SingaporeSaint Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 (edited) A follow on from another thread that went slightly off topic but posed an interesting question that I feel will split our opinions. I feel that we have had many seasons in the SPL that have meant nothing to anyone apart from Saints fans. A Scottish Cup win would carve our name in history. I for one would swap going down to be Scottish Cup winners. Edited June 3, 2010 by SingaporeSaint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpaw Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 without hesitation.....yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Saint Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Nut, league every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryangordon86 Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Oh yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry hall Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 How anyone could sacrifice an SPL place for a cup is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnstoun Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 How anyone could sacrifice an SPL place for a cup is beyond me. On past evidence we've had the SPL before and will do so again. The Scottish Cup is far more prestigious than half a dozen seasons in the bottom half. It also freshens things up to play small local teams that struggle to reach this level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavel Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 (edited) Its going to be difficult to come back up from the first. So stuff the cup keep the league. Edited June 3, 2010 by pavel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Yes. We've dealt with being in the first before and we will again. I'd absolutely love to see Saints' name on the cup. (Preferably knocking out both Dundee teams and the Old Firm en route). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbear Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Scottish cup ,with out a doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wish i was Joe McGurn Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 to have the name of st johnstone on a national cup trophy for evermore or be in the spl for possibly 1 season more. I would rather have our name on a trophy, that cant be taken away from us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indicator Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 If we were only ever going to win one major event in my lifetime - Yes. We will never win the SPL so it's got to be the Scottish Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angus-saint253 Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Good thread mate . Definitly a yes from me , infact i think i would almost rather win the scottish cup from a lower league . Some of my fondest memories following saints have been the atmosphere at the giant killings , rangers dundee utd motherwell etc , either way i dont think a cup win is TOO unrealistic for us in the next few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Has there ever been a team that got relegated and won the Cup? Generally speaking the better your overall season the more likely you are to have a good Cup run with a few exceptions. For example United had a good season, Hearts did when they won the Cup. So I would go for a top six finish and a Cup victory as being our greatest season - achievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al C Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Has there ever been a team that got relegated and won the Cup? Generally speaking the better your overall season the more likely you are to have a good Cup run with a few exceptions. For example United had a good season, Hearts did when they won the Cup. So I would go for a top six finish and a Cup victory as being our greatest season - achievable. A cliche but the luck of the draw plays a massive part in any Cup win. In my lifetime we have always drawn the strongest team available in any semi final. And then even in some of those we have been desperately unlucky. I don't think Gretna played a SPL team until the final in 2006, same for Hearts when they won it in 1998. We have had sides more than capable of winning it (and arguably have one now) but our luck needs to change for it to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deej Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Good example - Millwall in 2004. FA Cup finalists, played lower league opposition all the way, but got outclassed by United on the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aitchy Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Scottish Cup everytime. The sight of all the Arabs heading through to Hampden, then celebrating for weeks after made me very jealous! Hopefully this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike180279 Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 It took us 7 years to get out of that hell there is no way that anything other than league status should be our priority. It would be super to win the cup and have the monkey off our back by grabbing a piece of silverwear but the level headed pragmatist in me says no comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deej Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 No. Staying in the SPL means more money, more money means better players, better players means more chance of winning cups. It will happen in the next 10-15 years, just be patient. Its only been 126 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDougie Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 SPL for me. Teams in the lower Scottish divisions are looked upon as complete nobodies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE LARK SAINT Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Big FAT yes from me!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnstoun Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Has there ever been a team that got relegated and won the Cup? Dundee United in 1995? In England Middlesbrough got to both cup finals, lost both, and were relegated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopper Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Dundee United in 1995? In England Middlesbrough got to both cup finals, lost both, and were relegated. United won the cup in 94 and were relegated in 95 IIRC. In England, cup finalists being relegated has happened 3 or 4 times in the last 20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefcake Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 as you can see, all the basic glory hunters have got on this topic immediately, grasping desperately with both hands at some silverware, regardless if the club gets relegated and stays in division one for 25 years as they have lost out on the income to attract better quality players and a manager, back room staff. Long trips up north, with small crowds, never on TV, that quick fix, that one day out traded. I say I hope it happens and the club goes down, cos that would be taken by 50% of fans. 3 years later watch the unrest on the forum, aye but the names still on the cup? Anyway, nice to see the sensible posters later on confirming the league, at the highest level possible is the bread n butter of a club with the potential like saints, that if they can continue to improve will no doubt get a bit of both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDougie Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 as you can see, all the basic glory hunters have got on this topic immediately, grasping desperately with both hands at some silverware, regardless if the club gets relegated and stays in division one for 25 years as they have lost out on the income to attract better quality players and a manager, back room staff. Long trips up north, with small crowds, never on TV, that quick fix, that one day out traded. I say I hope it happens and the club goes down, cos that would be taken by 50% of fans. 3 years later watch the unrest on the forum, aye but the names still on the cup? Anyway, nice to see the sensible posters later on confirming the league, at the highest level possible is the bread n butter of a club with the potential like saints, that if they can continue to improve will no doubt get a bit of both. Well said squire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver_blue Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Retain the league status. First Division is awful. More chance of winning it as an SPL team. Would rather qualify for Europe than win the cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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