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This is going to be another battle of attrition. Familiarity and two good tacticians will make this very close unless someone from Saints lets their guard down early and then it's very difficult to see us come back if we open up and push for a leveler.

I hate to say this and even contemplate it but I can see a return tie in Perth- God save us! 

It was a pretty lame performance all round last night but lets be honest it's been coming for a while and sometimes we need a good kick up the arse to get us going again. Defending was criminal last night but we have been water tight in games before the Hearts game so hopefully this is just wee hiccup. 

If I have one serious criticism about the manager just now it is that we seem to be setting up the differently every time we go out nowadays and with the wealth of options at his disposal it's not surprising. Lets get back to a settled side and formation and try and stick to minimum changes.

34 minutes ago, THE LARK SAINT said:

So with the liklihood of Hibs appointmenting a Manager from England this week 

Are you prepared to unmask and buy me that pint in  Muirton  Suite 

Most definitely good sir; it looks like Aberdeen home in a couple of weeks if that suits you.

19 minutes ago, THE LARK SAINT said:

I by no means claim to know the man like his wife. 

But in my capacity of a group organisating Saints events and having the opportunity to meet and chat to him over a pint I can only take from those conversations what I can believe as genuine if which he comes over loud and clear as just that 

In those conversations about why he never went to Millwall ext he is quoted as saying "Why would I do that for 6 months and get the sack" 

He also mentioned teams that would be tempting and there were not very many

Obviously if Man City came in with Mega bugs it might be tempting if you want to be out of work with a big fat wad of cash but no job ie Lomas 

I'm not saying for certain he won't be tempted by, say a Hibs offer, I'm sure he would consider it

But if you have a settled squad, who are signing extensions on the promise of "The Gaffer" staying then I think that's the way he works, stability. Happy and settled home life with a team he is successfully rebuilding 

It is this along with the fact as far as I know that he hasn't even been offered the Hibs Job that he will be our Gaffer for a long time yet

I would be willing to predict that he would be 'put upstairs' in some capacity rather than leaving for better paid job he might not have a year later

Just my view on many conversations with the man himself. 

I must say very encouraging to read this.

I will with great pleasure buy you a pint if this all blows over and TW is still here. 

55 minutes ago, RandomGuy said:

Hibs could have 20000 fans every week, they won't win the league and their best chance of glory is the Scottish Cup.

The benefits of a bigger wage are offset by the dangers of joining a club that's a complete mess and who dump managers whenever they don't reach their unattainable ambitions 

So you are saying Tommy wouldn't be interested?

9 hours ago, Pat McGroin said:

I ask again... what can he achieve at Hibs that he can’t at St Johnstone?

You are downplaying our current position. People are no longer looking at us as a yo-yo club. 

Hopefully we can sustain our recent success and in turn, become a club that produces young players consistently. 

I would love to see us churn out a Stevie May and Jason Kerr every few years. 

I honestly believe that developing players like that is something that Tommy will take great joy in doing, and he can do that in Perth with no real pressure. 

He has earned a lot of leeway here, and that is no small thing in the game today. 

It never fails to amaze me the naivety of some fans; Hibs playing gash will pull attendances of 12000. It's simple economics that they have more attraction than St.Johnstone to a prospective manager even if we have our house in order and a strong squad. TW's salary will be doubled probably more and seriously this argument that he has settled lifestyle blah blah blah and wouldn't want to move is pie in the sky.

If Hibs are doing their due diligence there is a standout candidate who knows the league and has a proven track record. 

Better buckle up because if we manage to retain TW if HIbs come calling I'll be shocked!

27 minutes ago, THE LARK SAINT said:

OK done 

But we can let masks slip and drink together if it happens 

Sounds good.

3 minutes ago, sixties saintee said:

According to summarisier on Bbc Scotland we should have more there .

These guys have never been to Perth unless it's to see the old firm- how would they know the size of Perth.

7 hours ago, THE LARK SAINT said:

I would put a small wager to charity of choice that he will  show no interest in Hibs job

I hope your confidence is justified but TW will be well quoted. Lets keep the bet real; loser leaves a pint at the Muirton suite.

2 minutes ago, sixties saintee said:

Crowd 16672, 665 Saintees.

decent away support to be honest

2 hours ago, Pat McGroin said:

Tommy’s happy in Perth. 

I think he’ll be privately very pleased in the way that he’s been backed by Steve Brown, and I think it would take a decent English Club to take him away from here. 

He’d be trading a safe, stable job where he legit has a chance of another European spot for a less stable job with a slight chance of qualifying for a European spot. 

Very Naive. I have a bad feeling about this.

19 minutes ago, GMac said:

Do not see the value in retaining Kane, clearly championship at best.

Disagree strongly. Kane is good player and will develop further.

38 minutes ago, Cagey said:

Deserves it. He has been immense this season.

Completely agree. He has found a real niche for himself in this new role as roving enforcer between the defense and midfield.

Really happy about this.

great win. Didnnae make it today ( under the weather) but I'll be there on Wednesday.

50 minutes ago, Abernethy Saint said:

It’s all going terribly well. 

If someone wants to start doing the crowd, feel free. Real life has rather rudely interrupted my Saturday afternoons.

Hey. Don't go there - you always do the crowd and we need you.

4 hours ago, ss75990 said:

I would be surprised if he went back to Aberdeen. Considering he left Aberdeen after being frustrated with the lack of games he was getting to then coming to us and playing nearly every game since and now club captain. If he did leave, Aberdeen must be offering much higher wages than we are

They will that's a fact.

14 minutes ago, Lang Toon Saintee said:

I could be wrong but my understanding is that he was born in England to Scottish parents..

Good stuff- you saved my bad.

Anyway, whatever nationality he is it's another example of how our wee team and TW gets the best out of a young project who has blossomed. If I was a young decent player sitting on the bench for a "bigger" club I'd be wanting to go to Saints for game time and development.

47 minutes ago, PerthshireBoys1884 said:

He’s English tho mate doubt he’ll ever get a game for them

I think you'll find he has a Scottie dog

16 minutes ago, Cagey said:

Another good move.

When he first arrived I like many others didn't see a player there & if Eastie was fit I don't think he would have been with us long. He has turned out to be a decent defender but his value is in attacking positions where he is one of the best crossers of the ball I have seen since Fred Aitken.

Tanser has always shown glimpses of his class anytime that he got a start and now that he has become a fixture in the side you can see the confidence shinning though with his ability to glide pass players. 

I honestly think he could be an international through time - what chance having so many left sided full backs in the International set up?

2 hours ago, bankfoot saint said:

Liam Gordon contract extended till 2021 announced on twitter just now 

Outstanding news; Liam would be getting a regular first team place in most teams. Outstanding prospect.

Don't fancy this tie. We should have more than enough to handle Hamilton and you would think they have bigger fish to fry but I can see this being tricky and wouldn't be surprised if it's a draw which we could do without.

Jim Pearson

1 hour ago, Kyle said:

I'm of a similar mind as blueheaven and Shaggy Jenkins. If he's available, we can afford him and he wants to come then it makes complete sense. He's a quality player who fits into our team.

If we sign him on an 18 month deal or more, we will end up with Wright, Kennedy, Swanson, O'Halloran all signed for next season with Alston and Wotherspoon in discussions over a new deal. Outrageous options in the attacking midfield positions for a club like Saints.

I agree it would be great to have a line up for midfield options like that; I am a realist though and balancing our books would seem improbable in today's market hence my original point about MOH coming back here for the salary he would command.

33 minutes ago, The Real Saints said:

Likewise, I find your line of thinking to be quite incomprehensible. You talk about Michael O'Halloran's 'heyday' as if he wasn't playing quality football for us a mere year ago. I really doubt he has degraded into a hopeless case in the space of twelve months. Stevie May, on the other hand, is a different kettle of fish. Given the nature of his damaging injury and subsequent performances since then, it would sadly be more accurate to suggest that he may fail to capture the form of his 'heyday'. However, given certain players' propensities to reserve their best football for when they're employed by St. Johnstone FC, one must never jump to conclusions.

In the case of MOH (and Danny Swanson before him), surely it's a sensible thing to sign players who we can be pretty sure will do a good job for us? I don't really understand any thinking to the contrary. Stefan Scougall is an example of someone who we took a gamble on. By our standards, he was on a very high wage. Ultimately, his signing was a waste of time and money. There's nothing wrong with that. You win some, you lose some. As far as Tommy Wright is concerned, his recent attacking acquisitions (Kennedy, Wright and Watt) have all surpassed expectations thus far. But when there's also an opportunity to bring in a tried and tested player of attacking quality, Tommy will quite rightly be interested. Especially when you take Drey Wright's injury into account. 

Granted, MOH's Ibrox move was a blot on his copy book. But it's no secret that a large number of their supporters took against him from day one (mainly for unedifying reasons). His performances didn't set the heather alight, but he wasn't given too many opportunities to impress and he was very much treated like an outcast during the Caixinha era. He moved as far as Australia to escape their stranglehold. It hasn't worked out for him there and he now has the opportunity to restart his career in Scotland without the constraints of Rangers and the negative influence of their prejudiced fanbase.

This site is about opinions and yours differs from mine. MOH did us a turn when he came back and that's a fact but it's often overlooked he was in and out of games even if he did have a good ratio goals to games.  I'll be honest when I say MOH's petty behavior before he got his move soured me towards him. We have replaced him with two new fans favorites in Drey and Matt - let's move on. 

12 hours ago, RandomGuy said:

Poster in p&b, who spoke about the signings of Callachan and Swanson before they hit the mainstream, believes we'll be signing O'Halloran.

I can never understand the constant clamor from some Saints fans to get players who were once decent back to the club despite them failing elsewhere; May and O Halloran left to further their careers - (Good luck to them) and ultimately failed- they are certainly not the players they were in their heyday with us. I don't want either back at the club at the wages they would command. Both players will always have a special place in my heart and both were right to move on and that is what we need to do- Move on!