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Was Martindale ever really our first choice of new manager, the fact that only Levein and him were mentioned is a worry as don’t think he’d have been a great fix either. I think every interview he does you can’t take seriously, it’s like he can’t be arsed and in his head I think he thinks he’s amusing. In his very first interview he tried to tell us he was only at the game Cleland took charge of to watch Max and that he nearly left when he realised Max wasn’t playing. Of course he was there because he was invited by Geoff so why make that wee story up. Somewhere in Levein s head he wants us to think at that Tues night game, Geoff Brown looks over and turns to Roddy : “ is that Craig Levein over there ?” Roddy : “ aye I think it is “ Geoff : “ run over and see if he fancies the Manager job, our only other option, Livingston didn’t give us permission to speak to “ Roddy : “ he says he will take it, but only if he can bring some lad called Andy and it will be Andy does all the work, he only wants to mentor Max “

On paper levein made a lot of sense at the time, and it's still one I dont think you criticise the club for no matter how it turns out.

Jesus. Christ. Almighty.

Well done PSJ - this was a deliberate mistake to see if everyone was paying attention... Yes of course I mean Sidibeh - one of the few bright lights of the season so far.

No bad scheme tho, actually got windies in the bus shelters.

I saw Stark retired this week. Up until the last few years I always had him down as the worst Saints manager I'd seen. Nowadays I'm not so sure.

I’m surprised you have time to notice that I can’t take my eyes off the scintillating play on the pitch😡

Got bus into town after the game, laughed at wee neds in that scheme next to the ground screaming at us and spitting on the bus windies. They were only about 10 or 11 years old.

And St Mirren and Motherwell. Four clubs we were consistently outperforming. We know where it started to go wrong - SB gave up, leaving Flaherty and Davidson to wreak havoc and destroy our hard earned status, our squad and potentially our legacy. I can’t help but wonder if Geoff could have intervened and limited those two incompetent and wasteful chancers given that his son didn’t. Stan may be reducing costs and wages since he returned, but the damage was done by then. How many more years of poor, negative, defensive football do we have to suffer? New owners bring uncertainty rather than anticipation. They’re going to have to prove themselves and earn our support.

I wanted to be positive about Levein and give him a chance but for me it just never sat well and he's turned out to be completely the wrong fit for the club. I don't really buy into it making a lot of sense at the time. Bringing him back to this level was a big gamble. He made a big mess of his last stint at Hearts, it's a very long time since he was a success at our level and bringing Kirk with him meant putting a Highland League manager in charge of a Premiership club's training. I still think back to those opening interviews he gave, where he didn't mention Saints at all, expressed no excitement for the job or opportunity, and just said he came because Geoff asked him and he likes the people here. He just seemed way too relaxed about the whole thing, and he still does. Is he hungry for this job and does he understand the ambitions of St Johnstone? There would have been younger, hungrier, more ambitious managers absolutely desperate for the chance to come to this club. I wonder how many of those guys Geoff Brown even spoke to? Compare Levein to everything we know about Derek McInnes - the attitude, the work he puts in, the strategy he has. That's someone running a club that should be one of our close competitors in this league, and I just don't think Levein comes even close to matching him. That's why clubs like Killie (and Dundee) have overtaken us when they never should have. All of this has just been so annoyingly avoidable.

Levein has done as well as anyone with the resources could have done - we won't be going automatically down, but might need to play off to prove our status.

I thought there were both positives and negatives from that performance. The positives, the fact that we were actually attacking. It's been a long time since I've heard the media say "wave after wave of St. Johnstone attacks". This was a far cry from the ultra negative Davidson days. Sidibeh is raw and a bit all over the place, but is great to watch. And as for that goal, excellent! Robbie Savage even mentioned at the start of the 606 phone in on Sunday night. It's good to have somebody in a Saints shirt who gets you excited whenever he gets the ball. Again, it's been a while. Clark still looks a bit rusty, Kimpioka looked good when he came on. Max did okay but we missed Sprangler. If he had been in his normal place, there's a strong possibility that neither Dundee goal would have happened. As for the negatives, like others, I can't fathom out Levein's substitution policy. So many players were showing signs of tiredness with around 30 minutes to go, surely some fresh legs on the pitch would have made a difference. Callum had this reluctance as well and it's so frustrating. Good modern managers can take advantage of the five players you're now able to bring on. And more and more, it seems to be becoming an important part of the game. Levein seems stuck in the old two subs maximum days. This really needs to change going forward. Yes, we don't have the strongest bench, but Kimpioka and May could have been on earlier and even Crawford could have been brought on with ten minutes to go, to hopefully get one of his trademark equalisers or winners. For what it's worth, I thought at the time, and I still do, that the McGowan "goal" should have stood. I'm agreeing with Sportscene pundits for once, the keeper wasn't in control of the ball. I also thought it was already over the line. That's at least four points Dundee have got from us this season because of V.A.R. That would make the current table much different than it is now. And if you add in the Aberdeen game with the Carey goal! Levein frustrates me but if he keeps us up then it's job done. After that, he can be more accurately judged on his team and performances going forward. Dundee by the way I thought were okay, but not nearly as good as some people think. They remind me of what we used to be like, organised and able to somehow get a result when required. Beck makes them look better than they are, but without him, they're not as good as the hype.

There was plenty of effort from the players, but lacking so many of the basics. Thought Sidebeh was impressive. He was raw, but he was constantly looking to make things happen and scored an outstanding goal. His attitude towards being a St Johnstone player is also highly refreshing. You can see what it means to him, to have this chance in British football. A few others could learn a lesson from him.

It'd be interesting to see how Sidibeh and Kimpioka would work as a partnership. I'm not entirely sure why Kimpioka was dropped in the first place, just as he seemed to be settling in and finding a bit of form. I do quite like having one of them on the bench though, so that they can come on and run at tired defenders. I'd actually quite like to start with May and Sidibeh up front in this one, with May sitting a bit further back and Sidibeh as the out-and-out striker. Suspect it'll be a very similar line-up to what we saw in the Dundee game, but personally I don't want to see that same midfield again. Gallacher's not a left winger and we had no one sticking to the right hand side at all. On balance I'd rather see Carey on the left if he's available. No idea who should play on the right (maybe Franczak, if he's back up to starting fitness?) but wasn't Connor Smith originally touted as a winger when we signed him? Maybe this just shows the extent of where we're at but if Cammy MacPherson's back I'd probably be looking at bringing him into the midfield.