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I've been resigned to relegation for some time, but with even a slight chance that survival was possible, you'd have hoped everyone would be pulling together to try and save the club.
The last thing any club would want, is to learn from an announcement on another club's website that this wasn't the case.
Relegation might have a negative impact on our new stadium (yet another hostile council meeting in a couple of hours) and if that goes belly-up, our proud little club will certainly die.
So yes, the manner and timing of the announcement are of great significance.
Coulson's departure of itself won't finish us off (he'll certainly keep your physio busy and save us a fortune in insurance) but the fallout has the potential to be extremely damaging to York City.
That said, we've been ****ed over before, and no doubt will again - it's something the diddy clubs in England have had to get used to, just as they have in Scotland.

I've been resigned to relegation for some time, but with even a slight chance that survival was possible, you'd have hoped everyone would be pulling together to try and save the club.
The last thing any club would want, is to learn from an announcement on another club's website that this wasn't the case.
Relegation might have a negative impact on our new stadium (yet another hostile council meeting in a couple of hours) and if that goes belly-up, our proud little club will certainly die.
So yes, the manner and timing of the announcement are of great significance.
Coulson's departure of itself won't finish us off (he'll certainly keep your physio busy and save us a fortune in insurance) but the fallout has the potential to be extremely damaging to York City.
That said, we've been ****ed over before, and no doubt will again - it's something the diddy clubs in England have had to get used to, just as they have in Scotland.

Just noticed the headline ' Patrick Vieira appointed New York City manager and for a moment thought Jackie Mac had been sacked already!!

McNamara now 4/6 favourite for the York job.
Im holding out for Clough (10/1) or Wilson (20/1), but Russ Wilcox might be an interesting bet at 16/1 only 9 days after being booted out of the job. Top work, SkyBet.

McNamara would be a big step forward from the alleged favourite over the weekend, Greg Abbott, but with Nigel Clough rumoured to have been interviewed as well, and Danny Wilson possibly in the running I'm taking nothing for granted.
That said, I've already dusted off my cup final programme and selected a nice spot for an autograph just in case.

McNamara would be a big step forward from the alleged favourite over the weekend, Greg Abbott, but with Nigel Clough rumoured to have been interviewed as well, and Danny Wilson possibly in the running I'm taking nothing for granted.
That said, I've already dusted off my cup final programme and selected a nice spot for an autograph just in case.

Can someone explain to me why Corbyn should sing a seriously crap song about a god he doesn't believe exists (which it doesn't) about a ridiculous hereditary monarchy which he believes shouldn't exist (which it shouldnt) which quite clearly is in absolutely no need of being saved anyway because the Oxbridge elite find it a useful way of distracting you whilst they steal your money. And that's before we get to the infamous third verse, in which the imaginary deity and the lucky sperm German wifie are begged to crush Scottish people. You couldn't make it up. Yet they did. and mind-boggling numbers of you still believe this shite, and wilfully part your buttock cheeks so they can keep on shafting you. WAKE UP.

I have reported the first paragraph for rank stupidity..... :-)
it may look from a distance that DC is a fantastic PM but when you see what his policies are doing here on the ground I would hope you would change your mind. Yeah, I took the bait.
 
as for Corbyn, he appears to have galvanised former lab voters who gave up once new labour took over. Don't forget the extreme right wing Tories got in with only 26% of the vote. Labour do not need too much of a swing to win. Unlikely I know given our extreme right wing press looking after the rulers.
ps why is it anyone left of centre is called extreme? This current mob are far more extreme on the right.

I wasn't aware of this, so thanks for posting it.
Never thought of myself as a groundhopper, but it would seem I've racked up 126 grounds over the years.
No wonder I never have any money.

Have just heard that Celtic have today had their application to develop a safe standing area at Parkhead approved by all those concerned, including Police Scotland.
 
Not likely to be in place for next season, but for the season after

I take the point about clubs who've come up through the ranks being well-run, but I'm not so sure it's the case that relegated clubs struggle because they're run in a profligate manner (though some may well be).
 
York City was always known as a well-run club, but what changed was that it was asset-stripped by two successive owners. Despite promotion back to the League, we're still struggling against the legacy of those owners who ran the club not so much "badly", as purely in their own interests. If we can get through next season in one piece, our long-awaited new stadium should put the club on a more secure footing, but it's been a long hard struggle which may well have contributed to the recent premature death of another former chairman Steve Beck who in my opinion was the single most important person in the fight to save York City (RIP big man).
 
Even a healthy club will struggle after relegation to the Conference though; it's reckoned that the relegated club will be around £500,000 a year worse off as various League payments are cut off, funding for youth and community schemes dries up, etc.
 
The transition is traumatic and morale-sapping, which is why I believe the loyalty and passion of the supporters is so important: they have to learn the fund-raising skills that has always been second nature to their non-league cousins; they have to learn to take it on the chin when they attract 5,000 fans to a game, but still can't beat a team that plays in front of 750 week in and week out; and they have to learn to accept that for the time being, they're the big time charlies that everyone else loves to hate, and wants to beat.
 
I know next to nothing about the circumstances behind Tranmere's relegation, but I do believe their fans will carry them through this, no matter how long it takes.
 
Good luck to both them and Barrow next season!

I take the point about clubs who've come up through the ranks being well-run, but I'm not so sure it's the case that relegated clubs struggle because they're run in a profligate manner (though some may well be).
 
York City was always known as a well-run club, but what changed was that it was asset-stripped by two successive owners. Despite promotion back to the League, we're still struggling against the legacy of those owners who ran the club not so much "badly", as purely in their own interests. If we can get through next season in one piece, our long-awaited new stadium should put the club on a more secure footing, but it's been a long hard struggle which may well have contributed to the recent premature death of another former chairman Steve Beck who in my opinion was the single most important person in the fight to save York City (RIP big man).
 
Even a healthy club will struggle after relegation to the Conference though; it's reckoned that the relegated club will be around £500,000 a year worse off as various League payments are cut off, funding for youth and community schemes dries up, etc.
 
The transition is traumatic and morale-sapping, which is why I believe the loyalty and passion of the supporters is so important: they have to learn the fund-raising skills that has always been second nature to their non-league cousins; they have to learn to take it on the chin when they attract 5,000 fans to a game, but still can't beat a team that plays in front of 750 week in and week out; and they have to learn to accept that for the time being, they're the big time charlies that everyone else loves to hate, and wants to beat.
 
I know next to nothing about the circumstances behind Tranmere's relegation, but I do believe their fans will carry them through this, no matter how long it takes.
 
Good luck to both them and Barrow next season!

I take the point about clubs who've come up through the ranks being well-run, but I'm not so sure it's the case that relegated clubs struggle because they're run in a profligate manner (though some may well be).
 
York City was always known as a well-run club, but what changed was that it was asset-stripped by two successive owners. Despite promotion back to the League, we're still struggling against the legacy of those owners who ran the club not so much "badly", as purely in their own interests. If we can get through next season in one piece, our long-awaited new stadium should put the club on a more secure footing, but it's been a long hard struggle which may well have contributed to the recent premature death of another former chairman Steve Beck who in my opinion was the single most important person in the fight to save York City (RIP big man).
 
Even a healthy club will struggle after relegation to the Conference though; it's reckoned that the relegated club will be around £500,000 a year worse off as various League payments are cut off, funding for youth and community schemes dries up, etc.
 
The transition is traumatic and morale-sapping, which is why I believe the loyalty and passion of the supporters is so important: they have to learn the fund-raising skills that has always been second nature to their non-league cousins; they have to learn to take it on the chin when they attract 5,000 fans to a game, but still can't beat a team that plays in front of 750 week in and week out; and they have to learn to accept that for the time being, they're the big time charlies that everyone else loves to hate, and wants to beat.
 
I know next to nothing about the circumstances behind Tranmere's relegation, but I do believe their fans will carry them through this, no matter how long it takes.
 
Good luck to both them and Barrow next season!

Probably the reason so many of the smaller teams do so well in the conference and the relegated league clubs can take years to get promotion is that the smaller clubs are just run so much better. With limited income from small crowds they have to make sure they spend every penny wisely. I don't know how true this is but I heard that when Stockport were relegated to the Conference they had over 50 non playing members of staff on the payroll ! If this was true then no wonder they went down again into Conference North.

It's not "bye bye", honest!
 
The Conference (or National League as it will be next season) is a dreadful place for a proper club to find itself, but I'm sure a club with Tranmere's tradition and passionate support will find its way back, even if it takes a few years. It took York City 8 gruelling years, so anything less than that is a bonus!
 
There are more ex-League clubs than ever competing at that level, so there'll be some great battles with the likes of Wrexham, Lincoln, Chester, Halifax, Barrow, Bristol Rovers and/or Grimsby, etc to compensate for the Braintrees and Dovers.
 
The biggest shock we got (apart from not getting promoted at the first seven attempts) was the tiny away followings that came to Bootham Crescent, the worst being Leigh RMI who brought 11 to a Tuesday night fixture. When the home fans applauded the dedication of that select few, the Leigh chairman though we were taking the p!ss, took offence, and it nearly kicked off in the directors' box
 
Yes it's a dismal league, but keep faith and you'll have some great laughs along the way, and the passion of the fans who remain loyal will become deeper than you ever thought possible.

It's not "bye bye", honest!
 
The Conference (or National League as it will be next season) is a dreadful place for a proper club to find itself, but I'm sure a club with Tranmere's tradition and passionate support will find its way back, even if it takes a few years. It took York City 8 gruelling years, so anything less than that is a bonus!
 
There are more ex-League clubs than ever competing at that level, so there'll be some great battles with the likes of Wrexham, Lincoln, Chester, Halifax, Barrow, Bristol Rovers and/or Grimsby, etc to compensate for the Braintrees and Dovers.
 
The biggest shock we got (apart from not getting promoted at the first seven attempts) was the tiny away followings that came to Bootham Crescent, the worst being Leigh RMI who brought 11 to a Tuesday night fixture. When the home fans applauded the dedication of that select few, the Leigh chairman though we were taking the p!ss, took offence, and it nearly kicked off in the directors' box
 
Yes it's a dismal league, but keep faith and you'll have some great laughs along the way, and the passion of the fans who remain loyal will become deeper than you ever thought possible.

It's not "bye bye", honest!
 
The Conference (or National League as it will be next season) is a dreadful place for a proper club to find itself, but I'm sure a club with Tranmere's tradition and passionate support will find its way back, even if it takes a few years. It took York City 8 gruelling years, so anything less than that is a bonus!
 
There are more ex-League clubs than ever competing at that level, so there'll be some great battles with the likes of Wrexham, Lincoln, Chester, Halifax, Barrow, Bristol Rovers and/or Grimsby, etc to compensate for the Braintrees and Dovers.
 
The biggest shock we got (apart from not getting promoted at the first seven attempts) was the tiny away followings that came to Bootham Crescent, the worst being Leigh RMI who brought 11 to a Tuesday night fixture. When the home fans applauded the dedication of that select few, the Leigh chairman though we were taking the p!ss, took offence, and it nearly kicked off in the directors' box
 
Yes it's a dismal league, but keep faith and you'll have some great laughs along the way, and the passion of the fans who remain loyal will become deeper than you ever thought possible.

It's not "bye bye", honest!
 
The Conference (or National League as it will be next season) is a dreadful place for a proper club to find itself, but I'm sure a club with Tranmere's tradition and passionate support will find its way back, even if it takes a few years. It took York City 8 gruelling years, so anything less than that is a bonus!
 
There are more ex-League clubs than ever competing at that level, so there'll be some great battles with the likes of Wrexham, Lincoln, Chester, Halifax, Barrow, Bristol Rovers and/or Grimsby, etc to compensate for the Braintrees and Dovers.
 
The biggest shock we got (apart from not getting promoted at the first seven attempts) was the tiny away followings that came to Bootham Crescent, the worst being Leigh RMI who brought 11 to a Tuesday night fixture. When the home fans applauded the dedication of that select few, the Leigh chairman though we were taking the p!ss, took offence, and it nearly kicked off in the directors' box
 
Yes it's a dismal league, but keep faith and you'll have some great laughs along the way, and the passion of the fans who remain loyal will become deeper than you ever thought possible.

Ye cannae shove yer granny of a bus

On a side note I have also heard the way some saints players, past and present have spoken to women at various drinking establishments in Perth. Vulgar is the only word for it.

Whilst I'm all for rehabilation football is different to other careers in that every single day you're in the spotlight and whether you agree with it or not footballers are role models. On that basis I would not be okay with Ched Evans being anywhere near my football club.

It could be a different story if he was genuinely sorry and helping rape charities etc (ie how any criminal should reintroduce themselves into society) but he hasn't and instead is piling his money into a website that treats the victim like a criminal.

People who want him- if you have children, would you really be okay with them cheering on a convicted rapist? Or leaving them alone with him to do a q and a similar to the one Scobbie did?

Hmmmm. Difficult this. Decisions, decisions.
 
Do I go on a public forum and speculate about the personal business of a brilliantly talented young man who gave us so much fun and pleasure? Who worked his arse off for us?
 
Or do I remember last night, when during the Scotland game the camera lingered for a second on the Scottish subs bench....and, astonishingly, there was a scruffy wee Newburgh c unt who just months ago was playing at McD for errr St Johnstone. Strong drink had been taken (obviously, Scotland were playing) but I was near to tears. I felt pretty close to how I felt when I watched my laddies graduated (just).
 
Some of you need a wee perspective adjustment. It was an honour to watch young Mr May play for us, and I wish him very piece of good luck.
 
Outside chance of 5 mins against our Imperial Masters on Tuesday? Now that would make my year.......      

Israel flag was spotted on the tv at the Santiago Bernabéu Stadium on Tuesday during a European match. Look forward to hearing what the punishment will be.

i was thinking about getting yorkshire saint on a yorkshire flag as im from yorkshire, will this get the club fined or me banned? what a joke

Its just another type of censorship