Edstar101 Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9155989/shakhtar-striker-maicon-killed-in-a-car-crash-in-donetsk 25 years old...tragic. No details that I have seen, but you immediately think, young guy, high performance car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintdunc Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 A life lost so young tragic Rip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiangsu Sainty Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 No more tragic than any other car-crash death, and we have thousands of them closer to home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babychunder Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 No more tragic than any other car-crash death, and we have thousands of them closer to home Shame on you for that post. That poor laddies family will never see him again. sixties saintee and Mike 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiangsu Sainty Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Shame on you for that post. That poor laddies family will never see him again. How? I didn't say it wasn't tragic, but that any given car crash fatality in scotland or anywhere else is equally as tragic, but you don't see people making posts about them. I could understand the differentiation if it was a footballer that will affect people's enjoyment of the sport, but he didn't even play for Shaktar. Again, to clarify, tragic indeed, but no more tragic than thousands of others which nobody posts about in here. The only difference being this guy was a footballer (that nobody posting had heard of till he died) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babychunder Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Your post was dismissive of the other posters here expressing their sympathy. It also trivialised the matter of another's death by trying to portray it as a statistic. You want a spade? sixties saintee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Your post was dismissive of the other posters here expressing their sympathy. It also trivialised the matter of another's death by trying to portray it as a statistic. You want a spade? Well said BC, with people like that you wont get any sense, thats why I did not respond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiangsu Sainty Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) I guess we will just agree to disagree. You can continue to try and place some kind of value on meaningless RIP posts on a meaningless forum about someone people had never heard of (not a crime in itself), but that they only consider remotely important because he played football. I'll continue to find it pathetic and considerably insulting that the fact he kicked a ball around differentiated him in any way from any other death on the planet that goes unmentioned. Should I keep up the modern-day football cliches and say that your posts were a "Classy touch"? Folk these days can't stop fawning over each other to out-remember each other and it is nothing more than for show. RE the "poor laddies family", I never said it wasn't tragic, and it goes without saying that was I actually speaking to them I would take a different tone, as would be mandated by common sense, but see my "meaningless forum" argument above. Edited February 12, 2014 by Jiangsu Sainty HertsSaintee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranmere Saintee Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Surely JS it would have been better to just totally ignore the thread rather than making comments that others were bound to find offensive? babychunder, mainstand, AthensSaint and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiangsu Sainty Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 There is categorically nothing offensive about suggesting other deaths around the world are equally as tragic as this guys. As in literally nothing, not one single thing. The offensiveness started when someone called me shameful and implied I was somehow insulting the boys family. I can see you point about staying out of it, but the offensiveness in no way began with me. I find posting tributes to footballers you have never heard of but ignoring deaths of local teenagers in car crashes far more offensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babychunder Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 What's this nonsense about "footballers you have never heard of"? Maicon was one of the best attacking RBs of his generation. He was a first pick for Inter Milan for many years and made over 50 appearances for Brasil. He didn't do that well at Man City, granted, but even during his short time there I expect a large number of UK footie fans watched him play and know who he is. Maybe you haven't heard of him, but I certainly have. Take your head out of your rear end, and when you do try to look elsewhere than at yourself in the mirror, and you might learn a thing or two about life - including how to show respect towards unfortunate people who have lost their lives before their time. sixties saintee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiangsu Sainty Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) What's this nonsense about "footballers you have never heard of"? Maicon was one of the best attacking RBs of his generation. He was a first pick for Inter Milan for many years and made over 50 appearances for Brasil. He didn't do that well at Man City, granted, but even during his short time there I expect a large number of UK footie fans watched him play and know who he is. Maybe you haven't heard of him, but I certainly have. That Maicon is alive and well and still playing for Roma. Do you want your spade back? The dead Maicon played lower league football in Ukraine, and 6 times for Shaktar 2 years ago. What differntiates that Maicon, from any other death? especially ones closer to home. Edited February 12, 2014 by Jiangsu Sainty babychunder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babychunder Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Ah well easy mistake, both Brasilian, both very talented My point about disrespect still stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiangsu Sainty Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Ah well easy mistake, both Brasilian, both very talented My point about disrespect still stands. My point about not actually disrespecting anybody still stands, given that I agreed the death was tragic but questioned why it matters to some people given deaths of local, probably St. Johnstone supporting, teenagers don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babychunder Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 But the thread wasn't about local Saints fans dying was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpaw Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Although I did smile at bc mourning the death of the wrong Maicon (was it wrong to smile?), maybe we should just close the thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babychunder Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Fine with me. Jiangsu Sainty and Southpaw 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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