Two Js Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 Playing devils advocat here but if Peaso obstructed a Livi player from entering the box then a indirect free ould be the outcome? Surely he would have had to obstruct him AFTER Sheerin had kicked the ball but BEFORE the ball crossed the line, otherwise the ball is not in play so no freekick can be given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 It looks like the last thing he does before the kick is taken is to warn the players at the top of the picture not to enter the box. When the kick is taken Peaso is well in the box, clearly ahead of 2 Livi guys making him the first person to commit an offence. When the ref is walking over to give the free kick, his left arm looks as if it is indicating someone had gone into the box. I'm sure he has penalised Peaso for encroaching and has given the wrong decision with the free kick instead of a retake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 This is taken from the SFA website: http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish_football.cfm?curpageid=676 Infringements/Sanctions If the referee gives the signal for a penalty kick to be taken, and before the ball is in play, one of the following situations occurs: The player taking the penalty kick infringes the Laws of the Game: the referee allows the kick to proceed if the ball enters the goal, the kick is retaken if the ball does not enter the goal, the referee stops play and restarts the match with an indirect free kick to the defending team from the place where the infringement occurred The goalkeeper infringes the Laws of the Game: the referee allows the kick to proceed if the ball enters the goal, a goal is awarded if the ball does not enter the goal, the kick is retaken A team-mate of the player taking the kick infringes the Laws of the Game: the referee allows the kick to proceed if the ball enters the goal, the kick is retaken if the ball does not enter the goal, the referee stops play and restarts the match with an indirect free kick to the defending team form the place where the infringement occured A team-mate of the goalkeeper infringes the Laws of the Game: the referee allows the kick to proceed if the ball enters the goal, a goal is awarded if the ball does not enter the goal, the kick is retaken A player of both the defending team and the attacking team infringe the Laws of the Game: the kick is retaken If, after the penalty kick has been taken: The kicker touches the ball a second time (except with his hands) before it has touched another player: an indirect free kick is awarded to the opposing team, the kick to be taken from the place where the infringement occurred* The kicker deliberately handles the ball before it has touched another player: a direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team, the kick to be taken from the place where the infringement occurred* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 In the sun today it had an interview with john rowbotham and he said the goal should have counted or been re taken. because the ball was hit directly at goal and went it he would have given the goal and if there had been an "assault" on the defender by an attacker he would have let play go on then dealt with that issue. so his view, although he never saw the incident is that if the ball had been saved and come back into play he would give the free kick if mcdonald had fouled one of their players. according to the sun the sfa want answers from the ref. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chips for tea Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 In the sun today it had an interview with john rowbotham and he said the goal should have counted or been re taken. because the ball was hit directly at goal and went it he would have given the goal and if there had been an "assault" on the defender by an attacker he would have let play go on then dealt with that issue. so his view, although he never saw the incident is that if the ball had been saved and come back into play he would give the free kick if mcdonald had fouled one of their players. according to the sun the sfa want answers from the ref. Good to hear that,but i suppose the chances of us being awarded the goal will be nowt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford 72 Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 So do we think the ref thought Sheerin missed, or did he just screw up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 So do we think the ref thought Sheerin missed, or did he just screw up? Apparently Mark Proctor was told by the ref that the decision was made as the result of a new ruling. Is there any evidence of this new ruling anywhere? I imagine tomorrow's PA might provide a little more information than the other papers have given so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Apparently Mark Proctor was told by the ref that the decision was made as the result of a new ruling. Is there any evidence of this new ruling anywhere? I imagine tomorrow's PA might provide a little more information than the other papers have given so far. The PAs latest rule change scoop will be that its going to increase the number of points for a win to 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nairn Saint Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 The PAs latest rule change scoop will be that its going to increase the number of points for a win to 3. Not before they announce that substitutions have been introduced into the modern game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint5588 Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Playing devils advocat here but if Peaso obstructed a Livi player from entering the box then a indirect free ould be the outcome? but the indirect freekick was given inside the box so surely if he was obstructing the player then he would have been awarding the freekick on the edge of the penalty area where the 1st offence was commited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazel1884 Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 If it comes down to goal difference at the end of the season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
california_saintee Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Okay, time to own up to having actually qualified as a referee... I wasn't at the game, but there's no "new rule" that would make sense here. The indirect free kick to the defense should be awarded if and only if the kick is missed and an attacking player commits an offense. So that guy's clearly fudged up and I wouldn't be surprised if the SFA discipline him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templeofsaints Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Even Bill Leckie was backing us in his column today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Maskrey Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 It looks to me like the ref's messed up and realised after that he should've awarded the goal, or at least a retake, has owned up to his error to Coyle and Proctor and both managers have laughed it off and refused to criticise him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford 72 Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 PA, in as subtle a way as possible, basically suggests the ref made an arse of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 This really is basic stuff. If a ref can get this wrong ,what other rules can he get wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJC Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 I wonder if the club still paid Sheerinho his goal bonus, after all he did score a perfectly good goal. That ref was absolutely shocking throughout and was clearly awarding decisions based on what was shouted from the stands, the linesman in front of us was totally incompetent as well- why did neither linesman call the ref over to ask what the hell he was playing at awarding Livi a free kick when we should have been given a goal? I know the refs in charge but the linesman are there for a reason too and should have said something to him at the very least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broggy Man Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 Did we ever get any answers on this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCarry One Nil Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 I had Sheerin as my Young Soul Rebels Captain in the Fantasy Lower League and would be overall top if the penalty had been allowed - absolute disgrace ;o) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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