, testimonial for May £25 a ticket Edited May 21, 2025 by MySpazz Quote
RandomGuy Posted May 21, 2025 Report Posted May 21, 2025 Valakari’s summer signing strategy will take into account the physical demands of the Scottish game as he seeks to eradicate a McDiarmid Park “softness” that undermined their top-flight survival fight. “That will feed into my recruitment,” he said. “You saw we had footballers but maybe didn’t have that physical presence, especially towards the end of the season, when we were losing our big defenders. “We were a very small team. I mean, just the physical size.” Valakari criticising himself today and talking about what he got wrong. Says he under-estimated the league and how important second balls are, because its not a huge thing in other leagues hes managed in and scottish football when he played in it. Also under-estimated the need for large physical players. Felt he'd improved things on both fronts until injuries stole the defence, and will work on getting more physical players and winning second balls more in training and through recruitment. Cleveland-Saint and Willie Peat 2 Quote
SlickDT Posted May 21, 2025 Report Posted May 21, 2025 3 minutes ago, RandomGuy said: Valakari’s summer signing strategy will take into account the physical demands of the Scottish game as he seeks to eradicate a McDiarmid Park “softness” that undermined their top-flight survival fight. “That will feed into my recruitment,” he said. “You saw we had footballers but maybe didn’t have that physical presence, especially towards the end of the season, when we were losing our big defenders. “We were a very small team. I mean, just the physical size.” Valakari criticising himself today and talking about what he got wrong. Says he under-estimated the league and how important second balls are, because its not a huge thing in other leagues hes managed in and scottish football when he played in it. Also under-estimated the need for large physical players. Felt he'd improved things on both fronts until injuries stole the defence, and will work on getting more physical players and winning second balls more in training and through recruitment. This is encouraging. A manager highlighting his lessons, which make total sense. sixties saintee 1 Quote
Linky Posted May 22, 2025 Report Posted May 22, 2025 Good that he’s being open about what he got wrong, but did he not think to ask his backroom staff for some advice. They have years of experience playing and coaching in this league. Seems a bit odd. Cagey 1 Quote
RandomGuy Posted May 22, 2025 Report Posted May 22, 2025 36 minutes ago, Linky said: Good that he’s being open about what he got wrong, but did he not think to ask his backroom staff for some advice. They have years of experience playing and coaching in this league. Seems a bit odd. Managers live and die by the decisions they make, so have to trust themselves and their beliefs. Quote
GMac Posted May 22, 2025 Report Posted May 22, 2025 Maybe some of his signings will reflect, just what is required, sign players who will be able to get us out of the championship Ginger Bakers rebel army, sixties saintee and Coltrane 3 Quote
blueheaven Posted May 22, 2025 Report Posted May 22, 2025 1 hour ago, Linky said: Good that he’s being open about what he got wrong, but did he not think to ask his backroom staff for some advice. They have years of experience playing and coaching in this league. Seems a bit odd. I'm sure they input into decisions but ultimately he's taking the responsibility here, which I'd say is a good thing. Wouldn't be a good look if he was to say he got things wrong but it was Cleland or Kirk's fault because they told him a load of bollocks. Years of experience playing and coaching in this league doesn't mean getting everything right, as we saw in great evidence with Craig Levein. Quote
Northern saint Posted May 22, 2025 Report Posted May 22, 2025 Simo cleaned out many of the players as they "learned to lose", a culture bred by the failed coaching staff. Until they leave and are replaced, their replacements will learn the same culture. The stink will just continue. Would Fox now released from Hearts be a worthwhile shout. He did put Shankland back into a position he thrived in. That would be a major improvement with us, having people play to their strengths. Quote
Kat71 Posted May 22, 2025 Report Posted May 22, 2025 15 minutes ago, Northern saint said: Simo cleaned out many of the players as they "learned to lose", a culture bred by the failed coaching staff. Until they leave and are replaced, their replacements will learn the same culture. The stink will just continue. Would Fox now released from Hearts be a worthwhile shout. He did put Shankland back into a position he thrived in. That would be a major improvement with us, having people play to their strengths. Have to agree, for a number of seasons now new players have come in and look promising until our coaching staff get their hands on them and they then look very ordinary. Quote
RandomGuy Posted May 22, 2025 Report Posted May 22, 2025 20 minutes ago, Northern saint said: Simo cleaned out many of the players as they "learned to lose", a culture bred by the failed coaching staff. Until they leave and are replaced, their replacements will learn the same culture. The stink will just continue. Would Fox now released from Hearts be a worthwhile shout. He did put Shankland back into a position he thrived in. That would be a major improvement with us, having people play to their strengths. Let's sack the entire coaching staff that have seen multiple managers sacked, because they're clearly useless, and hire a member of coaching staff who's seen multiple managers sacked, because hes clearly great. ex-montrosesaintee 1 Quote
Northern saint Posted May 22, 2025 Report Posted May 22, 2025 Clearly as I, Kat71 and many others have commented over the years, players come in and appear to have something but by six or so weeks they have become crap. The common denominator are the coaching staff. If Simo has his own choices, with his enthusiasm, with the ability to improve players, it can only help. Who they may be I don't know. We all pull names out of the air as we don't see coaching staff at work. We see or in our case, see no positives from our coaching staff, how to defend, how to take set pieces. Simo has to show the board are correct to retain him. Quote
RandomGuy Posted May 22, 2025 Report Posted May 22, 2025 3 minutes ago, Northern saint said: Clearly as I, Kat71 and many others have commented over the years, players come in and appear to have something but by six or so weeks they have become crap. The common denominator are the coaching staff. If Simo has his own choices, with his enthusiasm, with the ability to improve players, it can only help. Who they may be I don't know. We all pull names out of the air as we don't see coaching staff at work. We see or in our case, see no positives from our coaching staff, how to defend, how to take set pieces. Simo has to show the board are correct to retain him. Funny how the coaching staff was never an issue under Tommy Wright. The issue is we've been panic signing shit players for half a decade. R.B.B:- Adz and Zorro's 'tache 2 Quote
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