101 Saint Posted April 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 In a Del appreciation thread, if someone, the same person as usual, is the only one being a d***, remove the comment. If you'd rather everyone just ignore it then do something about it, you're the admin/owner. Appreciate you can't babysit the forum, but if you're going to split a thread because 101 sidetracked it, then you should be splitting up pretty much every thread. You can't expect people not to be noised up by the Stephen Hawkins of Abertay University/Perth Hydro. Listen up, bright spark; I wasn't the first critic. You will notice that this thread starts with a question from Saintee4life. His question arose from a criticism offered by another forumer. Lot's of folk (not many on here) are unimpressed by Del. A reasonable minority were appalled by him following the Hampden debacle. He is not a rookie manager any longer. As for your questions of Beatson, that's for him to answer, but I do know that he relishes a debate. Such a shame that the experts of WAP resort to insults and childish quips because they are generally not bright enough to debate my points. The majority of you guys are a sad reflection of the intellect of Saints fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff was right!! Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Sticking to this year only: Liam on the right wing Signing Connolly Refusing to play May 4-5-1 all the fecking time against the Old Firm... except for once.... The cup semi! Failure to treat Swankie and Fil with an even hand Continually playing Murray and Jody when not fit Failure to sign a good goalie in the summer Failure to secure a good goalie in January Failure to allow Peanut and Irvine to go on loan as per their requests Restoring Dinky to the first team Hanging onto McLean! I'll agree with you on all the above points but overall he's done okay. But the biggest let down was the semi final. Still pisses me off when I think about it. As much as i've enjoyed so many games with Saints (especially this season) that game is right up there with any let down i've witnessed following Saints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike180279 Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 I'll agree with you on all the above points but overall he's done okay. But the biggest let down was the semi final. Still pisses me off when I think about it. As much as i've enjoyed so many games with Saints (especially this season) that game is right up there with any let down i've witnessed following Saints.Side by Side with the challenge cup game against Stranraer!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff was right!! Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Side by Side with the challenge cup game against Stranraer!!! I blame the weather that day, it was bloody awful. The semi this year was different, a chance of a major cup final was waiting until Del fecked up badly that night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Saint Posted April 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Still no defence of my criticisms. Gosh, what a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Still no defence of my criticisms. Gosh, what a surprise. It;s not a reflection on our intellect or knowledge of the game etc it's just that folk just can't be bothered arguing with you any more 101. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff was right!! Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 It;s not a reflection on our intellect or knowledge of the game etc it's just that folk just can't be bothered arguing with you any more 101. I'm not arguing with 101 on this one as I agree with most of his points (not all) on this subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 It;s not a reflection on our intellect or knowledge of the game etc it's just that folk just can't be bothered arguing with you any more 101. Correct! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Adama Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Still no defence of my criticisms. Gosh, what a surprise. What's the point? The only defence you really need is facts. League placing and results in our first season back in the spl is evidence enough for the reasonable saints fans. It's the clowns with delusions of grandeur who seem to have misplaced memories of the last seven years campaigns. What we have achieved is admirable and an improvement on the last seven years worth of rubbish. Del has punched above his weight for being a rookie boss and deserves credit, not an egomaniacs flawed critique. You can't argue with facts. Yet you continue to whilst belittling anyone with an alternative opinion. That's your perogative and fair enough. But you can't get all biscuit arsed when someone says something that doesn't meet your own expectations. That just makes you look foolish, particulary when they have shown you respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Saint Posted April 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 (edited) What's the point? The only defence you really need is facts. League placing and results in our first season back in the spl is evidence enough for the reasonable saints fans. It's the clowns with delusions of grandeur who seem to have misplaced memories of the last seven years campaigns. “I can tell you right now there is genuine disappointment that we have not reached the top six,” he said. “I believe that having watched a lot of games, simply because I have not been fit, we are a worthy top six team. You can't argue with facts. Yet you continue to whilst belittling anyone with an alternative opinion. That's your perogative and fair enough. But you can't get all biscuit arsed when someone says something that doesn't meet your own expectations. That just makes you look foolish, particulary when they have shown you respect. The fact is that we are not top six. Del's fault pure and simple. Edited April 16, 2010 by 101 Saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deej Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 The fact is that we are not top six. Del's fault pure and simple. This is our first year back in the SPL after 7 years of lower league football. For any team in our situation at the start of the season, 11th is acceptable. We are 7th, mathematically safe from relegation. Those are the facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Saint Posted April 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 This is our first year back in the SPL after 7 years of lower league football. For any team in our situation at the start of the season, 11th is acceptable. We are 7th, mathematically safe from relegation. Those are the facts. What is our situation? We have a top six squad my opinion at the start of the season and verified by our players and our games against such as Utd, Hibs, M'Well and Hearts. We have lot's of money, incredible stability, reasonable training facilities, terrific medical facilities in Leicestershire and a board prepared to sign players deep into the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deej Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 What is our situation? This is our first year back in the SPL after 7 years of lower league football. For any team in our situation at the start of the season, 11th is acceptable. We are 7th, mathematically safe from relegation. Those are the facts. First year back... We have a top six squad my opinion at the start of the season and verified by our players and our games against such as Utd, Hibs, M'Well and Hearts. Despite that, in any clubs first season (back) in the top league (or any higher league) survival should be the main aim. Some exceptions of course, like gr£tna buying the leagues. We have lot's of money, Debatable. Does any Scottish club have lots of money? As far as I know, we are not in debt. I believe there is a big difference. incredible stability, reasonable training facilities, terrific medical facilities in Leicestershire and a board prepared to sign players deep into the season Which all contributes to our consolidating this season, establishing as an SPL club, and looking to improve next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Saint Posted April 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 First year back... Totally irrelevant. I don't understand why that's a hinderance. We should have had an element of surprise. Despite that, in any clubs first season (back) in the top league (or any higher league) survival should be the main aim. Some exceptions of course, like gr£tna buying the leagues. Why should survival have been our main aim. We have a top six squad. That's taking a sledg-hammer to crack a nut. Debatable. Does any Scottish club have lots of money? As far as I know, we are not in debt. I believe there is a big difference. What's debatable about it??? Which all contributes to our consolidating this season, establishing as an SPL club, and looking to improve next year. So they only come into play next year? We had them this season! We failed this season. That's why the players are disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennistoun Saint Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 None of these things are hindsight. I'm probably on record on this forum stating my oppostion to most of them in advance of them happening. Are you still here? You do realise that your statement makes no sense? "Vote 101: He knew better (before it happened)". Nah. About as much chance of that as the Tories being credible in Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deej Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Totally irrelevant. I don't understand why that's a hinderance. We should have had an element of surprise. As a standard fan, I would have accepted 11th at the start of the season. Obviously you put a lot more of your time into following St Johnstone than I do. (Watching training, u19s etc.) Why should survival have been our main aim. We have a top six squad. That's taking a sledg-hammer to crack a nut. I think im going to end up going round in circles here. I believe that in our first season back, avoiding relegation is success. You apparently see it differently, fair enough. What's debatable about it??? Whether we do or don't have lots of money. So they only come into play next year? We had them this season! We failed this season. That's why the players are disappointed. No, like I said earlier, you spend more time with Saints than I do, so are probably in a better position to judge. Whether your clouded judgement of Derek McInnes gets in the way of our achievement (or failure) this season, only you can decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Saint Posted April 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 As a standard fan, I would have accepted 11th at the start of the season. Obviously you put a lot more of your time into following St Johnstone than I do. (Watching training, u19s etc.) But Geoff stated very publicly that he wouldn't be happy with 11th. Del as good as said it in public. Whether we do or don't have lots of money. Are you aware of the figure? No, like I said earlier, you spend more time with Saints than I do, so are probably in a better position to judge. Whether your clouded judgement of Derek McInnes gets in the way of our achievement (or failure) this season, only you can decide. I don't have a clouded judgement of Del. I love him as person and as a coach and as a representative of our club. I hate his selections and tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deej Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 But Geoff stated very publicly that he wouldn't be happy with 11th. Del as good as said it in public. I must have missed that. Are you aware of the figure? No. I don't have a clouded judgement of Del. I love him as person and as a coach and as a representative of our club. I hate his selections and tactics. You hide it well then. After every defeat, its his fault, after every victory, its despite him being shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennistoun Saint Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 It doesn't matter what the Chairman said "very publicly" (oh dear). Duncan seems to be saying he'd have been happy with 11th - a view shared by many at the start of this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deej Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 It doesn't matter what the Chairman said "very publicly" (oh dear). Duncan seems to be saying he'd have been happy with 11th - a view shared by many at the start of this season. Aye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Saint Posted April 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 The players, the chairman and the gaffer were all well placed to judge the potential of the squad. They all shared roughly the same ideas as my good self. The fact that the majority of Saints fans on this forum, mis-understood our potential is irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Saint Posted April 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 You hide it well then. After every defeat, its his fault, after every victory, its despite him being shit. Yes but that's my matchday assessment of his teams with the obvious exception of the Hibs cup game when he got it right. I'll try and get the cash figure for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deej Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Yes but that's my matchday assessment of his teams with the obvious exception of the Hibs cup game when he got it right. So in the whole of this season, he has got the tactics right once? I'll try and get the cash figure for you. Dont go to any effort for me, im not particularly bothered. I just doubted that we were loaded as a club. Might continue this some other time, but im leaving you just now. Goodbye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Saint Posted April 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 So in the whole of this season, he has got the tactics right once? Tactics and selction, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deek Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 After every defeat, its his fault, after every victory, its despite him being shit. Summed up 101's opinions of Del perfectly. I'm sick of reading this repetitive, negative, vindictive nonsense. Since the mods won't ban 101, who IMO is ruining most of the enjoyment of visiting this site, i'm now blocking his posts; after trying my best not to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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