Edstar101 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 hardly a manical reaction, did you see photo's of McCoist goading the Celtic bench a various stages of the game? no you probably didn't I will stick with my assessment of his reaction as 'maniacal' as that is what it was. Whatever McCoist did, there is no excuse....McCoist is also to blame for his part, but in typical Celtic style, they are trying to blame everyone else (as are Rangers - I have no favouritism - hate them both) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mongy Max Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 (edited) Surely if Lennon's ban has been reduced now, his behaviour and appeal will be set as a precedent. So will this mean that every manager in Scotland can behave like Lennon and get the same or lesser ban as him?? Theyre both a disgrace to scottish football, they should be forced to play closed doors games, have exclusion zones around the ground, opposite dug outs and a big hefty fine. Police/stewards should also search all fans and remove any form of sectarian apparel. If it is sneaked in and spotted, they should be ejected. Never happen though cos the SFA have got **** all bottle. Edited March 4, 2011 by Mongy Max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancientsaint Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 I think this guy is talking a lot of sense - especially the bit about these idiots attending Glasgow Royal Infirmary. I would like to see the police review the TV pictures and charge Lennon and MCoist in particular with inciting violence, along with Diouf and Mjallby. Rangers MUST reconsider McCoist's appointment and Celtic should be sacking Lennon. If the police charge them, then I hope the courts absolutely hammer them. Go to the hospital on any night of the week in Glasgow (his choice of identifying a hospital) and you will see that it is NOT JUST football "fans" that are admitted - its the culture of some parts of the city to sit and booze and booze and fight and to injure maim and kill....He is looking at part of the picture and its only a small part. Lets analise the way that Strathclyde police have "dealt" with the "troubles" prior to ANY game involving either side of the Rangers/Celtic divide. Have Strathclyde Police taken the "letter of the law" in dealing with "songs and chants" at say a Rangers v St.Johnstone league game or a Celtic v St.Johnstone league game. Have they gone into the crowd and weeded out those that sing these songs --NO they have not -they have allowed it to carry on. Have they ensured that "items" have not been allowed into Celtic Park (parkhead wotever) and Ibrox.......I cannnot take in a plastic box containing a liquid for refreshment -but someone can take in a big "boom boom " drum or other musical instrument...why dont they seize those......because iot would "upset" the natives and probably cause more trouble than they want. There is a lot that Strathclyde Police have chosen to "turn a blind eye to" -which if they had dealt with it at the time then it would now be reduced. Yeah the Clubs-Players and management have to be responsible ---But so do those that Police within and without the stadium....so to blame others is a cop-out (nae pun intended). Glasgow has a problem and its NOT just down to a football game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wee john Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 hardly a manical reaction, did you see photo's of McCoist goading the Celtic bench a various stages of the game? no you probably didn't one is as bad as the other Eric. you cannot defend Lennon as he sent his players out to goad Deoff and he himself was giving it large to him from the touchline. they both knew exactly what they were doing. great stuff though, long may it continue:wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 one is as bad as the other Eric. you cannot defend Lennon as he sent his players out to goad Deoff and he himself was giving it large to him from the touchline. they both knew exactly what they were doing. great stuff though, long may it continue:wink: John If your first aider ran on to treat one of your kids and a player barged him would you stand by and do nothing?? Diouff is a disgrace and to deliberately bump into a physio on his way to treat a player is a disgrace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wee john Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 John If your first aider ran on to treat one of your kids and a player barged him would you stand by and do nothing?? Diouff is a disgrace and to deliberately bump into a physio on his way to treat a player is a disgrace. don't get me wrong, diouff is a disgrace and it riles me that he thinks he can come up here and be the big shot, he is a total erse. i was just stating that Lennon is as bad as anyone, eric seems to think he's a wee angel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wee john Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 anyway Main, How was it for top class entertainment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint4ever Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Jim Jeffries is quoted in the paper as saying, "it was compulsive viewing, you couldn't take you eyes off it" just what tv wants. fanndabbydozy entertainment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Openshaw Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 one is as bad as the other Eric. you cannot defend Lennon as he sent his players out to goad Deoff and he himself was giving it large to him from the touchline. they both knew exactly what they were doing. great stuff though, long may it continue:wink: I've read some shite this week, but thats probably the best of all, Doiuf doesn't need goaded he is a scumbag who can't help himself, for causing trouble wherever he goes, It was Doiuf who has been at the centre of the problem in these games since he came to Scotland. As for rangers giving it the whatabouterys saying players were abused in the 2-2 game, well why didn't they speak out about before now, or try to injure Celtic players in the 3-0 game, I would also like to see Bartley taken to task over his comment that the Rangers players were going to get Scott Brown, but as usual nothing will get done, the other night was down to Rangers and Rangers alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancientsaint Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 I've read some shite this week, but thats probably the best of all, Doiuf doesn't need goaded he is a scumbag who can't help himself, for causing trouble wherever he goes, It was Doiuf who has been at the centre of the problem in these games since he came to Scotland. As for rangers giving it the whatabouterys saying players were abused in the 2-2 game, well why didn't they speak out about before now, or try to injure Celtic players in the 3-0 game, I would also like to see Bartley taken to task over his comment that the Rangers players were going to get Scott Brown, but as usual nothing will get done, the other night was down to Rangers and Rangers alone. utter bollox from the green painted man........both sides are as bad as each other and its comments like yours that confirm the problems between the two teams.....racism-sectarianism and bigotry -clear your own houses before anyone else in Scotland gives two ducks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Openshaw Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 utter bollox from the green painted man........both sides are as bad as each other and its comments like yours that confirm the problems between the two teams.....racism-sectarianism and bigotry -clear your own houses before anyone else in Scotland gives two ducks. Take your blue tinted glasses off 3 bookings for Celtic the other night, Motherwell got 5 bookings last Sunday will there be an inquiry into their behaviour, no way. 34 arrests at Celtic Park 26 out of 7,000 Rangers fans 8 from 53,000 Celtic fans, I can see where the problem lies even if you don't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancientsaint Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Take your blue tinted glasses off 3 bookings for Celtic the other night, Motherwell got 5 bookings last Sunday will there be an inquiry into their behaviour, no way. 34 arrests at Celtic Park 26 out of 7,000 Rangers fans 8 from 53,000 Celtic fans, I can see where the problem lies even if you don't The problem lies with both sides irrespective of how many twats got booked or sent off and when you can afford laser treatment i shall gladly come and hold you down when the procedure begins. How many arrests have there been over the years ? How many were Celtic fans How many were Rangers fans They are both wrong Blue or Green . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Is whether or not a lot of people watch the match on TV really relevant to the question of it reflecting badly on Scotland/Scottish football? Millions of people watch The X Factor on Saturday nights - it doesn't mean it's good. People all over the world know who Harold Shipman was, but that doesn't mean he reflects well on the medical profession. Undoubtedly there are people outside Scotland who watch it, but many watch it because they're hoping to see a bit of a brawl. Let's not kid ourselves that they're watching it because they're interested in Scottish football, or that they come away from the experience thinking that Scottish football must be great. I see them both as a huge embarrassment to the country, and it's a problem that's only made worse by the fact that there are so many people who don't even support them but are willing to buy into their manufactured rivalry and make excuses for behaviour that we should be condemning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Take your blue tinted glasses off Blue-tinted glasses? This is a St Johnstone forum: we've all got blue-tinted glasses on. You're the one on here who routinely seems far more interested in supporting someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Neutral Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Take your blue tinted glasses off 3 bookings for Celtic the other night, Motherwell got 5 bookings last Sunday will there be an inquiry into their behaviour, no way. 34 arrests at Celtic Park 26 out of 7,000 Rangers fans 8 from 53,000 Celtic fans, I can see where the problem lies even if you don't Do you have any arrest facts for the OF games that have been played at Ibrox this season Sookie? Purely to bring some balance to the table.... or does this not interest you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Anagram time....Eric Openshaw.....P E N I S C H O A W E R Please, be gone.....your obvious blindness to all that is wrong with Scottish football and, in particular, your beloved Celtic, pains me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indicator Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 (edited) he said last night on the radio that he watched the game in a pub in York, 1st time in 20 years he has watched it in a pub and will never do it again. "it was hatred" pub was packed and he was ready to dive under the table. but nobody outside Scotland cares:shock: Oh - they do but, the majority are exiled Scots. But that is a bit of a flippant observation, there are thousands of Scots living in towns down here and, you'll find that they are the ones who swell the numbers in pubs/clubs for these games. Honestly the general population couldn't give a flying f*** about them. It's embarrassing seeing these people, deluded individuals, who think that people admire them because they support one or other of these two football teams. Nobody is impressed. Of course the E****** in the pubs will watch a match - any match - if they are in the pub but, they just laugh at the antics. As I said previously they just keep shooting themselves in the foot if they really wanted to play in a league outwith Scotland. When's the next match? Edited March 4, 2011 by Indicator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jad Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 hardly a manical reaction, did you see photo's of McCoist goading the Celtic bench a various stages of the game? no you probably didn't It's hardly as if Lennon doesn't have previous. He disgusted me at Tannadice with his run right along the side of the pitch (well out of his technical area), his crowd antics including going into the crowd. He is the biggest winder up going as a boss, yes there are others but they aren't as blatant or have the sense not to do aomething that entices violence/disorder. FACT: after OF matches, domestic violence & other incidents soar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Rourke Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 (edited) It wasn't so very long ago that two football managers were escorted from an SPL ground by the Police during a match. Alex Totten and Walter Smith being the culprits in an unprecedented (and thankfully never repeated) early exit from the "fray." These things happen unfortunately. Personally I'd prevent "away fans" from attending old firm games in future. Miscreant officials such as Lennon and McCoist should be charged with a Breach of the Peace by the Police and their actions dealt with through the procurator fiscal service. There is a clear precedent in Scottish football of criminal activity being dealt with in this way with Duncan Ferguson's assault of Raith Rovers John Mcstay resulting in a term of incarceration. For all the bluff and bluster of the Strathclyde Police Federation representative last week, the police need to "man-up" and take the initiative here. There is a clear criminal offence having been committed in front of millions of witnesses with Lennon and McCoist squaring up to one another. Once they sort that out they can start acting upon the vile sectarian abuse that they choose to ignore time and time again which is, afterall, symptomatic of all that is wrong with Scottish football and indeed our larger society. Edited March 4, 2011 by O'Rourke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJ Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 Jeesoo...and they sacked for Gray & Keys for having views stuck in the dark ages. FTOF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Openshaw Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 Anagram time....Eric Openshaw.....P E N I S C H O A W E R Please, be gone.....your obvious blindness to all that is wrong with Scottish football and, in particular, your beloved Celtic, pains me Very good no real point to make, so you have to resort to abuse:roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Openshaw Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 It's hardly as if Lennon doesn't have previous. He disgusted me at Tannadice with his run right along the side of the pitch (well out of his technical area), his crowd antics including going into the crowd. He is the biggest winder up going as a boss, yes there are others but they aren't as blatant or have the sense not to do aomething that entices violence/disorder. FACT: after OF matches, domestic violence & other incidents soar. We're talking about Wednesday's game, where Lennon was provoked by Diouf and McCoist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingaporeSaint Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 When is the next installment, cannae wait !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancientsaint Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 We're talking about Wednesday's game, where Lennon was provoked by Diouf and McCoist Doth mr lennon not contribute to the - lf someone offendeth thee -turnest thy other cheek -he had the opportunity to walk away and ignore the remarks -but he is a hot head out of control. I will concede that Mcoist and dooooof should also be hammered as a result. 2 wrongs do not make a right - they all had a responsibility to behave as they are "kingpins" in respect of fan behaviour.......EVERYONE connected with both clubs have a responsibility to "behave" and if they "cant stand the heat" then get out of the kitchen. Hopefully Mcoist and Lennon will be banned from leading their teams out at hampden in the next 2 weeks - where we may see another on pitch riot between opposing supporters and the lovely Strathclyde polis on their white chargers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranmere Saintee Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 We're talking about Wednesday's game, where Lennon was provoked by Diouf and McCoist And Lennon just stood there and never abused Rangers players when they were within close proximity of him!! Mr Self Control:roll: Get over yourself and look in the mirror - Both clubs, managers and players have covered themselves in nothing but shame all season and have brought the game north of the border into dis-repute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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