sleepless Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 It was early eighties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 But no one has pin-pointed when the term Saintees emerged. After the '80s but when Totten era, Sturrock era? I need to know or I will die an unhappy death and you will all be to blame. I believe the word was used in an "offical" book during the early 90s, but I don't have it to hand so can't say for 100% certain. But if you look at the 'Who's Who of St Johnstone' that was released around 1992-ish, I'm sure it says "Saintees One and All" on the inside, on the first page. I remember this quite clearly because I had that page signed by the team when I was a kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulfulsaint Posted July 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 That's getting closer - 1992 is the official date unless it can be disproved by other posters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jags Ya Bas! Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 I like both. I don't mind anyone using either to refer to us. And yet you dug me up on P&B for asking the exact same question when I was researching material for a press release. I always thought the team was referred to as 'The Saints', but the fans were collectively known as 'Saintees'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 I don't really have a problem with either but I much prefer Saints. Don't think I've ever said Saintees apart from when singing some of our songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kaiser Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 Has always been saints for me. Saintees and the we are the dundee haters song make me cringe.(playground stuff). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injured saint Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 saints for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave H Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 Has always been saints for me. Saintees and the we are the dundee haters song make me cringe.(playground stuff). same thoughts as me. Saints it is, I have never talked about us as saintees to anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunblanemike Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 I've always associated Saintees with the people of the club rather than the actual club. In the same way that Arsenal fans are Gooners but the club is the Gunners. It always seemed to me saintees should refer to the fans not the club. Even then I don't like it! Are Dundee united gonna call themselves unitedees to differentiate themselves from all the other uniteds? I don't think so! Anyway, nice to provide some filler time subject for the souful one and his radio prog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 I had never heard the term Saintees until it was mentioned on an extinct (memory failure) Saints forum. When the old mailing list moved to a new server in 1996 or so, I named it 'Saintees' after offering the name for approval. I hadn't noticed it in the Who's Who but could swear I saw it quoted by Mr Cosgrove in a magazine article, FourFourTwo or such like. Anyhow, I definitely heard people referring to 'Sainties' or such like, at games long before that; mostly older folk and especially women, in the 1980s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigCheese Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 I don't mind saintees at all but I associate it more with the fans than the team though; if I'm talking about someone who's a Saints fan I often refer to them as "a Saintee" but I never really think of the players as Saintees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yangus Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 I've always associated Saintees with the people of the club rather than the actual club. In the same way that Arsenal fans are Gooners but the club is the Gunners. good point sums it up perfect close thread nnw please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
california_saintee Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 Definitely "Saintees". Because "Saint" and "Saints" weren't available at the California DMV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarvie Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 Definitely "Saintees". Because "Saint" and "Saints" weren't available at the California DMV. He He just what I was thinking for the Alberta Licence, both Saints and Saint were already used so I have to decide between Saintee and PSJ1884. Pretty cool that it only costs $200 for you personal number plate compared with $$$$$$ in the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sign dave Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 in september, players should atend schools and hand about 500 season tickets out, although they wont need to pay, their parents will, that would be a good invesment i think! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burghsaintee Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 in september, players should atend schools and hand about 500 season tickets out, although they wont need to pay, their parents will, that would be a good invesment i think! I'm confused. Is this meant to be on this thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulfulsaint Posted July 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 When the old mailing list moved to a new server in 1996 or so, I named it 'Saintees' after offering the name for approval. I hadn't noticed it in the Who's Who but could swear I saw it quoted by Mr Cosgrove in a magazine article, FourFourTwo or such like. Anyhow, I definitely heard people referring to 'Sainties' or such like, at games long before that; mostly older folk and especially women, in the 1980s. Yes I also remember much older women saying it to. Most of my girlfriends. You are right D. It was used as a term endearment by older women, most of whom never went to games, but still have a soft spot for Saints. One of the things that the song writers of the 70s - mostly the Academy Saints Bus - claimed was that Saints fans could sing any terracing song because there was a name that fitted every beat of a football song: Saints, Perth Saints, SJFC, St Johnstone and best of all "Perth St Johnstone are the Champions. They're the best team in the land. Henry Hall is the General and The Leader of the Band. I suspect it was through songs that the term 'Saintees' really caught on too. "We Love You Saintees ...Oh saintees We Love You. The song doesn't scan as Saints so did it take off to suit the song? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancientsaint Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 ive always preferred the Saints part particularly when prefixed by Perth....for after all thats what we are Perth Saints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noose76 Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 Savo is a Saintee, hates the ****ing Dundee na na na na hay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 If this was a poll I think the 'Saints' would have the vote. Never mind, all of us old codgers'll soon be deid and the newfangled 'Saintees', childish, girlie chant will never be questioned again. (Sorry, my apologies to the Lark ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 in september, players should atend schools and hand about 500 season tickets out, although they wont need to pay, their parents will, that would be a good invesment i think! Lost me!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingaporeSaint Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Saints suited the type of support we had in the 60's 70's and 80's. The sort of people we attract to McDiarmid nowadays...Saintees is more apt ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indicator Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 I blame 'The Bay City Rollers'. Ever since them ye had tae be able to sing (apore) to be a 'true supporter' (Allegedly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingaporeSaint Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 I blame 'The Bay City Rollers'. Ever since them ye had tae be able to sing (apore) to be a 'true supporter' (Allegedly) Is this an attempt at a funny joke...I'm trying to get it but the more I read it ..hmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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