Radford 72 Posted June 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Have non of these young guys not signed yet ?. I am sure Coyle will sign another couple of players yet but if he doesn`t manage to I would be happy with a couple of these guys in the pool. If they have not resigned & we don`t manage to pick up a couple of good midfielders then we could struggle this season. I think they have but there's been nothing official, on contract lengths etc... St Johnstone squad 2007/08 Goalkeepers Kevin Cuthbert (24) - 2008 Alan Main (39) - 2009 Defenders Kevin James (31) - 2009 Kevin Rutkiewicz (27) - 2008 Goran Stanic (34) - 2008 Allan McManus (32) - 2008 Andy Lawrie (28) - 2008 Steven Anderson (21) - 2008 Willie Dyer (20) - 2008 Midfielders Paul Sheerin (32) - 2008 Martin Hardie (31) - 2008 Willie McLaren (22) - 2009 Derek McInnes (36) - 2008 Jamie McCluskey (19) - 2008 Forwards Owen Coyle (41) - 2009 Peter MacDonald (26) - 2008 Steven Milne (27) - 2008 Andy Jackson (19) - 2008 David Weatherston (20) - 2009 Dyron Daal (23) - 2008 Full-time Youth Players Kevin Moon (20) - 2007 Steven Doris (18) - 2007 Neil McCallum (19) - 2008 Bobby Barr (19) - 2007 Gordon O'Brien (18) - 2007 Steven Kerr (17) - 2007 Adam Monaghan (17) - 2007 Players in red out of contract in the summer. (Ages at start of season 2007/08). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford 72 Posted July 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Going on what I've seen pre-season, I'd reckon the following is our first team squad... ST JOHNSTONE FC Goalkeepers Kevin Cuthbert (24) - 2008 Alan Main (39) - 2009 Defenders Kevin James (31) - 2009 Kevin Rutkiewicz (27) - 2008 Goran Stanic (34) - 2008 Allan McManus (32) - 2008 Andy Lawrie (28) - 2008 Steven Anderson (21) - 2008 Willie Dyer (20) - 2008 Midfielders Paul Sheerin (32) - 2008 Martin Hardie (31) - 2008 Willie McLaren (22) - 2009 Derek McInnes (36) - 2008 Jamie McCluskey (19) - 2008 Kevin Moon (20) - ???? David Weatherston (20) - 2009 Forwards Owen Coyle (41) - 2009 Peter MacDonald (26) - 2008 Steven Milne (27) - 2008 Andy Jackson (19) - 2008 Dyron Daal (23) - 2008 John Stewart (22) - Dec 2007 (On loan from Falkirk) Steven Doris (18) - ???? Neil McCallum (19) - 2008 Full-time Youth Players Bobby Barr (19) - ???? Gordon O'Brien (18) - ???? Steven Kerr (17) - ???? Adam Monaghan (17) - ???? Darren Wilcox (16) - ???? Jonathan Fairburn (??) - ???? (Ages at start of season 2007/08). Personally, I still think we are three players short. We could do with another (better) option at right back, another striker but most importantly another central midfielder to really push McInnes or Hardie for the jersey. That is definitely easier said than done though. Not convinced that another two midfielders would be excessive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Lavette Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Goalkeepers Kevin Cuthbert (24) - 2008 Alan Main (39) - 2009 Defenders Kevin James (31) - 2009 Kevin Rutkiewicz (27) - 2008 Goran Stanic (34) - 2008 Allan McManus (32) - 2008 Andy Lawrie (28) - 2008 Steven Anderson (21) - 2008 Willie Dyer (20) - 2008 Midfielders Paul Sheerin (32) - 2008 Martin Hardie (31) - 2008 Willie McLaren (22) - 2009 Derek McInnes (36) - 2008 Jamie McCluskey (19) - 2008 Kevin Moon (20) - ???? David Weatherston (20) - 2009 Forwards Owen Coyle (41) - 2009 Peter MacDonald (26) - 2008 Steven Milne (27) - 2008 Andy Jackson (19) - 2008 Dyron Daal (23) - 2008 John Stewart (22) - Dec 2007 (On loan from Falkirk) Steven Doris (18) - ???? Neil McCallum (19) - 2008 ...........average age excluding full time youth players is 26.29 years, a good mix of youth and experience in my opinion, any other thoughts?.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldPoster Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 is coyle registered as a player this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Lavette Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 is coyle registered as a player this season? .........if he is not the average age will drop to 12.4 years.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford 72 Posted July 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 is coyle registered as a player this season? Yep but primarily just to help the younger guys in the reserves. Regarding squad age, I agree that 26-29 is the level you should be looking for and would hope the midfielders we bring in fall in that bracket, when players are usually at their peak. At the moment we have guys at either end of the scale, although Hardie may well be playing the best football of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford 72 Posted August 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 I've moved Doris and McCallum out of the first team squad as I'm sure I read, either in the programme or on the official site, that their are eight lads on the groundstaff still. Added in the three new signings though. ST JOHNSTONE FC Goalkeepers Kevin Cuthbert (24) - 2008 Alan Main (39) - 2009 Defenders Kevin James (31) - 2009 Kevin Rutkiewicz (27) - 2008 Goran Stanic (34) - 2008 Allan McManus (32) - 2008 Andy Lawrie (28) - 2008 Steven Anderson (21) - 2010 Willie Dyer (20) - 2008 (On loan to Brechin City - Dec 2007) Gary Irvine (22) - 2009 Midfielders Paul Sheerin (32) - 2008 Martin Hardie (31) - 2008 Willie McLaren (22) - 2009 Derek McInnes (36) - 2010 Jamie McCluskey (19) - 2008 Kevin Moon (20) - ???? David Weatherston (20) - 2009 Rocco Quinn (20) - Dec 2007 (On loan from Celtic) Forwards Peter MacDonald (26) - 2008 Steven Milne (27) - 2008 Andy Jackson (19) - 2010 Dyron Daal (23) - 2008 John Stewart (22) - Dec 2007 (On loan from Falkirk) Full-time Youth Players Bobby Barr (19) - ???? Gordon O'Brien (18) - ???? Steven Kerr (17) - ???? Adam Monaghan (17) - ???? Darren Wilcox (16) - ???? Jonathan Fairburn (17) - ???? Steven Doris (18) - ???? (On loan to Montrose - Dec 2007) Neil McCallum (19) - 2008 (On loan to Forfar Athletic - Dec 2007) (Ages at start of season 2007/08). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan the saint Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 I've moved Doris and McCallum out of the first team squad as I'm sure I read, either in the programme or on the official site, that their are eight lads on the groundstaff still. Added in the three new signings though. ST JOHNSTONE FC Goalkeepers Kevin Cuthbert (24) - 2008 Alan Main (39) - 2009 Defenders Kevin James (31) - 2009 Kevin Rutkiewicz (27) - 2008 Goran Stanic (34) - 2008 Allan McManus (32) - 2008 Andy Lawrie (28) - 2008 Steven Anderson (21) - 2008 Willie Dyer (20) - 2008 Gary Irvine (22) - 2009 Midfielders Paul Sheerin (32) - 2008 Martin Hardie (31) - 2008 Willie McLaren (22) - 2009 Derek McInnes (36) - 2008 Jamie McCluskey (19) - 2008 Kevin Moon (20) - ???? David Weatherston (20) - 2009 Rocco Quinn (20) - Dec 2007 (On loan from Celtic) Forwards Owen Coyle (41) - 2009 Peter MacDonald (26) - 2008 Steven Milne (27) - 2008 Andy Jackson (19) - 2008 Dyron Daal (23) - 2008 John Stewart (22) - Dec 2007 (On loan from Falkirk) Kenny Deuchar (27) - Nov 2007 (On loan from Gretna) Full-time Youth Players Bobby Barr (19) - ???? Gordon O'Brien (18) - ???? Steven Kerr (17) - ???? Adam Monaghan (17) - ???? Darren Wilcox (16) - ???? Jonathan Fairburn (17) - ???? Steven Doris (18) - ???? Neil McCallum (19) - 2008 (Ages at start of season 2007/08). good Squad now but i would like 1 more Midfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
^sainteebrian^ Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Kenny Deuchar is on untill december Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford 72 Posted December 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2007 Why not just update this one, like has been the case for the past few years? ST JOHNSTONE FC Goalkeepers Kevin Cuthbert (24) - 2008 Alan Main (39) - 2009 Defenders Kevin James (31) - 2009 Kevin Rutkiewicz (27) - 2008 Goran Stanic (34) - 2008 Allan McManus (32) - 2008 Andy Lawrie (28) - 2008 Steven Anderson (21) - 2010 Willie Dyer (20) - 2008 Gary Irvine (22) - 2009 Stuart McCaffrey (27) - 2008 (On loan from ICT) Midfielders Paul Sheerin (32) - 2008 Martin Hardie (31) - 2008 Willie McLaren (22) - 2009 Derek McInnes (36) - 2010 Jamie McCluskey (19) - 2008 Kevin Moon (20) - ???? David Weatherston (20) - 2009 Liam Craig (20) - 2008 (On loan from Falkirk) Forwards Peter MacDonald (26) - 2008 Steven Milne (27) - 2010 Andy Jackson (19) - 2010 Dyron Daal (23) - 2008 Daniel McBreen (30) - 2008 Full-time Youth Players Bobby Barr (19) - ???? Gordon O'Brien (18) - ???? Steven Kerr (17) - ???? Adam Monaghan (17) - ???? Darren Wilcox (16) - ???? Jonathan Fairburn (17) - ???? Steven Doris (18) - ???? (On loan to Montrose - May 2008) (Ages at start of season 2007/08). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford 72 Posted January 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Just bumping this back to the top with the news that some players may be on the way out. List above us been updated accordingly. I know McCaffrey will be here next season but still awaiting details of his deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Just bumping this back to the top with the news that some players may be on the way out. List above us been updated accordingly. I know McCaffrey will be here next season but still awaiting details of his deal. Quite a few players out of contract soon but I'm sure several will get an offer of a extension. I'm trying to think who I would keep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broon Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Is Craig only 20? Bloody hell, thought he was at least 25. Damn decent player for his age then, puts him in a different light. Need to get Moon signed up long term! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBay Saint Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Craig, Moon, McCluskey, Weatherston, Irvine, Anderson, Jackson, Dyer, Cuthbert - average age 20. Get them all signed on decent length contracts as I believe they will give us a strong core to the team over the next few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Have to agree with that DBay but I can`t see it happening. Cuthbert would be daft to sign up for another couple of years of sitting on the bench whilst a geriatric sells points week in week out.Whetherston , McLuskey & Dyer don`t look like they are in the plans & Anderson is played at right back & on subs bench when he should be first choice centre back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford 72 Posted March 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Just bumping this since we've added a few new faces. Lots of decision for the manager to make in the summer. The opportunity is certainly there for him to overhaul the squad if that's what he wants to do. He did say when he took over that he felt we had a good squad and suggested the improvements he thought good be made could be done tactically but it became clear in January he'd maybe re-assessed that opinion. ST JOHNSTONE FC Goalkeepers Kevin Cuthbert (25) - May 2008 Alan Main (40) - May 2009 Defenders Kevin Rutkiewicz (28) - May 2008 Steven Anderson (22) - May 2010 Kevin James (32) - May 2009 Goran Stanic (35) - May 2008 Allan McManus (33) - May 2008 Andy Lawrie (29) - May 2008 Gary Irvine (23) - May 2009 Stuart McCaffrey (29) - May 2010 Midfielders Kevin Moon (21) - ???? Paul Sheerin (33) - May 2008 Martin Hardie (32) - May 2008 Derek McInnes (37) - May 2010 Jamie McCluskey (20) - May 2008 Liam Craig (21) - May 2008 (On loan from Falkirk) Greg Cameron (20) - May 2008 (On loan from Dundee Utd) Rocco Quinn (21) - Apr 2008 (On loan from Celtic) Jody Morris (29) - May 2008 Barry Wilson (36) - Mar 2008 (On loan from ICT) Sean Lynch (21) - Mar 2008 (On loan from Hibernian) Forwards Peter MacDonald (27) - May 2008 Andy Jackson (20) - May 2010 Steven Milne (28) - May 2010 David Weatherston (21) - May 2009 Daniel McBreen (31) - May 2008 Full-time Youth Players Steven Doris (19) - ???? (On loan to Montrose - May 2008) Bobby Barr (20) - ???? Gordon O'Brien (19) - ???? Steven Kerr (19) - ???? Adam Monaghan (19) - ???? Darren Wilcox (17) - ???? Jonathan Fairburn (18) - ???? Players in red out of contract in the summer. (Ages at start of season 2008/09) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barca-Saintee Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 did peaso not sign a contract extension? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templeofsaints Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 did peaso not sign a contract extension? Not yet - in talks for a 2yr deal. Must admit I'm really worried about the midfield - allowing for Millar coming in, there seems to be a lot of negotiating to be done over the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 At least Del is signed for a couple of seasons yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldPoster Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Thats wilson away now, Is Lynch gone aswell, We never heard anythign after he got injured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Maskrey Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Thats wilson away now, Is Lynch gone aswell, We never heard anythign after he got injured Yes, he left a couple of weeks ago. He came here as cover but then our other midfielders recovered from injury/returned from suspension so we didn't really need him anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford 72 Posted April 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Thats wilson away now, Is Lynch gone aswell, We never heard anythign after he got injured I thought Lynch looked ok on his debut and he had a bit of physical presence about him, something we are badly missing. Not disappointed to see Wilson return to ICT, we were only doing him a favour over the past weeks. ST JOHNSTONE FC Goalkeepers Kevin Cuthbert (25) - May 2008 Alan Main (40) - May 2009 Defenders Kevin Rutkiewicz (28) - May 2010 Steven Anderson (22) - May 2010 Kevin James (32) - May 2009 Goran Stanic (35) - May 2008 Allan McManus (33) - May 2008 Andy Lawrie (29) - May 2008 Gary Irvine (23) - May 2009 Stuart McCaffrey (29) - May 2010 Midfielders Kevin Moon (21) - May 2009 Paul Sheerin (33) - May 2008 Martin Hardie (32) - May 2010 Derek McInnes (37) - May 2010 Jamie McCluskey (20) - May 2008 Liam Craig (21) - May 2011 Greg Cameron (20) - May 2008 (On loan from Dundee Utd) Rocco Quinn (21) - Apr 2008 (On loan from Celtic) Jody Morris (29) - May 2008 Chris Millar (25) - ???? Forwards Peter MacDonald (27) - May 2010 Andy Jackson (20) - May 2010 Steven Milne (28) - May 2010 David Weatherston (21) - May 2009 Daniel McBreen (31) - May 2008 Full-time Youth Players Steven Doris (19) - ???? (On loan to Montrose - May 2008) Bobby Barr (20) - ???? (On loan to Albion Rovers - May 2008) Gordon O'Brien (19) - ???? (On loan to Berwick Rangers - May 2008) Steven Kerr (19) - ???? Adam Monaghan (19) - ???? Darren Wilcox (17) - ???? Jonathan Fairburn (18) - ???? Players in red out of contract in the summer. (Ages at start of season 2008/09) Maybe not the best time to ask after a disappointing result yesterday but what are folks' thoughts on players staying or going? Definite exits for me are Cuthbert, Lawrie and McCluskey of the senior players. Definite keeps are Rutkiewicz, Hardie and MacDonald and I'd like Morris to stay, although no idea how likely that is. Not sure what the chances of keeping Craig and Quinn are we lacked a real physical presence against Accies yesterday and neither are going to provide that, although admittedly Morris and Hardie would. Add Mooner to the keep list and hopefully he'll push on a bit more next season. I think he's probably exceeded his own expectations this season. That leaves McManus, Stanic, Sheerin and McBreen, ignoring Cameron who will surely return to Tannadice. We need a target man option IMO but if McBreen is gonna spend more time on the treatment table than the pitch then we need to look elsewhere. I do think he'd be a good player for us if fit though. The other three have all played a lot this season and the advantage of McManus is he will always be fit so provides good cover. Can we afford to run with 4 centre backs though? I think it'll be hard to find 2 left backs so for that reason Stanic should get another year and Sheerin offers the same thing as McManus, he'll always be fit. He can also play a number of roles. Wouldn't be against all of them getting another year, although I'd like to see Peaso, Hardie and Ruti get a couple. Of the younger guys, not sure on O'Brien's long term potential but the others are all progressing ok IMO. In short... Cuthbert - Go Rutkiewicz - 2 years Stanic - 1 year McManus - 1 year Lawrie - Go Moon - 1 year (With view to same arrangement as with Jacko/Ando last summer) Sheerin - 1 year Hardie - 2 years McCluskey - Go Morris - 1 year MacDonald - 2 years McBreen - 1 year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ghost of Jim Morton Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Players to go.... Cuthbert, McManus,Lawrie,Stanic,Sheerin( my fav player but he's done)McDonald. If we get a half decent offer for Savo we should take it as well. I think we need .Two new defenders,we are okay in midfield and we need two new strikers who have to have a much better chances to goals ratio than Peaso and Savo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Cuthbert - Go Rutkiewicz - 2 years Stanic - 1 year McManus - 1 year Lawrie - Go Moon - 1 year (With view to same arrangement as with Jacko/Ando last summer) Sheerin - 1 year Hardie - 2 years McCluskey - Go Morris - 1 year MacDonald - 2 years McBreen - 1 year I agree with that pretty much entirely. Only slight change I might make is that I'd maybe give McCluskey another chance with a one year deal. I think he's a skilful player who has maybe been a bit unlucky this season with injuries - he seems really lightweight but that's always something that can be worked on. I wonder if we have a decent chance of keeping Morris? I've only seen him once for us and he was rank (at Partick), but I think that if he gets a pre-season with us he could be a terrific player for us. I'd definitely want Craig to stay, out of the loan players. I'm not so sure about Quinn though - I think we can probably do better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUZZ Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 Cuthbert - Go Rutkiewicz - 2 years Stanic - 1 year McManus - Go Lawrie - Go Moon - 2 year Sheerin - 1 year (but as a back up player) Hardie - 1 year (only a year, injury may have a negative effect on him i feel) McCluskey - Go Morris - 2 year MacDonald - 2 years McBreen - UNDECIDED, NEED A STRIKER LIKE HIM BUT UNSURE HE'S THE MAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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