Slowhand Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Seems the USH may have hit a problem, Geoff is quoted as saying the pipes may have become iced up as the water temperature you use to thaw the ground is 42 degrees and the area frozen is the furthest point from the boiler and 42 degrees is not warm enough to unfreeze the pipes once they start. The USH pipes are meant to be 200mm below the surface but GB is calling in the experts to check as he says they may be up to 50mm higher than that as they were laid by dragging them through with a tractor. We will wait and see but reading a lot of 'our fans' thoughts on here I am sure they will only be happy once we have sanctions against us and a huge fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corned Beef Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Lack of information is always a problem John but the 'power' to distribute information is not always in Saints gift - and I mean via national media not a Twitter account. The reason that the Saints v Falkirk, Airdrie v Saints game attracted minimal media interest is that the national media platforms are more interested in circulating information that involves Rangers and Celtic. They pursue easy stories about old firm daily. Rather than question why a near bankrupt club were staying in a luxury Perthshire hotel they'd rather publish Martin Bain's views as if they are the truth. Saints are not perfect but nor are they getting a fair crack of the whip. Of course they are more interested in circulating info about the OF, they'd be daft not to seeing as they are the biggest supported teams in the country. Of course you could argue thats one of the reasons they are the biggest supported teams.... Paranoia used to be the realm of the Celtic support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavel Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 From the daily rag after our game with falkirk. "We will draw our conclusions from those and take things from there. If it has to be forwarded to the SPL board there is a meeting in a couple of weeks." Motherwell were hit with a suspended fine of £20,000 last season following difficulties with their pitch. And a similar punishment could be issued this time if Falkirk are deemed to have been culpable for the postponement. Oh dear. Dont know if that happened yet, surely a warning would suffice as its the first time. btw it was -8 this morning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff was right!! Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 From the daily rag after our game with falkirk. "We will draw our conclusions from those and take things from there. If it has to be forwarded to the SPL board there is a meeting in a couple of weeks." Motherwell were hit with a suspended fine of £20,000 last season following difficulties with their pitch. And a similar punishment could be issued this time if Falkirk are deemed to have been culpable for the postponement. Oh dear. Dont know if that happened yet, surely a warning would suffice as its the first time. btw it was -8 this morning! I'm sure I read somewhere that Falkirk are not going to be punished for the new year postponement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Wallace Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 From the daily rag after our game with falkirk. "We will draw our conclusions from those and take things from there. If it has to be forwarded to the SPL board there is a meeting in a couple of weeks." Motherwell were hit with a suspended fine of £20,000 last season following difficulties with their pitch. And a similar punishment could be issued this time if Falkirk are deemed to have been culpable for the postponement. Oh dear. Dont know if that happened yet, surely a warning would suffice as its the first time. btw it was -8 this morning! a suspended fine is just a warning though. You only have to pay it if you are naughty again in the period the fine is suspended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
541ntees Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 dont know i this has been mentiond elsewhere but im confused as to why saints choose to select certain games handing out vouchers. im pretty certain it wasnt sold out so why weren't vouchers handed out at the hibs game? Also now we have more time til the next rangers game if we have any more home games in between get the vouchers handed out. not eveyone is on wap so so even if it means only an extra few turn up its still more saintees at a game an the club should do everything to get the supporters in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Good bit with Geoff in the daily record - http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/st-johnstone/2010/02/22/late-call-off-at-st-johnstone-will-never-be-repeated-vows-apologetic-saints-chairman-geoff-brown-86908-22060815/ as said above - ""I didn't even consider that anything might be wrong with the pitch on Saturday. We're still not sure what's happened but I fear there's ice in our pipes at the ground. "Around Christmas we were around minus 16 at McDiarmid Park. Those pipes are supposed to be just over 200 millimetres into the ground but considering they were put in with just a plough that pulled them through - they could easily be 50 mm above that. "So if there's ice in the pipes and its stopped the water going round, that's where the problem could lie. With undersoil heating you heat the water to 42 degrees. "To thaw ice at that temperature would take a bit of doing. There's obviously been a malfunction in our system. "The area where the problem was is around 120 metres away from our boiler house, it's the furthest away part of the pitch. But we'll have the guys in tomorrow to try to get it sorted out." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_Beatson Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Can almost guarantee this game gets rescheduled for March 31, meaning another game has been rescheduled for a date where I'm on holiday. Magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave H Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 I am a fan yet again disappointed at a postponed game due to a frozen pitch, what makes it so frustrating is the time the game gets called off. However you will not see any over reaction from me, I'll just get on with my life. Geez a shout for the rearranged game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavel Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Can almost guarantee this game gets rescheduled for March 31, meaning another game has been rescheduled for a date where I'm on holiday. Magic. As long as it doesn't interfere with preparations for an old firm game then thats all that matters Even if we have to play 3 games in 6 days to accomodate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Much as I would have liked to see it played this week it would be very difficult, all the SPL referees are in Spain on a training week...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoro79 Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Having a discussion at work can anyone remember why the game against Aberdeen was off? Was it the pitch or surrounding area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecat Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 was called of because of a waterlogged pitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro tull Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 just heard has the groundsman been sacked...my mate at school knows him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecat Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 just heard has the groundsman been sacked...my mate at school knows him? so its his fault we got frost saturday night. its his fault the USH is frozen. its his fault the stand casts a shadow over the pitch. its his fault they cut corners and made a balls up when they installed the USH by not putting it down far enough what a dahm shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1962 Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Much as I would have liked to see it played this week it would be very difficult, all the SPL referees are in Spain on a training week...... An ideal opportunity then. At least they wont be able to **** it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over the Road Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 just heard has the groundsman been sacked...my mate at school knows him? If that's true, he's been used as a scapegoat for Saturday! The amount of work that Chris and Stevie do round the ground (not just looking after the pitch) during the week and match day is what people would think 4/5 people would be employed for. Being the size of club we are, we do not have the luxury of having a groundsman who's dedicated to tending to only the pitch. If it has happened, then I know where I'm looking for who's deflecting blame from themselves! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ghost of Jim Morton Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 If that's true, he's been used as a scapegoat for Saturday! The amount of work that Chris and Stevie do round the ground (not just looking after the pitch) during the week and match day is what people would think 4/5 people would be employed for. Being the size of club we are, we do not have the luxury of having a groundsman who's dedicated to tending to only the pitch. If it has happened, then I know where I'm looking for who's deflecting blame from themselves! Go on then , where??? For me, the buck should stop with Duff , but until this is confirmed I will keep my powder dry.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over the Road Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 For me, the buck should stop with Duff , but until this is confirmed I will keep my powder dry.. You and me both Ghostie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1962 Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Go on then , where??? For me, the buck should stop with Duff , but until this is confirmed I will keep my powder dry.. That statement alone is the first salvo. The accusation is not keeping your powder dry. Evidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ghost of Jim Morton Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 That statement alone is the first salvo. The accusation is not keeping your powder dry. Evidence? Not at all John:D I am merely stating that as the MD and the man who is in charge of the day to day running of the club that Stewart Duff is ultimately responsible for everything.. And by responsible, I don't mean that every thing is his fault, I mean it is his responsibilty. Ultimately, major decisions are or should be down to him.. I hope that's cleared that up for you:wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1962 Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Not at all John:D I am merely stating that as the MD and the man who is in charge of the day to day running of the club that Stewart Duff is ultimately responsible for everything.. And by responsible, I don't mean that every thing is his fault, I mean it is his responsibilty. Ultimately, major decisions are or should be down to him.. I hope that's cleared that up for you:wink: Certainly has Ghostie. I am just concerned that we dont start another witch hunt. Now I didn't think that was your objective but we are carrying a number of reactionaries right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 I'm really getting sick of reading anything on the bbc these days... Chick Young.... "In Perth, where of all places you would think they might know about the land, they couldn't look out of a window and decide the playing surface was a bit iffy. They should hang their heads in shame at St Johnstone. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calypso Kid Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 I'm really getting sick of reading anything on the bbc these days... Chick Young.... "In Perth, where of all places you would think they might know about the land, they couldn't look out of a window and decide the playing surface was a bit iffy. They should hang their heads in shame at St Johnstone. " He's a funny guy Charles, that sort of patter had run it's course a decade ago. What next, cardboard cut-outs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancientsaint Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 I assume this discount will apply to Home fans as well, many of whom will have travelled from Perthshire and beyond this morning I also assume we will see a £2 reduction in season ticket prices Dare i say........it will all depend upon wether we are in the SPL next term !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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