Fred, your post regarding Dundee's youth set-up is pretty wide of the mark for a number of reasons. Kiernan, Forsyth, Elvin, Clark, Cord, Garvock, Mason and Johnstone are all still at Dens so it's hardly the whole team that have been released. Also, Kenny Cameron signed his son and half of an average Dundee West team to make up our youth team while he was there which resulted in us having an awful team.
Finally, the fact that a Dundee team missing several of it's best players humped Saints last week must tell you something about the 2 set-ups surely?