Cagey Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 Good to see Callum Davidson has eventually got a new gig. A two and a half year contract with Queens Park. Does that mean he is off gardening leave with Saints. Good to see Liam as his assistant. Good luck them both. lindz105, Smarmy Arab and Ritspeed 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MySpazz Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 He looked so uncomfortable in the photo, asked to show excitment and hold a scarf above his head! Mind, he is good at Hampden! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pezza70 Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 Good on him and Liam, hopefully both clubs don’t cross paths in the championship in the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 13 hours ago, Cagey said: Does that mean he is off gardening leave with Saints. Why do you think he was on gardening leave? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted January 10 Author Report Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, blueheaven said: Why do you think he was on gardening leave? Either that or big payoff. Nobody just walks away with over 2 years of contract left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 30 minutes ago, Cagey said: Either that or big payoff. Nobody just walks away with over 2 years of contract left. I only ask because you said it in a way that suggested you knew for a fact that he was on gardening leave. From what I've read (and people can correct me if I'm wrong on this), if he was on gardening leave he would still be contracted to Saints, which would mean Saints would be entitled to ask Queens Park for compensation (if we wanted to be difficult about it!). I'm sure there must have been some sort of pay-off involved but he'll have had a contract that allowed the club to get rid of him. Same with Macca. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 I think when you get sacked, the club keeps paying your wages until the end of the contract, or you sign a new one. Is that correct? So presumably that has saved us a two wages - Craig too. Might mean an extra player in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 1 minute ago, Linky said: I think when you get sacked, the club keeps paying your wages until the end of the contract, or you sign a new one. Is that correct? So presumably that has saved us a two wages - Craig too. Might mean an extra player in? I don't think that's correct. Why would these guys continue to get their full salaries when they're not doing any work? Both have been doing alternative work for a while now - Davidson has been covering games for BBC (granted, that'll have been freelance) and Craig was coaching at Arbroath. I know there have been some instances of managers being put on gardening leave but I'd be surprised if that was the norm. I think they'll have been given some sort of pay-off, probably paid in instalments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 30 minutes ago, blueheaven said: I don't think that's correct. Why would these guys continue to get their full salaries when they're not doing any work? Both have been doing alternative work for a while now - Davidson has been covering games for BBC (granted, that'll have been freelance) and Craig was coaching at Arbroath. I know there have been some instances of managers being put on gardening leave but I'd be surprised if that was the norm. I think they'll have been given some sort of pay-off, probably paid in instalments. But you can't just tear up someone's contract unless there's a disciplinary. I think bigger clubs would give it all in one pay off, but we wouldn't be able to afford that, so presumably just keep paying the wage Just found this old article: Roberto Di Matteo is still being paid his full wage - £130,000-a-week - by the club. The Italian did not agree a pay-off settlement when he was axed last season, and will continue to be paid that amount until June 2014 unless he decides to take up employment elsewhere. Di Matteo has reportedly turned down several offers both in the Premier League and from abroad since his departure, as there are few clubs who could match the lucrative £6.76m annual salary he was earning at Stamford Bridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 Im certain it was reported that Davidson had waived his right to any compensation etc., when he left the club, but i cant find it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, Linky said: But you can't just tear up someone's contract unless there's a disciplinary. I think bigger clubs would give it all in one pay off, but we wouldn't be able to afford that, so presumably just keep paying the wage Just found this old article: Roberto Di Matteo is still being paid his full wage - £130,000-a-week - by the club. The Italian did not agree a pay-off settlement when he was axed last season, and will continue to be paid that amount until June 2014 unless he decides to take up employment elsewhere. Di Matteo has reportedly turned down several offers both in the Premier League and from abroad since his departure, as there are few clubs who could match the lucrative £6.76m annual salary he was earning at Stamford Bridge I'd be surprised if most football managers don't have something in their contract that allows the club to terminate the contract and sets out what happens in that instance. Davidson would certainly have been entitled to some sort of compensation but I'm not convinced he's entitled to his full salary for the remainder of his contract. That Di Matteo example is from quite a while ago now and who knows what a club like Chelsea might have been promising people at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 25 minutes ago, RandomGuy said: Im certain it was reported that Davidson had waived his right to any compensation etc., when he left the club, but i cant find it again. Was this because it was mutual, rather than an out and out sacking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 40 minutes ago, Linky said: Was this because it was mutual, rather than an out and out sacking? From his interviews in the last few months I really don't believe it would be mutual. He believed he was doing a good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSJ.84 Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 41 minutes ago, garydavidson said: From his interviews in the last few months I really don't believe it would be mutual. He believed he was doing a good job. https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/23751364.callum-davidson-reveals-st-johnstone-win-bust-ultimatum/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 7 hours ago, Linky said: Was this because it was mutual, rather than an out and out sacking? Not a clue tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerthSaint01 Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 Don’t believe Davidson waived compensation, and I’m also aware he received a significant (closer to 100,000 than 10,000) 5 figure bonus for the club staying up last season despite him no longer being here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setting Son Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, PerthSaint01 said: Don’t believe Davidson waived compensation, and I’m also aware he received a significant (closer to 100,000 than 10,000) 5 figure bonus for the club staying up last season despite him no longer being here. Even more reason to hate him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 21 hours ago, garydavidson said: From his interviews in the last few months I really don't believe it would be mutual. He believed he was doing a good job. The official line from the club was that it was mutual but I assume that's said as part of an agreement or negotiation between club and manager, and possibly does affect the compensation situation. Don't think there's any doubt that in reality it was a sacking, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerthSaint01 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Just asked what he’d have changed if he had the chance again at Saints on STV… His answer - can you guess it? ”not a lot, we had a lot of success” rik2304 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted January 12 Author Report Share Posted January 12 50 minutes ago, PerthSaint01 said: Just asked what he’d have changed if he had the chance again at Saints on STV… His answer - can you guess it? ”not a lot, we had a lot of success” Did he not say that if he hadn't been forced to change his formation against Livi he wouldn't have lost his job. I assume he thought he would have won that game and everything would have been hunky dory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 33 minutes ago, Cagey said: Did he not say that if he hadn't been forced to change his formation against Livi he wouldn't have lost his job. I assume he thought he would have won that game and everything would have been hunky dory. He knew he had to win so he over thought it and changed formation and lost. Reckons the mistake was changing from his beloved shitey tactics. He's learned nothing during his time off. Graeme S, PerthSaint01 and Cagey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 14 hours ago, rik2304 said: He knew he had to win so he over thought it and changed formation and lost. Reckons the mistake was changing from his beloved shitey tactics. He's learned nothing during his time off. If he genuinely thinks he was sacked because of losing one game, that's absolutely staggering. As is him saying he wouldn't change much if he had the chance again. I know it hasn't been brilliant for us since he left but I'm so, so glad he's gone. Cagey and Scott1884 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crieffsaintandy Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Legend for the cup wins and a great player, but just listening to him in the radio the last few months and tge new manager interview going on about giving youth at queen's a chance, he's completely wrapped up in his own bubble and a bit delusional! Liam Craig his yes man? As he watched that shit fest for the last few years and obviously thinks it was fine as he's with him again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenrothes saintee Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Good win for him at Raith today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted January 13 Author Report Share Posted January 13 Congratulations to Callum on a win in his first game against top of league Raith after going a goal down. A Davidson team that scored more than one goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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