101 Saint Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Whatever happens, an improvement on last year's build up is certainly required. Spot on. The team looked short of stamina (again) on Saturday. Training at altitude/ with heat might be beneficial. Our football is not restricted to sub-zero temperatures. We won't out play many in the SPL we're gonna need to start adding effort to determination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintkev Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Okay, we looked unfit on occasions, but does anyone think we actually lacked in effort on a regular basis? I think we showed effort and determination to a point where it affected out ability!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CynicalSaintee Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Spot on. The team looked short of stamina (again) on Saturday. Training at altitude/ with heat might be beneficial. Our football is not restricted to sub-zero temperatures. We won't out play many in the SPL we're gonna need to start adding effort to determination. That would be ideal. If you look at a recent international, Bolivia 6 - Argies 1, it shows how much of a massive effect fitness can have on performance. The Bolivian national stadium is the highest in the world, and the Argentinians simply were not used to the conditions, and despite being some of the best players in the world, they completely crumbled. Some long hikes and half-marathons needed, methinks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Saint Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 That would be ideal. If you look at a recent international, Bolivia 6 - Argies 1, it shows how much of a massive effect fitness can have on performance. The Bolivian national stadium is the highest in the world, and the Argentinians simply were not used to the conditions, and despite being some of the best players in the world, they completely crumbled. Some long hikes and half-marathons needed, methinks! The point is that God gives players different levels of skill and fitness. The skill is optimised daily, the fitness (particularly endurance) is not, it merely ticks over. Training in an atmosphere where oxygen is less dense creates more red blood cells such that when the athletes return to sea level, they have a performance boost. Most clubs struggle at the start of a season and it remains a possible path of exploitation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 That would be ideal. If you look at a recent international, Bolivia 6 - Argies 1, it shows how much of a massive effect fitness can have on performance. The Bolivian national stadium is the highest in the world, and the Argentinians simply were not used to the conditions, and despite being some of the best players in the world, they completely crumbled. Some long hikes and half-marathons needed, methinks! That's it settled then - a pre-season tour of Bolivia it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noose76 Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 It's going to be Leeds or Everton visiting McD for the 125 year anniversary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sainteesean Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 That's it settled then - a pre-season tour of Bolivia it is! that would be bangin.. not that i could afford it/get anyone to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold_Bishop Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 http://www.pafc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10364~1649073,00.html Maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryangordon86 Posted May 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 A tour of South America! Im sure a few of the Edinburgh boys would be in their element!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Son of Fairbairn Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 http://www.pafc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10364~1649073,00.html Maybe? Looks like Plymouth will be playing their couple of games at the uni - is that closed doors ? I see Norwich City are coming up North too. What about Millwall with Dels connections - they were at Dundee last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancientsaint Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Mexico would set us up nicely for all the swines in the SPL. (aaatchoooo oink) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest St. Clarkey Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Being realistic, we are looking at one maybe two big games this pre-season... and it looks like Everton and Bolton/Leeds. I reckon we will play Plymouth too, then head down south or to Ireland for a tour. I can't see us going abroad this pre-season.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint jason Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 A tour of South America! Im sure a few of the Edinburgh boys would be in their element!! Whatever do you mean? South Quensferry surely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Being realistic, we are looking at one maybe two big games this pre-season... and it looks like Everton and Bolton/Leeds. I reckon we will play Plymouth too, then head down south or to Ireland for a tour. I can't see us going abroad this pre-season.... If recent history is anything to go by, it'll be one home friendly and that'll be it. Not sure where this Everton/Bolton/Leeds stuff is coming from, but if there's any truth in that then I doubt you'll get more than one of them coming. Anyone know if Barcelona are coming back to Scotland this summer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford 72 Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Not sure where this Everton/Bolton/Leeds stuff is coming from, but if there's any truth in that then I doubt you'll get more than one of them coming. McInnes mentioned those teams to the two trialists that were training with the squad the Monday after the Dundee game. It seems Everton are the one they are going for (and there's talk of them playing a testimonial at Firhill too) but if Leeds or Bolton are in the area, then it's more than possible we might fit them in as well. A decade ago, it wasn't unusual to play two or three English sides up here remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 A decade ago, it wasn't unusual to play two or three English sides up here remember. True (I miss those days), but I think things have changed quite a bit since then. I'm sure Geoff Brown has said fairly often in recent years that these English clubs try to charge Saints a big fee for coming to play us, and that's why it rarely happens these days. I think trying to protect the pitch also seems to have become more of an issue than it was during the carefree days of regular West Ham and Bolton visits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YELLOW ARMY Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 I would be the way their scummy support behaved last time they were here... Dirty Notlob! explain ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 explain ? Can't remember the exact story, but I'm fairly sure it ended with their supporters trashing the town centre and then, incredibly, setting fire to their own bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Now that we're an SPL lub I think we should go over to Holland or Germany and play some local not necessarily big sides somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 i went tae barrow roddy scored.i remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintkev Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 explain ? I was coming back up from Birkenhead at the same time as they were travelling up and they were being obnoxious cocks all the way up the road in all the service stations... they then caused lots of damage around the town... also a numptie got a taxi back down the road and did a runner without paying, stupidly he did the runner into his own block of flats!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilated Pupil Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 That would be ideal. If you look at a recent international, Bolivia 6 - Argies 1, it shows how much of a massive effect fitness can have on performance. The Bolivian national stadium is the highest in the world, and the Argentinians simply were not used to the conditions, and despite being some of the best players in the world, they completely crumbled. Some long hikes and half-marathons needed, methinks! What???? Have you ever been to La Paz? I have, and regardless of fitness, you need at least 7 days to acclimatise to the elevation of the city. It's 3,600m in altitude. Fitness plays a part, but I would strongly argue that if anything, the argies would be fitter. Acclimatisation to the conditions & flight of ball is more important. This is why a number of federations have complained to FIFA about playing in La Paz as the local team has time to acclimatise to the conditions. I watched Bolivar v Independiente in the Copa del Libertadores a few years ago and the altitude also has an incredible effect on the flight of the ball. It is long range manna from heaven. Independiente were by far the most skillful team, but Bolivar knew that they could hit the ball from 40 yds out, and if on target, would cause the goalie real strife. And it did. Never seen a match or conditions like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford 72 Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Saints were meant to be playing Preston North End on August 1st but that's obviously had to be binned because we're in Co-op Cup action that day. The 125th anniversary match will be in early August though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scobby_SJFC Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 It is becoming more popular again for english teams to play games in Scotland before the season, last years Middlesbourgh, Burnely, Wolves, Prston, Bolton etc all played up here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Saints were meant to be playing Preston North End on August 1st but that's obviously had to be binned because we're in Co-op Cup action that day. . 3 cheers for the co-op then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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