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I don't think it was just Ossie that was invovled in getting folks in for trails. I believe there was a few people bringing in the players. I know that the new coach Garreth and Jim Beattie do a fair bit of scouting too as well as other scouts and coaches.

it would be nice to see some homegrown talent but I agree with you too NEUTRAL at the end of the day I dont care where they are from if they are going to do the job required of them.

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I don't think it was just Ossie that was invovled in getting folks in for trails. I believe there was a few people bringing in the players. I know that the new coach Garreth and Jim Beattie do a fair bit of scouting too as well as other scouts and coaches.

it would be nice to see some homegrown talent but I agree with you too NEUTRAL at the end of the day I dont care where they are from if they are going to do the job required of them.

I also went to the park yesterday although I didn't go until just after 13.00hrs or when the U14 & U15's had been 'advertised' as taking place.

When I arrived there was a hybrid of U13 & U14's only on the pitch with the U14 & U15's having been postponed for another date.

It's interesting to read the question about how the coaches manage to get so many lads from outside Perth and majority from the West.

Really no surprise there as it is well known - and quoted in a recent conversation - that there are no decent players in Perth and that they are not streetwise or in other words not raised on the mean streets of Garthamlock and can cut it as the typical Scot's (or UK) player that plays with passion and offer a decent line in robust challenges.

The other question that should be asked is how these open trials were made known, I suspect they weren't really as I only found out through an innocuous post on another youth forum so I can only assume that the few local lads that turned up did so via word of mouth.

Was there anything advising the trials posted on this or other local forums?

I know 3 parents only found out late last week so if they hadn't been at the park then there would have been even less Perthshire boys.

We do live in a democracy and I have absolutely no issue with where players come from but I do fear that it seems the West has been targetted as a harvesting area because of hardiness and that doesn't bode well for the future of the Scottish game if all that coaches are going to do is get big and tough guys playing unnatractive football and big punts up the park: I don't care what development mantra is spouted as it is unfortunate some coaches want to win at pretty much the cost of developing flair and positive attractive flowing football.

Hopefully the words coming from Stewart Regan over the past few days - about the 'new way' - will demonstrate to coaches and players/parents alike that it is about development and not results: it's only the players, parents and some coaches that still believe results matter.

I would have liked to have seen more local lads yesterday (or maybe in future trials) as there are good players in Perth and they should get a chance but unless trials are known about locally then they won't turn up.

Again, I don't disagree with bringing players from the West but I do disagree that they are brought en-masse as I'm sure every Saints fan would like to see local lads making good but hey, at least Saints are giving it a go at those age groups so a real step in the right direction by the club and the coaching staff.

I hope they do well, and bring in some local lads at the same time and not go down the route taken by the likes of other East Coast teams who farm lads from the West and either set up facilities there or bus them through on training nights !!!

I watch developments with interest.

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"Jason Bentley" At last a man after my own heart. Brilliant!

At Saints what we get is a squad of boys who have been released by Pro Youth clubs, who are coached to "Win" and at no time are they encouraged to show individual "Flair" because this will produce mistakes, and will lose matches, and that will make the coaches look bad, and we wouldn't want that would we? As a result the 1or 2 players who have the potential to advance to a higher level will not develop, and will blend in with the rest of the boys. I have recently been watching a Pro Youth club developing their boys, and it is a delight to watch. Younger lads stepping up a year or two, NOT DOWN, the ball is rolled out from the keeper every time, and when they lose to the teams who kick and run, at no time is the result even mentioned. Often they are instructed keep the ball in their own half for periods of 10 minutes, teaching them control and possession, or perhaps every pass has to be along the ground, "Great to see" I know as a parent it is hard to see your lad being beaten, but we have to learn that in "Developmental football" RESULTS DO NOT MATTER, and that it is about the BOYS, and not THE COACHES.

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don't see that it matters where they are from tbh

I was just saying the same thing. :roll:

Speaking of west coast players I see former youth player Darren Shaw has signed for an American college soccer team.

http://youthfootballscotland.co.uk/news-a-media/featured-news/2969-vale-kid-ready-to-live-the-american-dream

Best of luck to the big Weegie.

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