ancientsaint Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 Just saw a bit about a strange goal in the Sunderland v Liverpool game......BENT fired in a shot which "hit" a stray BEACHBALL that had encroached onto the park.......Bents shot hit the Beachball and deflected.....Reyna =the Liverpool keeper dived to save the "Beachball" as the match ball entered the net......GOAl to Sunderland.......think its on MOTD tonight on BBC1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintj Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 it was meant of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injured saint Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 the best thing about it it was a liverpool beachball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintj Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 the best thing about it it was a liverpool beachball the wee boy wasnt smiling for long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injured saint Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 nope but just seen a video of it well funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintj Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 the beach ball did well to stay onside, great play from it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampshade Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 That was class,it's great it was a Liverpool ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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slf Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 ha ha magic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nips Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 I wasn't quite following the conversation on MOTD last night, but were they trying to suggest that the rules say it should have been a drop ball as the ball hit an object that shouldn't have been there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 saying now that the ref got it wrong and it should have been a bounce up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancientsaint Posted October 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 BREAKING NEWS........Geoff Brown has contacted Liverpool fc with a view to taking the "beachball" on loan until the january window opens in an effort to sort out our strikers goal drought........C'Mon the Beachball . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopper Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 I wasn't quite following the conversation on MOTD last night, but were they trying to suggest that the rules say it should have been a drop ball as the ball hit an object that shouldn't have been there? Correct - it shouldn't have been allowed to stand. Much the same way if the ball strikes a substitute or a dog that has run on the pitch etc etc. Play can only go on if it hits something meant to be on the field of play (ie 22 players, referee, assistant - if too close to the touchline to stop the ball going out in full - and the goalframes/corner flags). Jeff Winter was on the tadio this morning (talking shite as usual) saying this is more worrying than the whole ball over the line debates as it is a clear lack of understanding of the laws - yet everybody (including Liverpool) seem to be having a laugh about it! And the little kid who knocked it onto the park should be named and shamed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancientsaint Posted October 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Correct - it shouldn't have been allowed to stand. Much the same way if the ball strikes a substitute or a dog that has run on the pitch etc etc. Play can only go on if it hits something meant to be on the field of play (ie 22 players, referee, assistant - if too close to the touchline to stop the ball going out in full - and the goalframes/corner flags). Jeff Winter was on the tadio this morning (talking shite as usual) saying this is more worrying than the whole ball over the line debates as it is a clear lack of understanding of the laws - yet everybody (including Liverpool) seem to be having a laugh about it! And the little kid who knocked it onto the park should be named and shamed Bear in mind tho the Referee's view and that of his assistant -who were of the view -as was Benitez-that the ball struck the Liverpool defender...easy to decide after a few re-runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nips Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Cheers for clarifying Chops. My memory is a bit hazy about a similar incident a couple of seasons ago where I think Man City were done in by the ball hitting a balloon just as a defender was about to clear it. Surely if the rule is that there should be a drop ball then the officials should have been aware of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopper Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Bear in mind tho the Referee's view and that of his assistant -who were of the view -as was Benitez-that the ball struck the Liverpool defender...easy to decide after a few re-runs. Ancient, I wholeheartedly agree - everything can't be seen (it should, but always difficult!). Must admit, if I hadn't heard about it on the radio home, from the assistant's view it would have looked like Johnson deflected it in. Though the fact the beach ball moved in such a way would have to give an idea that it may have hit that. Nips, I think if i remember the incident the ball didn't hit the balloon and it may have been the player kicked the balloon instead of the ball therefore that goal was correctly allowed to stand. If the ball hit the balloon, then play should have been stopped. Man City away at Sheffield United so Mark can let us know as he will remember it better than any of us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Man City incident: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scobby_SJFC Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 You have a feeling the man utd fans will do something to mark this next week when the two sides meet!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 You have a feeling the man utd fans will do something to mark this next week when the two sides meet!! Fnar fnar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nips Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Man City incident: So presumably that goal should have been disallowed as well then? I blame the FA for not clarifying the rule after the Sheff Utd goal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stamford Saintee Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Couldn't happen to a nicer team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noose76 Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Seems as if it was Gary Neville who threw the ball on the pitch http://i33.tinypic.com/opxudg.gif%3C/div%3E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PH1 LAD Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Liverpool_Beach_Ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Radio5 Live had a referee on at 5:00 Saturday to say the goal should not have stood as the ball came off an object that should not have been on the pitch (couldn't we claim that for Boyd's goal on Saturday???? ). I am sure Chopper or The Mad Referee will be able to give us their expert opinions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopper Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Radio5 Live had a referee on at 5:00 Saturday to say the goal should not have stood as the ball came off an object that should not have been on the pitch (couldn't we claim that for Boyd's goal on Saturday???? ). I am sure Chopper or The Mad Referee will be able to give us their expert opinions No, radio 5 live had "3 card magician" Graham Poll on, not a referee! Law 5 of the laws of the game state that the referee: - stops suspends or abandons the match because of outside interferance of any kind This happens often on the public park if a dog runs on and stops players progressing (note the dog is not shown a yellow card when he invariably trips said player!). Play is stopped where the ball is when the outside interferance occurs (in the beach ball case, the 6 yard line where the football hit the beach ball) and play is restarted with a dropped ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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