SaintDougie Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 For the longevity of the club then yes go for it, as long as there is something adequate put in its place. Maybe even something a little different that no other Scottish club has (not sure what though). Like others I foresee the away fans being located in the Ormond stand, as well as the Scoreboard being relocated up that end too. You never know though, done correctly this could actually bring a little life back to McDiarmid in a strange sort of way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryangordon86 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Could build a small stand with a bar for away supporters. My one concern would be ST holders getting relocated as I imagine the OF might get the East Stand if numbers suffice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingaporeSaint Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Could build a small stand with a bar for away supporters. My one concern would be ST holders getting relocated as I imagine the OF might get the East Stand if numbers suffice When is the penny going to drop, nobody cares about season ticket holders ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_mac Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Would agree with most being said on this thread tbh. McD rarely gets a crowd of over 7,000 never mind 10,000 so is there much need for the north stand. If it does go ahead, i would like to see terracing in replace of the stand but i'm not sure if this is legal or not? Anyone able to clear this issue up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro frae the Hedro Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I have been in the north stand twice ,once for a rugby match Scotland v Japan?which resulted in a record win for the Scots and the second time was for the Elton John concert and I suspect that that may have been the last time the ground was completeley full! Actually it may be that concerts like that would become a thing of the past without it, however since there has only ever been the one it's not really a reason to turn down the cash! Like some others I think there may be a long game going on here and a future move may be on the cards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Would agree with most being said on this thread tbh. McD rarely gets a crowd of over 7,000 never mind 10,000 so is there much need for the north stand. If it does go ahead, i would like to see terracing in replace of the stand but i'm not sure if this is legal or not? Anyone able to clear this issue up? It's perfectly legal (loads of Scottish clubs still have terracing), but it's not allowed under the SPL's own rules. Still, I don't see why we couldn't have terracing there for use in non-SPL games (there could even be a seated area that can be converted into terracing, as is used in some German grounds). I'd hope that, if a smaller stand is built, the front row would be fairly high up rather than at pitch level (as with at the away end at Hamilton, for example), so that the view from that side of the stadium isn't ruined. Personally I'm still against knocking the stand down, but would probably be swayed if Saints were to do something innovative with the space (and I also agree with Jamie that I reckon this is the first step in a long-term plan to move to somewhere else entirely). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulfulsaint Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I wouldn't be entirely against it if there was another, smaller, stand build in the same space, especially if they found a way to maintain the same kind of roofline as is currently there. That way the appearance of the stadium doesn't change massively and we get a big influx of money over a period of many, many years as compensation. If it was just going to be a big empty space that would be pretty chronic though. My view entirely Jamie. I'd hate to be like Hamilton - looking at a non-existent end with a Sainbury's store is soul-destroying. 'We've got one, we've got two we've got one less stand than you' - doesn't excite me as a song either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve McQueen Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 A small convertible stand that can be turned to terracing when in div 1 would be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 If it's to Saints benefit long term,i'm all for it,as others have said another smaller stand would be my choice,as i don't think we'll get that end if there's terracing anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Neutral Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 The terracing issue was covered in another thread. There is an agreement between the SFA/SPL that terracing will not be allowed for top tier foot in Scotland. If clubs were to try and introduce them then holyrood would move to bring in similar legislation as in England. One of the regular posstera on here pit up a copy of the reply they got from holyrood on this subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancientsaint Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Good plan Geoff - hopefully our application to join the EPL will succeed where the OF has been rejected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSam1884 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I voted no, but I am more of the opinion that if it's replaced with a smaller stand then I'd be happy. If it was going to be left as a gap or anything other than a stand then I wouldn't be so happy. At the end of the day though, it's got nothing to do with me and my opinion doesn't really matter. It's obviously going to happen anyway. The plans for the road and housing will have more of an effect on people than what happens with the stand at McDiarmid Park so I am probably more interested in finding out more about that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave H Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 is this the start of the butcher. Can not help but feel there are hidden motives here. Stadium is out of date, removing one stand is a joke. How sterile do we want to make football? Please do not strip the club before you retire! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 The terracing issue was covered in another thread. There is an agreement between the SFA/SPL that terracing will not be allowed for top tier foot in Scotland. If clubs were to try and introduce them then holyrood would move to bring in similar legislation as in England. One of the regular posstera on here pit up a copy of the reply they got from holyrood on this subject. This is presently under review. celtic have asked for a discussion to take place as they would like to introduce a standing area in Parkhead, They are stating that it woul provide an area at reduced cost for some fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Could build a small stand with a bar for away supporters. My one concern would be ST holders getting relocated as I imagine the OF might get the East Stand if numbers suffice Is it really a big problem. For 4 games a season we could have the main stand filled with Saints fans, more money for the club and in turn that will allow us to minimise any increase in season ticket prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wish i was Joe McGurn Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Would like to see the plans for this or an artists impression of what it would look like first before making up my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wish i was Joe McGurn Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Is it really a big problem. For 4 games a season we could have the main stand filled with Saints fans, more money for the club and in turn that will allow us to minimise any increase in season ticket prices. Would say it is a big problem. Look what happened the last time. We lost supporters due to moving us back and forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1962 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Is it really a big problem. For 4 games a season we could have the main stand filled with Saints fans, more money for the club and in turn that will allow us to minimise any increase in season ticket prices. Why dont the Main Stand move? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Why dont the Main Stand move? I can only think that they would not due to hospitality directors etc. Personally I would not have any proiblem. I was in the East stand when we moved before and could not understand the carry on from some folk. You are getting a better seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wish i was Joe McGurn Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Put the directors box behind the goal with the hospitality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint D Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Why dont the Main Stand move? I think this issue is pretty minor in the scheme of things. Plus we can't even fill the east these days so we can't really moan if we get moved now if the club can make more money from the way they allocate the seating at OF games. It was different back when we got more home fans. Anyway I'd support what the club are doing if the money helps safeguard the club's future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wish i was Joe McGurn Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I can only think that they would not due to hospitality directors etc. Personally I would not have any proiblem. I was in the East stand when we moved before and could not understand the carry on from some folk. You are getting a better seat. Problem was away fans were still in our end and when complaints were made, the complainers were ejected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint D Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Problem was away fans were still in our end and when complaints were made, the complainers were ejected. Maybe it was the way you went about complaining that got you flung out! I remember moaning about the scum sitting round us but never got flung out. Neither did they mind you. Wouldn't be an issue now with less OF fans coming to away games so no need for sitting in our end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wish i was Joe McGurn Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Maybe it was the way you went about complaining that got you flung out! I remember moaning about the scum sitting round us but never got flung out. Neither did they mind you. Wouldn't be an issue now with less OF fans coming to away games so no need for sitting in our end. Wasn't me who was put out. I know of three who were. Did say on the ticket that fans in the wrong areas would be ejected. But rules are obviously there to be broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint D Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Wasn't me who was put out. I know of three who were. Did say on the ticket that fans in the wrong areas would be ejected. But rules are obviously there to be broken. Yeah and the OF fans seem to get away with whatever they want. That's one thing that's not changed. On the terracing thing, maybe we could make it really retro. Uneven terracing with shoogly barriers and the bogs could be the old pish up against the wall style! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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