Sergei Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 SPFL Premiership Fouls per Card (No. of fouls/Crime Count) 21/22 As at 03/12/21 Celtic 11.5 Rangers 6.9 Hearts 6.6 Aberdeen 5.8 St.Mirren 5.8 Livingston 5.5 Ross County 5.2 Motherwell 5.2 Dundee Utd 5.1 Hibs 5.1 Dundee 4.9 St.Johnstone 4.3 This is on today's twitter from the guy that runs Pie and Bovril. He's into stats and no reason to come out with stuff like this unless genuine. No surprise to see who the top two are and it just backs up what we hear every game. Refs are very quick to book Saints players while letting the opposition off with numerous fouls before finally taking action, if any. Looks like some fans aren't paranoid or deluded after all! Abernethy Saint, Born2Bru, MySpazz and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 Are all fouls equal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broggy Man Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 14 hours ago, RandomGuy said: Are all fouls equal? No but it’s an indication and spread over a long period it does show a pattern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 14 hours ago, RandomGuy said: Are all fouls equal? No. Some are committed by Scott Brown. Sergei 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 22 minutes ago, Broggy Man said: No but it’s an indication and spread over a long period it does show a pattern Aye but we get a lot of bookings for dissent, which some companies don't class as "fouls". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MySpazz Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 22 hours ago, RandomGuy said: Are all fouls equal? Yes, unless they produce a card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chips Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 23 hours ago, rik2304 said: No. Most are committed by Scott Brown. Fixed that for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 On 12/3/2021 at 5:29 PM, Sergei said: No surprise to see who the top two are and it just backs up what we hear every game. Refs are very quick to book Saints players while letting the opposition off with numerous fouls before finally taking action, if any. Looks like some fans aren't paranoid or deluded after all! Sorry but I don't think this shows bias against us from referees. What I do think it shows is that our discipline is absolutely bloody shocking, and is something the manager desperately needs to get a grip of. There are certain players in our squad who are constantly mouthing off and picking up completely unnecessary bookings for dissent, and it really is not helping our cause at all. Linky and Stumpy1949 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 54 minutes ago, blueheaven said: Sorry but I don't think this shows bias against us from referees. What I do think it shows is that our discipline is absolutely bloody shocking, and is something the manager desperately needs to get a grip of. There are certain players in our squad who are constantly mouthing off and picking up completely unnecessary bookings for dissent, and it really is not helping our cause at all. Let one complain and another next time. Better still, leave the captain to have a word. Many of our yellows and reds were easily avoided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 1 hour ago, blueheaven said: Sorry but I don't think this shows bias against us from referees. What I do think it shows is that our discipline is absolutely bloody shocking, and is something the manager desperately needs to get a grip of. There are certain players in our squad who are constantly mouthing off and picking up completely unnecessary bookings for dissent, and it really is not helping our cause at all. Yeah but if the refs were not biased against us we would not need to dispute decisions. You constantly see Celtic,Rangers,Hibs & Hearts players surrounding the ref & nothing happens. I don't think Bryson was going to get booked for tackle on Porteus until they surrounded the ref. It happened all game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted December 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 9 hours ago, blueheaven said: Sorry but I don't think this shows bias against us from referees. What I do think it shows is that our discipline is absolutely bloody shocking, and is something the manager desperately needs to get a grip of. There are certain players in our squad who are constantly mouthing off and picking up completely unnecessary bookings for dissent, and it really is not helping our cause at all. I totally agree about the indiscipline and I've said for a while we've become a lot gobbier under Callum for whatever the reason. It's a bit ironic given much of our success last year was down to being disciplined in our structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 21 hours ago, Cagey said: Yeah but if the refs were not biased against us we would not need to dispute decisions. You constantly see Celtic,Rangers,Hibs & Hearts players surrounding the ref & nothing happens. I don't think Bryson was going to get booked for tackle on Porteus until they surrounded the ref. It happened all game. So our players should carry on flying off the handle about refereeing decisions that don't go their way, and picking up yet more bookings for dissent? I don't see what this is achieving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widge Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 45 minutes ago, blueheaven said: So our players should carry on flying off the handle about refereeing decisions that don't go their way, and picking up yet more bookings for dissent? I don't see what this is achieving. I don't disagree with this statement, you're right our players do need to be better at just walking away. However, I can 100% get the frustration this season, given the frankly ridiculous decisions that are being given against us. As fans we're screaming in disbelief at the things that go against us, lets face it this season we've been on the wrong end in the majority of games, but we don't get pulled up for it. It's only natural to have a gripe and a moan at the referee every now and again and I don't blame any of our players given the constant nature of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 On 12/6/2021 at 12:35 PM, blueheaven said: Sorry but I don't think this shows bias against us from referees. What I do think it shows is that our discipline is absolutely bloody shocking, and is something the manager desperately needs to get a grip of. There are certain players in our squad who are constantly mouthing off and picking up completely unnecessary bookings for dissent, and it really is not helping our cause at all. 100%. I said it at the time that the match against LASK was embarrassing for this reason. Discipline-wise, we looked like a bunch of part-timers. Need to get a grip on it, as it leads to problems elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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